No painkillers, no screaming, no baby...just Tom Cruise.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

March 3, 2006
Tom Cruise Has a Birthing Plan

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/2006/03/tom-cruise-has-birthing-plan.html

Rumors of a pending split between Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes are now being fueled by Tom's insistance that the baby should be delivered according to Scientology doctrine. Katie's friends are concerned that she has been having a tough time dealing with the proposed birthing plans which include no painkillers and no screaming and separating the baby from Katie for a couple days immediately after the birth.

In Scientology, mother and child are separated for days after birth to reduce trauma and provide time to recover, says a source. The mother is discouraged from holding or cuddling the child. "The baby should not be bathed or chilled but should be wrapped somewhat tightly in a warm blanket, very soft, and then left alone for a day or so," Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote in a Dec. 20, 1958, bulletin titled "Processing a New Mother."

[Bunny]

1. Woe be unto the person who got between me and my epidurals.

Can Tom Cruise become a bigger nutsack? Is it even possible?

[Darth_Kitten]

16. I love your bunny....

cutie. :D

[Bunny]

18. Thanks!

It cracks me up!

[Darth_Kitten]

22. cute little behind...heh heh....

Bun must have had a long day!

[grace0418]

23. Could that picture be any cuter? I really don't think so.

I want to give that bunny a big hug!

[Bunny]

24. Me too!

:)

[gollygee]

2. Separating her from the baby?

Scientologists don't believe in breastfeeding?

I wonder what that does to PPD. Part of what supposedly helps moms with PPD is being close to the baby because you release more prolactin - a calming hormone. It's also released when breastfeeding, which obviously isn't going to happen. And during sex, but I'm guessing there hasn't been a whole lot of that in that relationship.

[Beaverhausen]

4. I know a few scientologists

and I believe they did breastfeed their kids.

I think there is a lot of misinformation going around here.

[LostinVA]

10. The OP's info is correct re: birthing and Scientology

Whether or not everybody follows it is one thing. However, Hubbard wrote quite a bit about this.

[Beaverhausen]

15. It came from Star Magazine

Not sure I'd believe everything they print.

I choose to go with what I know to be true.

[LostinVA]

31. I believe the Star and the NT over almost every other paper in the US

They may get the info via sleazy methods, but they tend to me right -- and have way more rigorous fact checking than ANY other media outlet in America.

Also, I've been reading this for months about the birth, with their PR person even saying it. Katie needs to escape Tom!

[LostinVA]

32. But Beaverhausen, this IS what Hubbard taught

That's not a slam against SCientology, just the truth. It's like saying that the Catholic Church doesn't preach against birth control just because most American Catholics don't adhere to that practice. It's the same thing.

[xmas74]

29. I've heard this in the past.

Hubbard did encourage behavior like this but most Scientologists do not follow it.

I'm pretty accepting of most religions but don't care for Scientology. I've read Hubbard-he was a third rate hack at sci-fi and realized that the money was really in religion.

[LostinVA]

33. Yup, basically a cross between a bet and a tax shelter

[xmas74]

34. He ruined the good name of Sci-Fi.

What a hack. He even made comments about religion being more profitable than writing!

[Ava]

3. i thought tom cruise was gay

???

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

17. If you think being gay has kept dudes from fathering children, think again

[Ava]

25. i didn't say that.

i just wonder if they will go thru with the marraige, i know that he married kidman, but they had a contract.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

30. A gay man would be

more sensitive to a woman and her plight. He is too loony to be gay.

[LaurenG]

5. What the ???

Fat chance I'd say OK to that deal. Too scary.:scared:

[caty]

6. First of all---

you couldn't stop me from screaming during childbirth. Fat chance Tom!!
Second--if I didn't get pain killers, I would want Tom standing right there where I could grab his kahunas every time I had a contraction. He'd beg me to get pain relief.
Thirdly--it's important to see your child after birth to bond with him/her and visa versa.

Tom can decide about childbirth when HE delivers a baby!!!

[DS1]

7. She should agree to not scream for as long as he can hold a bowling

ball up his ass.

[blondeatlast]

9. I'd prefer it go into his mouth, actually.

While the ass has a certain poetic justice, we'd still be able to hear him--and he'd be quoted.

[Capn Sunshine]

14. from what I hear

That could be quite a long time.

[edbermac]

8. More tabloid bullshit...WHO CARES???

[LostinVA]

11. It's the Lounge -- this is perfect Lounge material

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. Maybe Tom should be the one to give birth and then he could

dictate the terms of delivery and the aftermath. What a creep he has turned out to be.

[otohara]

13. Free Katy

Gawd I hope this isn't true. But he has taken this young girl and thrown her into Scientology - I hope she survives Tom Cruise

[blondeatlast]

35. Someone savvier than me should register that domain name. nt

[TallahasseeGrannie]

19. My blood pressure just rose 100 points

Separate the mother and child? No screaming? PROCESSING A NEW MOTHER?

I WANT TO SEE THESE GUYS GO DOWN!

This infuriates me. Tom Cruise is a schmuck.

[Radical Activist]

20. The baby then spends the rest of its life feeling unloved,

jumping from relationship to co-dependent relationship, hating its parents before going "Cheney" on someone.

[Sequoia]

21. Ron Hubbard was a bastard MF'er. Katie....RUN!

I would never, ever....what does he know about babies. Tom is such an idiot with no soul. Creep. Scientolgy is a FAKE religion. Ron's own son committed suicide.

[Dulcinea]

26. Only someone who can't & never will give birth would come up with that.

No drugs? No screaming? Separation of mother & baby? WTF?

Believe me, without drugs, there will be screaming! With my second baby, labor progressed too quickly for an epidural, so I pushed her out without chemical help. Yes, I screamed. A lot. If you were passing a bowling ball, wouldn't you scream?

Poor baby. I feel sorry for him/her already.

What an asswipe Tom Cruise must be. Why can't he just admit he's gay? Everyone can see it but him.

[Ava]

27. free katie and baby

[Debbi801]

28. That is so horrible.....

This part that you copied: In Scientology, mother and child are separated for days after birth to reduce trauma and provide time to recover, says a source. The mother is discouraged from holding or cuddling the child. "The baby should not be bathed or chilled but should be wrapped somewhat tightly in a warm blanket, very soft, and then left alone for a day or so," Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote in a Dec. 20, 1958, bulletin titled "Processing a New Mother."

makes me want to cry. What a way to get the mother/child relationship off to a terrible start.

[Ilsa]

36. I guess that momma won't be breastfeeding since the baby isn't

allowed to help bring in th emilk supply. Why was hubbard such a mysogynist anyway? And why would someone take the word of one screwed up guy over millions of mothers and millenia of anthropological information on this subject?