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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:55 PM
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Name SNL alums who you think are WAY overrated and underrated
I've never thought Dan Akroyd was all that talented. His best characters--Fred Garvin, Blues brother--are distinguished for their lack of presense.

Underrated I'd have to go with Joe Piscapo. Yes, he's a fat ego on steroids. But he carried the show and I'd still put his Sinatra up against Phil Hartman's (altho Piscopo did a younger Sinatra).
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:06 PM
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1. Overrated: Chevy Chase and Jimmy Fallon
Chevy Chase just isn't that funny. Plus he introduced a lot of the original cast (who were 10 years his junior) to harder drugs.

Jimmy Fallon has never been funny, and never will be. The only person that laughsat his jokes is himself. If he's in a sketch with the slightly funnier Horatio Sans, you can guarantee Fallon won't make it through without losing it at least once. Very unprofessional.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:10 PM
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2. Adam Sandler
Man, what a talentless hack. He's so unfunny it's painful.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:22 PM
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4. His movies are all so bad and the same
I don't know what people see in them? I mean I'd watch them if he had boobs akimbo in them, but otherwise they stink! :wtf:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:25 PM
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8. Rich beyond belief and he is responsible for all the junk SNL movies
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 04:25 PM by underpants
Check out his producer page on imdb.

Ladies Man
Joe Dirt
Deuce Bigalow
etc.

not necessarily from SNL skits but he basically has bankrolled his old buddies made for Saturday afternoon time filler movies...hey that's pretty cool plus everyone makes some money.

I agree he has no talent but he sure has made the most out of it.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001191/#producer
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:46 PM
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37. As far as his comedy goes, I'll agree..
But given the right material and director, and he's surprisingly good. (See: Punch-drunk Love)
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:57 PM
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42. You haven't seen Spanglish.......
He is wonderful in that movie....
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imperialismispasse Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:20 PM
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3. Underrated-Phil Hartman
He was the best.
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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:23 PM
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6. Phil was great
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:29 PM
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12. Yup, Man I Miss Him
Absolutely one of the best and most underrated.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:02 PM
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18. I don't think Hartman qualifies as underrated--he was *recognized* as best
I'm wondering about those who, like Maya Rudolph, do great work and never get press--or even get slammed.
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imperialismispasse Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:13 PM
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24. I disagree
Phil isn't mentioned among the best of the best - like Belushi Radnor Murphy. But in my opinion he was the best all-around comic with the most perfect timing they ever had on that show.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:09 PM
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21. agreed, and he isn't rated that low to begin with.
He was *that* good.

A case could be made for Kevin Nealon. He didn't stand out as much as many of his contemporaries, and his Weekend Update was weak, especially followin Dennis Miller. But good straight men are essential to good comedy, and he was one of the best, during some of SNL's best seasons.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:10 PM
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22. Favorite Nealon characters:
Mr. Short-Term Memory & Mr. No-Depth Perception. And add Victoria Jackson to the underrated list. When they actually deigned to use her in a skit, she was usually VERY good.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:46 PM
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38. Hartman was brilliant.
I miss him. :(
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:23 PM
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5. Underrated: Gilda Radner, Laraine Newman
Overrated: Will Ferrell
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:25 PM
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7. Overrated, Jim Belushi, Underrated, Phil Hartman
Jim Belushi has ridden his dead brother's coatails for years now, and his show is the most unfunny thing that I've ever seen. It's nothing more than recycled network sitcoms.


Simply put Phil Hartman was the best performer ever in the history of SNL. There wasn't a character that he could not play. He could be anyone. He was a brilliant mimic and he could develop characters on his own, like caveman lawyer.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:26 PM
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9. His sitcom was dead last last year
#64 or whatever of all network shows.

I read that in the Worldbook no link available.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:38 PM
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13. It's Still on The Air
That's why he's overrated.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:27 PM
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10. Under rated-Martin Short just because I loved Jimmy Glick


oh and FRANC!
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:57 PM
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16. This is my favorite Martin Short character:
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 05:09 PM by Shakespeare


Although, the mentally challenged olympic male syncrhonized swimmer is a VERY close second.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:04 PM
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19. That's okay
I'm not a STRONG swimmer
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:08 PM
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20. ....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

One of the best sketches EVER. Maybe even the best.

Allegedly, Christopher Guest's character in that sketch was the inspiration for his character in Waiting for Guffman.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:59 PM
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44. My fave Martin Short character? None other than Nathan Thurm!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:27 AM
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45. It's not me it's him....right?
It's not me.....it's not
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:39 AM
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47. I know that! You think I don't know that?
I think it's funny that you think I don't know that.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:28 PM
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11. Sorry, but his Nixon redeemed any other sub-par characters.
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 04:33 PM by Shakespeare
He had the paranoia down perfect. And his Julia Child was a wonder to behold, too.

edited to add: The only comedian to EVER do Nixon better than Aykroyd was this gentleman:



And if you haven't seen the movie, do. :-)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:13 PM
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23. "Dick" was a hilarious, and all too overlooked, movie.
And he did, indeed, make a great "Dick."

