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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:50 PM
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The #1 "Christian" porn site
www.xxxchurch.com
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:54 PM
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1. ANd here I was expecting to see a link to the swimsuit specials!!!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:55 PM
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3. Try swimming a few laps in that stuff...
:evilgrin:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #3
16. Well....
won't win any gold medals in the Olympics wearing those :rofl:
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:10 PM
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13. Well, it a tad better than a burqua
Personally, I find it refreshing that parents would actually want to cover up their preteens girls instead what I see on the beaches in Florida.

Some young, I mean, 12 to 16 year old girls are basically wearing less material than a hankie in your pocket.

I'm no prude, but what some maturing teenage girls wearing on the beach is pretty shocking.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:17 PM
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14. Where are the horizontal stripe burlap sack suits????
I was so hoping for a matching full-body swimsuit to go along with my parasol and granny boots.

JB
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:40 PM
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21. I think someone's missing the concept of "slimming"
This is the Slimming Swimmer: http://www.wholesomewear.com/slimmer-c.html

The garment looks like you're wearing...fill in the name of your favorite bag here.

Nothing slimming about the Slimming Swimmer.
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philarq Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:54 PM
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2. So much flash on that site, I cant figure out if its pro or con
Whoever wrote the site may have sworn off porn for flash and crack it looks like---hehe
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:55 PM
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4. I thought for sure you were linking to the Freepers
They love to post cheesecake pictures, and grunt over them.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:55 PM
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5. There's help there for masturbation issues, same sex issues, etc.
Nothing about real world issues however.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:41 PM
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22. Oh of course
Nothing Jesus actually talked about. He never talked about gay people either way.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:33 AM
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28. I like the line about how "you may believe -wrongly- that if you think
about fruit when you're masturbating, it's not a sin"

http://www.xxxchurch.com/pornpatrol/kittens.asp

Hmmm. Fruit? No, I think that if you're thinking about fruit when you're masturbating, you're some kind of fruit-fucker.

"Ohhhhhhh. Mangos... Apples.. Peaches.. Peaches!! Grapefruit, big round grapefruit.. Tan-Tan- TANGELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSS!!!!"

Oh, I feel so dirty.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:07 PM
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32. Oh no. The problem. The problem, Pansy! It's started again!
Vincent: Oh no. The problem. The problem, Pansy! It's started again!
Pansy: Oh! Oh, don't worry, darling!
Vincent: Ohhh... ohhh...
Pansy: I say!
Vincent: I must have fruit!

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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:09 PM
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50. I need no help
on masturbation or same sex issues - I'm a freakin' expert on both!


I did once come across a site for Southern Baptist Erotic Spanking Enthusiasts. Seriously! Freaked me out big time. (The internet is a wild and strange world!)


Khash.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:55 PM
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6. http://jesuslovesporn.com/
This is my most tasteless post on DU ever. it took me five years to post a porn site....I am so ashamed.

;)

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:41 PM
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23. Only five years?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:09 PM
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38. almost....here's the site
http://jesuslovesporn.net/

were you just kiddin/makin it up, or was this the place you wanted?

either way, you got me!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:11 PM
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40. not worth the click, btw, except for the opening cartoon
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:56 PM
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7. They are offering FREE ACCOUNTABILITY SOFTWARE!
Quick, order a case for the Bush Administration!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:25 PM
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18. LOL
that's great!
:rofl: :rofl:
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:57 PM
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8. According to the site:
"A porn film can be made for $20,000-$125,000 and can make up to $2 million in profit from retail sales."

Where do I sign up!? Talk about profit!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 09:58 PM
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9. I'd like to submit my resignation from the human race now...
What bunch of little ignorant, opinionated fucks.

I don't give two shits about the porn industry...they can sink or swim as the market dictates. What's offensive is a bunch of sheltered zealots trying to dictate what I, (and probably you) a much more worldy individual with my OWN opinions...based on actual experience...is "permitted" to do.

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:03 PM
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10. This Is A Site For Those Addicted To Porn Who Also Might
Be Christians

Nothing wrong with that

internet porn is a huge business and there are lots of people of faith who get caught up in porn and just like anyone else, can become addicted to porn, or sexual acting out activity of any kind.

Internet porn is so seemingly anonymous, you don't have to go to the bookstore, or anywhere, you can even find enough free stuff to feed your addiction without using your credit card.

I looked the site over, and while I may not agree with their approach completely, they are nothing more than a site that is trying to help people with sexual addictions, particularly to internet porn to stop.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:03 AM
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25. They've also got a group to encourage folks to stop masturbating.
How Nice.

Sure, if you think masturbation --or homosexuality-- are 'mental illnesses' that need to be 'cured'.

