Are you people really squabbling over the Oscars? *Really?*

[WilliamPitt]

Wow.

Looks like a good time to stay out of GD for a few days and get some actual work done.

:shaking head:

[CatWoman]

1. ha!!!!

it's even worse in the Lounge!!!

[helderheid]

3. I can only imagine!! Wouldn't be a bad idea to move these convos over to

the lounge.

[havocmom]

10. Saw the flood of moved threads last night. Terrible invasion!

Perhaps we need to petition Skinner for a frivolous whining forum for Oscar shit?

[hfojvt]

57. Yeah we kinda needed a Lounge:Oscars forum

and a Lounge:everything else. Just for a couple days.

2. I used the ignore box several times - but can't keep up n/t

[OldLeftieLawyer]

4. Gee.....

March lockstep or be dissed?

Ha.

[redqueen]

5. No $#&@.

In GD?

:wtf:

[Just Me]

6. Some of it is kinda' entertaining to read.

I've avoided most of those threads, though.

[SmokingJacket]

7. A couple little threads, man!

And anyway, what do you mean, "you people"? Not me people.

[BOSSHOG]

8. Didn't see any of the movies

so have no dog in this fight and wouldn't fight one anyway relative to a movie. I'm still trying to get the Steelers to make their rings in the shape of Zebras in honor of their MVP's.

[TomInTib]

14. Hey, BOSSHOG, check this out!....

Man, they are all in on it. I think it may be a cult, you better look out who you're dissing.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/7744766/detail.html

[Catherine Vincent]

9. Tell me about it.

And folks were ribbing some of us for talking about Fitz and others being People's 50 Most Sexy Men!

[tatertop]

11. Are you really squabbling over squabbling over the Oscars?

Have at it!

[WilliamPitt]

12. NOTE: This started in GD

Guess they're cracking down on the eight million Oscars threads in there.

Good.

[Bridget Burke]

13. E's Fashion Police will cover Oscar fashions tonight....

I'll be sure to watch, although fewer wince-inducing outfits were visible this year than in past years.

I want my frivolity to be Frivolous!

[helderheid]

15. my favorite outfit:

[argyl]

16. Superbowl's been picked to death,NCAA basketball's next.It's the Oscars

for now. I guess these are the dog days.

[ghostsofgiants]

17. I couldn't care less about the Oscars.

It's the hip-hop debate that has my attention.

[Kajsa]

18. I see,

it's OK to discuss books ( maybe)
but movies- no way, trivial stuff,waste of time.
This includes 'Syriana' and "Good Night and Good Luck'?
Do you even know what these movies are about?
Check it out.


Wow, exactly who's unwritten rules are these?
This reminds me of the mean spirited posts
on the seal slaughter node.

Yep, march lockstep or be dissed!!

(shaking head, also.)

[helderheid]

19. welcome to DU - this thread started in GD

[Kajsa]

21. Thank you for the welcome.

I'm learning my way around the site.
GD is General Discussion?
The Lounge is for ?
( I really don't know)
Thanks.

[helderheid]

23. You got it - lounge is for conversations like the oscar debates. :)

[Kajsa]

27. Thanks

now I know. ;-)

[Call Me Wesley]

20. It looks so worse in the lounge

because of all the threads moved there from GD.

But anyway. Oscars what? Oh, movies. Yes, I buy DVDs.

[ContraBass Black]

22. You're actually better off in GD than in the Lounge right now.

And that's saying something.

[dback]

24. I 've NEVER personally attacked anyone on this site, but Will...

...you are obviously not gay.

You clearly have little or no understanding of what "Brokeback" meant to many, many, many gay people, and what it means when a film that has won 15+ Best Picture awards worldwide loses a Best Picture Oscar.

You clearly haven't had to listen to people for weeks or months sniggering, snarling, about "that damn fag cowboy movie." Those people who are voting on our rights, writing our laws, rearing kids in local churches that will think like they do.

