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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:15 PM
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Tonight's episode of "24" ************* SPOILER *************
Ok ... I'm giving everyone fair warning. I'm about to mention something that happens in tonight's episode. If you don't want to know, DON'T READ ANY FURTHER!


Consider yourself warned ... now scroll down. :-)










































I can't f*cking believe they killed Edgar!!! I'm so pissed!!! I liked him. I was hoping that he and Chloe would eventually hook up. :cry:





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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:18 PM
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1. I know. I started tearing up there for a minute.
Great episode though!!

Who cast Dick Cheney as the Vice President, wanting to declare martial law and stuff??
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:24 PM
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4. Me too.
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 10:24 PM by BattyDem
It was so sad when he and Chloe just stared into each other's eyes. :cry:

Why didn't they kill the damn hobbit?!? It was his fault the terrorist got in - he should have reported his stolen key card as soon as it happened! :grr:

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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:22 AM
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16. One of the writers has to be closet DUer - such a */Cheney dynamic
to the President/VP relationship!! Martha Logan sure ain't no Pickles, though - she's one of the noblest characters ever over all of the seasons of "24"! Walt Cummings made a good Scooter Libby, I must say...
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:55 PM
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30. VP - "Leland Palmer" from Twin Peaks
Really does have the Cheney dynamic down. Since Logan is a dead ringer for Richard Nixon, that's a scary combo there.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:22 PM
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2. The bigger "spoiler": YOUR GOVERNMENT CAN'T PROTECT YOU
The whole "24" paradigm has been turned upside-down.

I especially love the out-of-control, paranoid Nixonian president and his loose-cannon but straight arrow wife, about the only beacon of ethics and humanity in the Western White House.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:28 PM
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7. Gregory Itzin is really good as the President
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 10:29 PM by BattyDem
Sure, you want to kick his ass, but it's his terrific acting that makes it work. :-)

Connie_Corleone is right ... they finally brought in "Dick Cheney" to run things. I was wondering when that would happen. His first "suggestion" to the President is Martial Law. Gee, what a surprise. :eyes:

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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:14 AM
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15. Logan makes Bush look like FDR.
I despise that character. Very effective work by the actor. :evilgrin:
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:24 PM
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3. Chloe's gonna make someone pay
The last thing a terrorist scumbag needs: a computer geek with borderline Asperger's syndrome and a high-level security clearance.

Someone's gonna pay dearly for killing Chloe's pal.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:26 PM
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6. lol. and yes!
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:28 PM
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8. ROFL!
:rofl:

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:25 PM
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5. OMG!
I am crushed.











Seriously, I don't really care. I never watched this show ever. :P
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:46 PM
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51. Shit, I said that at the beginning of the season....
I wanted to hang out with my husband that night, feeling very clingy, and I watched the season opener. That's all it took. I'm now hooked.
Duckie
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:29 PM
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9. I'm glad Edgar's out of the way
now I can have Chloe.
:loveya:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:11 AM
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10. The teaser for next week's episode
almost sounds like they're going to kill another character...They've been knockin out characters left and right this season. It's pretty wild. Last season I couldn't stand Edgar but he was kinda starting to grow on me.

Anyone notice the plots are really reflecting neocon policies? First they have a character that tries to start a war to invade the middle east to secure oil fiels (MIHOP if you're a believer), and now this whole martial law thing. Of course, they always have the defense contractors selling stuff to the terrorists...



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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:24 AM
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17. I'm thinking that Kim's boyfriend will be killed next week.
Chase left her after her father supposedly dies, then she gets her father back but now the new guy in her life will die tragically trying to save her and everyone else. Guess we'll just have to wait and see though because you never know with this show... except for Jack. They can't kill off Jack or they wouldn't have a show.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:15 PM
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28. I know ... I caught that, too.
It BETTER NOT be Chloe! :grr:

With any luck at all, it'll be Kim. She's only been back for one episode and she's already annoying. :evilgrin:

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:36 AM
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11. That totally threw me for a loop.
I remember saying "oh, no" right when Audrey said the same thing.

The silent clock at the end was a fitting (and haunting) touch.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:09 PM
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36. Yeah, I agree about the silent clock. I'd noticed that, too.
:cry: it was sad, and haunting, indeed.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:36 AM
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12. I had heard that they were going to kill off a major character
Can't remember whether it was in the promos or elsewhere, but I had heard that a longtime member of the cast was going to see his/her final episode tonight. When Edgar went to find the cute brunnette he had unwittingly sent to her death, I had a feeling it was going to be him. It's like a teen horror movie where the kids having sex are always the first to get it. Edgar had to pay for his "error."

According to the previews, someone is going to make the "ultimate sacrifice" next week. I'm assuming that this will be the hobbit and that he will somehow redeem himself partially, if that is even possible at this point. Remember, he did save Jack at the airport when he was the only one to recognize Bauer's duress code.