.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:51 PM
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40. dan hedaya was great in that movie
of course, I think he's great in general, but that was a great role and a great movie :)
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:47 PM
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14. Overrated: Norm Macdonald, Underrated: Rich Hall
Norm had the luck of good material on Weekend Update. You never saw him in the sketches because he admittedly sucked at them. Rich Hall was a great stand up with witty deadpan humor.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:48 PM
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15. Rich Hall is huge in England right now
he has had a couple of what look like very funny sitcoms on the BBC.

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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:23 PM
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28. They were both excellent
I don't know whether the most recent one has been recomissioned (although it only finished last month) but I hope they get an international airing.

Rich Hall's Fishing Show
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/r/richhallsfishingshow_999031109.shtml

Rich Hall's Cattle Drive
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/r/richhallscattledrive_999060111.shtml

He also did a pretty good special in 2004 about the US elections:

Rich Hall's Election Special
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/features/rich-hall-election.shtml
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:59 PM
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17. Gilda Radner was the best!
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:18 PM
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25. I feel that
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 05:18 PM by pointblank
Darrell Hammond is not nearly as recognized for his character work as he should be.

IMO the man's a genius in that respect.

Fallon, Sandler, Sanz ..... Hacks.

I think Fred Armisen is hilarious. I laugh just looking at him sometimes.

The king though, has to be Eddie Murphy. Just rent his best of SNL DVD and tell me that shit ain't hilarious. "Hot tub, OWWWWWW...Get in the water" :rofl:

ed for sp
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:20 PM
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26. Undererated:
Martin Short
Al Franken
Nora Dunn
Jan Hooks
Lorraine Newman
Jane Curtin
Terry Sweeny
Phil Hartman
Danitra Vance
Gilda Radner

Overrated:
John Belushi
Norm Macdonald
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:23 PM
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27. Chevy Chase
I've never, ever understood his appeal.
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SethInUpstateNY Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:56 PM
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29. Underrated: Nora Dunn.
Overrated: Dennis Miller. I never understood his appeal even before he whored himself to the Reich Wing.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:16 PM
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31. Also underrated: Jan Hooks. The Sweeney Sisters were great!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:48 PM
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33. Agreed on Hooks.
I always preferred the great ensemble players, like Phil Hartman (God rest his soul), and Jan Hooks, Nora Dunn, Jon Lovitz, Martin Short, and Jane Curtin.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:13 PM
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30. Underrated Dan Ackroyd & Jon Lovitz
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:19 PM
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32. The guy who does all the imitations is way underated.

He's so underated, I don't even know his name. He did Al Gore in the Palm Beach skit.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:43 AM
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48. Anyone who can do Trump AND Cheney convincingly
gets my vote. I can't even watch the real Trump anymore without thinking of Darryl Hammond's Trump. He's wonderful.

Same thing with Chris Matthews - if I hear Matthews on at the gym, I just think of Hammond screaming!
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 09:53 PM
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34. Overrated: Adam Sandler...
Just not funny!!!

Underrated: Tina Fey I think!
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:16 PM
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35. Most overrated ever: Dana Carvey.
1) What gave that grinning schmuck the idea that the Church Lady saying "SATAN" and Hanz & Franz saying "PUMP YOU UP" were going to be funny EVERY FUCKING WEEK?

2) His GHWB and his Ross Perot were the exact same imitation.

3) The only character of lasting merit he ever did that he didn't kill through ceaseless repetition was Garth Algar, and that was a dishrag supporting role in Mike Myers' bit.

Dude was more boring than Gary Kroeger.
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:44 PM
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36. my choices
Underrated from past: A. Whitney Brown
Tim Meadows

Overrated: John Belushi (how hard is it to play a subliterate schlub?)
Dennis Miller (he only has one kind of schtick, lifted from Richard Belzer)

Underrated from present: Finesse Mitchell

Overrated from present: Amy Poehler





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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:47 PM
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39. Underrated: Mya Rudolph
She's great in every skit she's in.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:55 PM
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41. i think janeane garofalo is underrated
though she naturally gets lots of love from progressives, I think she's a genuinely talented actor and comedian. I also think Julia Sweeney was underrated. (Her one-woman show "God Said: HA!" is really great.)

Overrated: norm mcdonald, dennis miller, chris kattan ...
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:59 PM
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43. oh yeah, and how could i forget david spade
he turned out to be pretty pointless without a sidekick ...
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:31 AM
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46. Charles Rocket
who I went to college with, had a hysterical band at school called the Fabulous Motels, very funny standup, and never really made it in bigtime showbiz.

His real name is Charles Claverie.

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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:44 AM
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49. I think Fred Armisen is underrated.
When he gets some good material, he's pretty damn funny. Unfortunately, most of the material any of the actors gets today is crap.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:05 AM
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50. Garrett Morris underrated. Eddie Murphy overrated.
Talented singer/writer and actor.

I never found Murphy funny. imho.
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