America is a country whose art, for good or ill, expresses a tremendous amount about it. What we create, what we reward, what we respect as "award-worthy" says something.

You don't know what it's like to read these bulletin boards nationwide today, and realize that people aren't just slamming or attacking a movie: they're attacking you. Everything you love, everything that is you. The cruelty, the nastiness, is straight out of Freeperville.

You don't know the pain and sickness in the stomach that I and many others are feeling right now--pain and frustration almost comparable to the 2004 election.

I know you to be a good, kind, decent, well-intentioned man, so I can only assume this is a moment of temporary blindness or obliviousness on your part.

But for a hell of a lot of people, this is another paving stone on the road to America As Hell.

[QC]

29. Great post!

No one could have said it better.

[Beaverhausen]

30. Excellent post!!!

And really, if people aren't into movies and/or the Oscars, why don't they just stay out of the Oscar threads?

[ronnykmarshall]

34. Right on!

and yes I was pissed last night.

[Beaverhausen]

37. I know

Did you watch the Indie Spirit Awards? Brokeback was the winner on that show!

http://www.filmindependent.org/

[ronnykmarshall]

38. I missed it.

I did read the BBM won.

[ronnykmarshall]

35. You said it all.

I could not have expressed my feelings better.

[Misunderestimator]

43. I don't really care who wins Oscars... but that was a damn fine post.

And now I'm pissed. :thumbsup:

Glad I wasn't online last night.

[ronnykmarshall]

48. Do a search on my post ....

It twarnt pretty. I was one pissed off princess. Still am.

And I gotta ask this. Why is it that Mr. Pitt makes this big deal about the Oscars, post one post and splits?

Hmmmmm?

[Telly Savalas]

46. I can't speak for Will...

but from what I've read, it looks like last night's decision only reaffirms the irrelevance of the Oscars. When I see a good movie, I know it's a good movie without needing some asshole from the "Academy" to validate my opinion. Give the damn thing to "Weekend at Bernies 3" for all I care.

[mwdem]

25. What were you doing in GD? and Where have you been?

:hi:

[JitterbugPerfume]

26. I have not seen the movies

and I really do not give a damn about self congratulating award shows. I just watched to see Jon Stewart ---which I did.

[redwitch]

28. I am discussing Mary Poppins in GD: Politics.

This is an interesting place, for certain.

[Blue_Tires]

31. i mean, honestly

people in the lounge DO know that the oscars are rigged, right?

that is all.

[Susang]

32. You mean like packing boxes and loading trucks?

That kind of actual work? :shrug:

That's what I'm taking a break from right now. Oscar talk is a welcome diversion from 11 hours of angry phone calls and physical labor from frustrated bikers. ;-)

[Orsino]

33. Run to GD for some peace and quiet. n/t

[blondeatlast]

39. Beat me to it. I swear there's more calm and thoughtful discussion

in there today--and I'm a GD vet!

[Orsino]

40. Anyone here who pooh-poohs GD...

...may now be silenced with a word: "Oscars."

[blondeatlast]

45. A-EFFING-MEN! lol!

:rofl:

Edit: my crappy typing.

[Skittles]

36. well, initially it was just offering opinions on the results

then it turned into some people taking offense to WHY the results were what they were (hey, I'm a movie buff who sees a movie weekly so I'm interested). I opined on who won but honestly, who can really say why the Academy picked what they did? Like someone else said, it's not like a foot race where there is an absolute winner.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

41. DENMOM!

Hey, where'd the OP go?

How dare you people get upset or passionate about art.

Although, you know, if film IS art.

How dare you get upset or passionate about books or music or film or anything
that's not on the approved list to get upset by.

By the way, where is that list?

[Dem2theMax]

42. You should have seen it last night. LMAO. This place went nuts.

And here I thought DU'ers were sane. ;)

(I didn't stay long. I couldn't roll my eyes that many times without getting dizzy.) :)

[xmas74]

44. My brother moderates a movie board w/ a large

membership basis and lurks here. He said that DU was worse than his than arguments offered up by his movie geek fanboys today on his board.