Next week should be interesting with Tony and the mad scientist sealed in the same room. Is there even anyone else in there with them? If not, I'm guessing Tony makes quick work of the mad scientist avenging Michelle's murder but "destroying their only lead!" Oh no!!!!!

Boy does CTU security suck or what? They just let an unknown wander in off the street because his face matches the picture on his access card? And he's carrying a two foot long thermos. What's that supposed to be, his lunch? No biometrics (palm, retina), no searching, no questions, no nothing.

I is hard sometimes to suspend enough disbelief to enjoy this show, so I approach it like a James Bond movie or a comic book.

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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:02 PM
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22. I agree with you on how to approach it
Though I kind of look at it as a soap opera, albeit a soap opera with a lot of action. It's funny - when I re-watch former seasons on DVD, it seems so much lamer than when I'm watching it for the first time on TV with commercials.
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:56 AM
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13. I can't believe they killed him too
He was one of my favorite characters. I am so pissed :mad:
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:48 PM
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52. Ok, that's creepy.
A fat guy gettin' jiggy with it. :scared:
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:13 AM
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14. I hate 24 now!!!
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 10:15 AM by El Fuego
It's the morning after and I am stil upset about this. Why EDGAR??? :cry:

Edgar is the last person you think will get it because he never leaves his computer.

More on edit: But Edgar fucked up, and that's why he died. He wouldn't listen to the girl telling him there was unauthorized activity near the air vents. He sent her to check it out, which he shouldn't have. Realizing his mistake, he goes to look for her, which again, he shouldn't have. So now he's dead.

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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:06 AM
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18. Great episode(s) but yeah, LOTS of big holes in the story.
Like many have said, NICE security CTU. Okay, first of all, I still want to know how Lynn ever got back into the building without his keycard in the first place (after his sister's boyfriend mugged him). Does he have a spare or something? And, even if he did have a spare, wouldn't it have raised *some* kind of alarm if his keycard was used to come into the building TWICE without ever having left? Finally, wouldn't his security clearance be disabled or something upon being taken into custody? I would think, again, *some* kind of alarm would go off if a man supposedly in custody would be caught *entering* the building.

All that aside, why doesn't CTU have gas masks and other emergency provisions in every room, especially the rooms that can be sealed off during a disaster? I mean seriously, they've already been blown up once. They can pull up the complete schematics of every building in the United States within 5 seconds but they didn't have the forethought to have gas masks? They wouldn't have all kinds of precautionary systems in place considering what a dangerous, high security agency it is?

Still, even given all that, I totally love the show. In fact, part of the fun is picking all that stuff apart!

I'm totally bummed about Edgar. That SUCKS! And I loved all the shit straight from a conversation with Dick Cheney. They are really making up for that whole ACLU crap from last season.

I can't wait to see it play out next week. But, again, can't Curtis and a bunch of agents wearing those space suits come in and bring a box of space suits for those trapped inside? Is that too easy?
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:06 PM
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24. Bigger hole or maybe plot development
The terrorists must have set up the plan to steal the keycard.

Why?

How did they know Lynn would be there? If they were leaving the country with the gas why plan to take some to CTU?

All points to the VP of course. I mean he's the guy who killed Laura Palmer after all.

How do you get the suits to the people without kiling them? They will have to decontaminate somehow. Probably turn out the stuff goes inert after a certain time. Otherwise CTU will be useless for the rest of the season. Unless they have a backup control room.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:12 PM
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25. Lynns boyfriend was going to sell it to the terrorists for 20k
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 12:14 PM by LSK
And the gas only gets you from breathing I think, so why not just bring in some airtanks for them to breath from. But it looks like Jack is going to crawl through some shaft or something..

:popcorn:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:09 PM
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35. oops meant Lynns sisters boyfriend
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:58 PM
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31. Well, when Jack was in the mall, he took off his gas mask, held his
breath, and helped get that little girl out to safety. So why couldn't the CTU folks hold their breath for a few seconds in order to put on a mask?
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:12 PM
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39. LOL!! Thank you, good point.
the writer's gotta have their sacrificial lamb to make the show more interesting...

It's working, I'm totally hooked! hehehehe.
:hi:
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:20 PM
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29. I had to laugh when they found the canister in the hospital air vent
Curtis was the only guy NOT wearing a space suit (though he had a gas mask), yet he was the one who carried the canister all the way to the truck. By the way, don't they have some sort of portable, sealed container that they could have brought into the building with them? :wtf:

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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:15 PM
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42. And what about being able to shoot out the camera.
Wouldn't they be sealed behind something bullet-proof or tamper-proof?

I was wondering the same thing about Lynn... how did he get back in the building? If it was that easy for him to do and not be seen why haven't others broken in that way too?
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:09 AM
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19. Yep... that was a big surprise
I'm just wondering how long they're going to be stuck in that room.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:11 AM
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20. I don't think he is dead
I think that the gas had time to dissipate and he only passed out! They'll come in and revive him.