Well, shit- that's funny, that's kind of how I feel about the belief in giant, all-poweful, invisible sky-men who apparently have nothing better to worry about than what humans are doing with their genitalia.

I'm just as entitled to my opinion as these folks, right? You know, "Nothing wrong with that"
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:02 PM
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30. You Miss The Point That There Are Some Who Are
compulsively using masturbation and porn to the point of avoiding other relationships, self injury, and other consequences of that.

Nothing wrong with masturbation per se, and I don't think I saw anything on this site saying masturbation was wrong.

compulsive masturbation that is troubling to a person because they can't stop is a problem and these people (whether you agree with their approach or not) are simply trying to help those who are so afflicted. If that isn't you, then don't worry, you aren't being asked to do anything.


so, yes, there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:54 PM
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31. My problem
is that so many define "porn addiction" as

desiring access to adult materials but feeling gulity about it because of religious convictions.

or

wanting to access adult materials, but having to do so behing the back of a signifigant other that has objections to the material.

I think 90% of the time a so-called "addiction" to porn is more the story of relationship problem, of which porn may be a symptom, not a cause -- or someone who has a problem staying within their own religious conventions, rather than a compulsive use of adult materials.



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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 06:22 PM
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42. You Need To Read Up On Sexual Addiction Before You
start making your hypotheses known.


90% of the time it is a relationship problem?

Well I can tell you that if there is a relationship, then an addiction of any kind is going to have problems 100% of the time.

Some may start acting out due to relationship problems, but an addiction, (not a feeling of guilt after viewing porn) is something that takes a life of it's own.

It is very serious, and there are many variations of sexual addiction. Addiction to porn is one that has exploded with the increasing use of the internet. That doesn't mean that people that view porn and feel guilt are addicted. If they view porn and feel bad, then DON'T DO IT!

But if you view porn, feel bad about it, keep doing anyway, over and over, despite efforts to stop, etc.

Then you have an addiction. Porn is usually only part of a sexual addiction, but sometimes it is the only defining characteristic of a sexual addiction.

Religious convictions may bring someone's threshold for feeling bad up higher (aka their "bottom" of their acting out) but just feeling guilt about viewing porn does not an addiction make.

Please think about this more carefully as there are thousands if not millions of individuals who truly suffer from sexual addictions and don't need their problems minimized by someone who just doesn't understand their problem

:rant:
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:14 PM
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47. Funny that you know so much about a "mental disorder"
That doesn't even have a DSM IV diagnosis.

I have to tell you, if this "porn addiction" exists, then I haven't seen it. Yeah, I have some regular customers, most come in about every other week and take advantage of the 3 for $30.00 special. But how many people also watch that many hollywood videos on HBO, or rent at their local video store.

The few folks (and it's only a handfull) that comsumed more than 3 movies/week burn out on it and stop coming in, or only come in very infrequently now.

Is there even a magic number of hours/week that can tell you when someone is "addicted"? Whatever that number is, my guess is that you would find a bunch of people who are "addicted" to DU using that same criteria. Or "addicted" to shoping, video games, etc.

Lastly, using the "addiction" meme to cover all sorts of compulsive behavior only minimized the struggles of anyone who has had an actual substance abuse problem.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:04 PM
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48. No, There Is No DSM IV for sexual addiction
try paraphilias


I think that you don't know WTF you are talking about.

Try googling Patrick Carnes

Try googling Sex addicts anonymous

other than that

I'm very done with you

You are nothing but someone who it trying to argue with me about something that I am very confident of knowing what I need to know.

Have a day!
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:07 PM
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51. Wow, so using a vibrator or dildo
is a mental disorder.

What are paraphilias?

Paraphilias are sometimes referred to as sexual deviations or perversions. Paraphilias include fantasies, behaviors, or sexual urges focusing on unusual objects, activities, or situations. Paraphilias include:

* Sexual urges or sexual fantasies with non-human objects
* Sexual behaviors with non-human objects
* Sexual behaviors involving humiliation or suffering of oneself or another person
* Adult sexual behavior that involves children or nonconsenting adults


http://www.athealth.com/consumer/disorders/Paraphilias.html

Good thing I looked that up....

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:04 PM
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52. No, It Is Not JUST USING THEM!
It would be using something to the exclusion of all else, or only deriving satisfaction from them

What is your deal?

You don't believe that people get addicted to sexual behavior that is destructive?

You don't believe that people die from sexual addiction? (Try AIDS, angry spouses, suicide, etc)

You want to try to minimize a serious problem.

Do I think that this website is the be all end all answer? No, do I think it is the best way to help someone? I don't know, it depends on the person.

There are lots and lots of people who have addictive/compulsive sexual behaviors of a wide variety.

You should check out Patrick Carnes book "Out of the Shadows", it's a little dated now, but it is a good primer on sexual addiction.