That is just sad. We're better than that!

[grace0418]

47. I was super busy all day. Can someone give me a synopsis?

What was all the squabbling about? I thought the awards were pretty fun, especially my dear Jon Stewart. I was mildly surprised Crash won Best Picture but not disappointed. It was a great film. Honestly, the only two films I saw out of the Best Picture nominees were Crash and Brokeback Mountain and I thought they were both great. If I'm being completely objective I would have to say that Crash is the better film (IMHO) but I would've been thrilled if Brokeback won based on the subject. So either way was good. I would've even been happy if Good Night and Good Luck won based on the subject, but I knew it wouldn't.

All I can say is it sure beat seeing Titanic win. Gack.

[melissaf]

49. in brief:

People were/are upset that "Crash" won over "Brokeback Mountain." Some thought that the decision was a reflection of the Academy's underlying homophobia; others thought "Crash" generally sucked as a movie and that "Brokeback" was robbed. Some people either defended "Crash" or dissed "Brokeback Mountain." Thus, the virtual slugfest commenced, and DUers proceeded to kick anyone who disagreed with them in the virtual teeth.

Also, some people thought Hoffman winning for "Capote" was another sign of Hollywood's underlying homophobia, in that his portrayal of Capote is de-sexualized to the point where he's non-threatening. Thus, the Academy couldn't bring themselves to give the award to Heath Ledger, because "Brokeback Mountain" dealt more directly with homosexual love/desire.

I might be missing some other facet of the discussion. But that's what I saw in a nutshell.

(And, in the interests of full disclosure, I was one of the people who badmouthed "Brokeback Mountain." So flame away if you feel the need. :) )

[grace0418]

50. Thanks for the update.

That sounds a bit over the top but these things happen I suppose. Like I said before, I would've been happy if Brokeback won, but in all honesty I think Crash was a better film.

To each his/her own I guess.

Thanks again. :hi:

[melissaf]

51. you're welcome!

I feel pretty much the same way. "Brokeback Mountain" was not my fave, but I would have been fine had it won. And I was _very_ happy that Ang Lee won for Best Director. He's deserved an Oscar for quite some time now. Plus, he directed one of my all-time faves, "Sense and Sensibility."

[grace0418]

52. Agree, I was THRILLED for Ang Lee.

One of MY favorite films of all time is Eat, Drink, Man, Woman. Plus he's a fellow U of I alum!

I don't know what it is but there is something about him that makes me just want to hug him. Just looking at his face just makes me smile.

[arwalden]

53. I Didn't Think You Could Be More Full Of Yourself...

... apparently I was wrong.

[Beaverhausen]

56. LOL!!!

We disagree on lots of things but on this point, I'm with you.

[madrchsod]

54. it`s better than squabbling about the illinois 6th......

well the 6th is more important but sometimes the discussion are just as silly...i don`t think tammy smells funny....

[terrya]

55. The "hide threads" feature does work.

For future reference.

Just in case you ever come back here and check your thread....

[WilliamPitt]

58. I know

But this was one of those instances where all I'd have been doing is hiding threads. This article was originally in GD, but got tossed in here after the mods clamped down on the Oscarpalooza that was happening (which was an excellent decision).

I figured there'd be brawling in the Lounge over the Oscars; that's what the Lounge is here for, right? So this thread is out of place in here.

[BigMcLargehuge]

59. Locked

And in the category of Most Interesting Annual Flame Bait Forum Migration, the nominees are :

"I hate the Red Sox, those bums" by AnonymousYankeeFan (moved from LBN to GD to Lounge

"A funny thing happened on the way to the atheist church burndown solstice festival" by Flamey McFlame (moved from GD to R/T)

"Leprechauns is short hand for Drunk Sissies" by Tombstoned Freeper (Moved from GD to Lounge)

and

"Are you people really squabbling over the Oscars? *Really?*" By William Pitt (moved from GD to Lounge)



And the winner is!....

Big McLargehuge
DU Moderator