I hope. I liked him.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:54 AM
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21. This show is so much fun
You just don't what they will do. I'm still upset they killed Michele. They can't take Edgar too!:(
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:23 PM
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27. The gas was still going well into the clips of the next episode
if he survives it'll be a little silly, especially since it looks like one of them is going to have to "Spock" himself and make a run for something while holding his breath.

I say 'his' because you KNOW it's gonna be Kim's newest boyfriend. I hope it's Astin though, I did note that he's listed as a "Special Guest" still, so I'm suspecting they don't have him written into many more episodes ;-)
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:03 PM
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23. all I can say is if they can kill President Palmer in the 1st 5 min
Anyone is fair game. Except for Jack of course. I think Tony will ever get killed too.

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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:01 PM
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32. Jack isn't safe either. Kiefer Sutherland has said that
the series can go on without Jack so I think within the next couple of seasons he may be taken out.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:24 PM
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43. Well ... if Jack goes, I go!
It's bad enough that they kill off all the supporting characters, but if the LEAD CHARACTER is gone, I see no point in watching. The suspense is fun, but I need SOMEONE to care about!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:43 PM
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47. You're supposed to care about Jack's daughter. She always gets kidnapped.
Thus she's much more integral to the plot than Jack.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:56 PM
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54. Oh no ... she's only been back for an hour and she's already annoying me!
:puke:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:20 PM
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26. Last night's episode was pretty crazy.
My jaw was hanging down during the ending. Like this: :wow:
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:26 PM
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44. When Edgar didn't return to the main office ...
I kept hoping that they would leave us hanging until next week ... and then we'd find out that he was in another "safe room" or he got out of the building. I really didn't think they'd kill him. :cry:

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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:02 PM
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33. ITA about Lynn McGill
How DID he get back in? Did they even show him coming back into the building, after being attacked in the parking lot? (I can't remember that far back...)

And HOW was it that Chloe (and sometimes Edgar :cry:) can immediately locate a suspect on the feed from 12 security cameras at an airport, but it takes SEVERAL MINUTES to find the most recent usage of Lynn's keycard?

i.e., they should have pinpointed Russian-terrorist-guy in the ventilation room within seconds--he swiped the card to get into the room, remember? Instead, all they get is that he entered the building at the security checkpoint, and then they futz around figuring out where he might be. They should have immediately sent a security squad to that ventilation room, right after Lynn reported the keycard.

And another thing...

Did anyone else think that Lynn's breakdown was the weakest subplot ever on 24? Yeah, he got mugged, and lost his crucial keycard, but that incident pushed him over the edge? It just didn't ring true to me. Kinda sloppy writing for 24.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:07 PM
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34. I know, that kind of bummed me out, too. Jeez, whatta way to go, too.
:scared:

Ironically, I found myself thinking about the actor who plays Edgar. I wonder if he had any warning his character was about to be killed off?

I read once in an interview with the woman who plays Martha Logan that the actors basically have NO idea what's in store for their character until the last minute, which I thought was interesting.

Guess the guy who plays Edgar needs to find another job. :eyes: ....unless the writers can creatively through in a surprise twist of him somehow surviving the bio-chemical gas.

Hmmm...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:10 PM
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37. No different than any other job in the country
Sounds cold, but that's how it is. You can be competent, more competent than all the power-happy clowns around you, and you're still history because of a single screw-up
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:15 PM
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40. Yup, you're absolutely right.
Life isn't fair and life doesn't give guarantees.

Hard lessons, indeed.

:hi:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:10 PM
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38. actually the show is probably a big break for him
Ive seen lots of ex-24ers around lately.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:15 PM
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41. Onward and upward... n/t
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Dave Sund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:07 PM
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45. Sopranos fans may remember him
as "Skip," Pussy's FBI contact.
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NYdemocrat089 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:32 PM
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46. WHAT?!
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 03:32 PM by NYdemocrat089
The one night I miss 24 they do something important!!!

Do they reair these episodes?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:47 PM
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48. It was two episodes in a row last night
Can't answer your question tho, but I'll bet someone else here can easily enough
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NYdemocrat089 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:52 PM
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57. Thanks DS1.
:hi:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:58 PM
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49. If you have a good internet connection
try find it on torrents.

Otherwise you have to wait for DVD or syndication.
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NYdemocrat089 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:50 PM
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56. Gah...thanks. I'll just go to the website and read about the show.
At least I didn't like Edgar very much (not that I hated him). I did feel sorry for him last season.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:27 PM
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50. story on Yahoo about it
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:53 PM
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53. I heard that Edgar is going to survive!
Turns out it was nerd gas, not nerve gas.

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Quetzal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:54 PM
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55. Holy Christ!!!
I know it is only a TV show, but I shed a tear not just for Edgar, but all of those people that died in CTU. I just could not believe that there would be such a horrific attack on such a large amount of people.

Imagine that - when CTU was working at his highest capacity, they could protect Americans from nerve gas, but they couldn't even protect themselves.

I have no idea what is going to happen next - I don't even want to imagine it!!!
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