Believe me Mongo, this is no laughing matter. I really take offense to your continued slams at my posts and quite frankly don't understand. I do believe that you don't understand though. And it isn't my job to make you understand.

So do what you want to do.

I have no problem with people doing whatever they want sexually as long as it doesn't harm others.

If it harms others, then it is a problem. If it harms themselves, then it is a problem as well.

But believe me, I am not one to stand in judgment of someone's sexual behavior.

So,

Peace?

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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:36 PM
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53. The problem is that "sexual addiction" is used
in order to further a moral agenda, way, way more than it is to describe any real problem in society.

Do you not think this site feels that *any* use of adult materials is too much? That masturbation is wrong?

They are pushing a moral agenda, not trying to help the few people that actually have a problem with compulsive behavior.



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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:40 PM
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54. Whatever Their Motivation I Don't Know
I do know however that sexual addiction is a very real problem in our society despite your naive notion that it isn't.

Forget about that site for a minute.

It is a problem Mongo, period.

Now back to the site. Whether you or I agree with it or not, they are offering people who have a problem with addiction to porn help.

What the hell is really wrong with someone trying to help?

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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:18 PM
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34. "enough free stuff to feed your addiction without using...
your credit card"

You mean Usenet? If it's FREE it's ME.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:05 PM
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49. I mean, you can find pics, and vids for free if you look
and usenet, all kinds of places for porn if you want it.

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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:05 PM
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11. Did anybody check out the accountability software??
How effing scary is THAT???!!!

:scared:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:08 PM
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12. u want porn try myspace .com those kids are rolling in it ;-) nt
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:21 PM
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15. Hey, do they help Catholics that like porn??
or are they just the type that think Catholics don't count as christians? Because I know there is a certain Supreme Court Justice who may be in need of their services... hehehehe :P
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:24 PM
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17. UTAH #1 PORN STATE
why?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:13 PM
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19. I thought it would be a Jeff Gannon website. nt
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. Now that made me laugh
Lol.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:39 PM
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20. I'm stuck on dialup and...
couldn't get to half the site to see if it's for real or not-- seems like a spoof, but I'm not sure.

Masturbation kills a kitten video, Porn Mobile, Ron Jeremy debate...

Just seems too wierd to be real.





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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #20
26. I think they're trying to be "hip"
But you know, like Bill O'reilly with the falafel- every time these chucklefucks try to "let it all hang out" it just ends up sounding so... wrong.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:25 AM
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27. "Missionary Positions" What a great title for a documentary!
Bill Day, an independent film maker and all around great guy, called us back in February of 2002 and asked if he could hang around us for a few days and shoot some video for a project he was working on. He joined us on our trip to Amsterdam, then to Pure Life Ministries in Kentucky, then to Erotica LA and then...a few days and a small video project turned into over 2 years and a full-length documentary on the ministry of XXXchurch.

The documentary has been completed and is entitled "Missionary Positions."

The documentary is currently slated to release in early 2006. It is available to churches as part of PornSunday. You can get more information at www.pornsunday.com

FILM FESTIVALS
"Missionary Positions" has made it's way into several film festivals. All these festivals are open to the public, please check their websites and come out and support this film.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:59 AM
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29. That's so sad.
I think it's really destructive to teach people that bodies are evil and that what's natural is wrong. It's called nihilism, and it makes these people miserable. They, in turn, envy our happiness and try to make us miserable because misery loves company.

:mad:

-Laelth
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:11 PM
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33. Oh God!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:27 PM
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35. That's not Christian porn. This is:
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 03:28 PM by Benfea
Not safe for work. Highly blasphemous.

http://www.divine-interventions.com/jackhammer.html
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #35
36. Wow. I bet that sort of thing would REALLY piss the Muslims off. nt
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:51 PM
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43. Nah.
Or, if they get offended, it would because Jesus is depicted on the cross. According to the Koran, Jesus was never crucified; God called him directly to heaven before his enemies could capture him.

Religion is so stupid.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. No, I meant if they did one with Muhammad.
I mean, look how nuts those cartoons drove 'em.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:17 PM
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45. *shrug* We don't need to look past our borders for angry religious nuts.
Come to think of it, our religious nuts demand that cartoons stop being distributed on a fairly regular basis. Anyone remember the nonsense Christians raised about Spongebob Squarepants?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:43 AM
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46. You'll get no argument from me, there. n/t
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:06 PM
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37. I want this
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:11 PM
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39. I am going to put that "Operation: Save the Kittens" graphic on my
TNR stuff. :eyes:

I don't begrudge anyone the right to try to control impulses they think are wrong.

That's all I can say.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:13 PM
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41. jesus loves strippers!
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:29 PM
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55. OMG all those poor little kittens, I must have slaughtered whole catteries
single handed :blush:
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