Funniest Fucking Thread I Have EVER Seen In GDP!

[matcom]

:rofl:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2507034

[NMDemDist2]

1. OMG!

dang, never poke skinner with a pencil yanno?


:rofl:

[LynzM]

2. LMAO

Erm, "hey god, bite me!"

"OK."

:rofl:

[matcom]

3. *sniff*

his final words and he misspelled "tombstone" :rofl:

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. He messed up 'You' also

:rofl:

[Deja Q]

138. Nobody's perfect...

:(

Still, there is an odd humor to be found here. :rofl:

[bridgit]

4. heehee, that is funny but...who the fuck was Walt Starr...

and why, for that matter, was Skinner so mean to the old drummer in The Beatles :cry: :rofl:

[henslee]

205. I like Walt's posts . I am bummed.

[LostinVA]

5. WTF??? Is this for real?

[LynzM]

6. Apparently

If you look at his other thread in GDP (locked now), you'll see that he 'fessed up to being an Independent, and apparently PM'd Skinner about it :eyes:

[salin]

35. having watched/read over time

its not quite like a 'fessed up' ala a freeper outing himself - but a manifestation of extreme frustration. Walt has often waivered between ABB vs wanting dems to be a real opposition party - am guessing this was more an expression of that same frustration (the old "the party left me") but I would also guess that in the end, as has been the case before - he wants repubs out more than anything and would work for that goal.

I just say this b/c it is misleading to think of this as an "outing" (ala when a freeper disruptor shows himself) but a symbol of how frustrated some folks are getting (not at DU perse but it manifests itself here) due to a feeling of powerlessness at stopping bushco and the GOP one-party rule system.

I suspect we will see many other long-timers hit that point and go over the line (as we have seen many times) as we run up to the next elections - and I will continue to have some empathy for them as I don't think it is that these folks want to see repubs win - I think it is an expression of fear that the repubs will win (ala that the current debate leading to whatever personal implosion will lead to repub win). In short it is an argument about strategy of ending this regime - rather than an enemy within thing. Our anger is so palpable that we have taken strategy debates to turning on each other.

That said - his post really didn't give Skinner any alternatives.

[barb162]

91. Uh is this real? Walt tried nailing Bush on his medals

(during the Vietnam war) in the last presidential campaign.

He did huge amounts of research if you ever saw his threads. Is Walt just playing around here?

[TallahasseeGrannie]

189. OOOOHHH

an independent? How moderate of him!!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Not at all surprised

Isn't he the one who posted a thread about wanting to be a libertarian last night?

That is a pretty funny way to be TSed. :eyes:

:rofl:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

8. Laugh all you want...

Walt Star has been here as long as I can remember and was a prolific poster with a lot to say -- it's always sad to see a longtime DU supporter tombstoned.

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. He had been posting some strange threads lately

Just sayin . . .

[LostinVA]

13. I agree -- but more like for a while

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. LOL I will admit

I got to the point that when I saw his name, I usually didn't read the thread.

[LostinVA]

18. I know.... *sigh*

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

179. I'll second that one.

He went WAY beyond sanity a long time ago.

[SaveElmer]

17. I know the feeling he had...

I went the same way after the 1988 election...got so fed up with losing I decided to become activist on several semi-fringe issues (animal rights...I even contributed to PETA), I refused to vote for anyone who did not live up to my new standards, wrote in candidates. Just all out of frustration. I realized before long what a waste of time that was as I was having no impact at all. I still care about those issues now, but realize basically checking out of the political process was not the way to go!

[no name no slogan]

49. That's EXACTLY what I did, too

I worked for Dukakis during the MN caucuses, and was really pissed off the way he carried himself after the nomination (which Kerry seemed to mirror in 2004, sadly enough). I dropped mainstream politics for awhile, with the exception of the 1990 Wellstone campaign, which I really believed in.

After 1992, I retired from party politics. Clinton really pissed me off, as did the 1994 elections. But after 2000, I got back in.

I can understand Walt's frustration, but I have to admit that is one of the funnier TSs I've seen in awhile. I imagine he'll pop up on that Deanocratic site eventually-- if he's not there already.

[havocmom]

140. Yep. There has been so much inconsistancy in his posts over time

that I was concerned someone had pilfered his log-on info and was posting as him. There have been a couple times I put him on ignor for a spell as he got sorta borderline abusive. Really bothered me cuz he usually was pretty decent and his research was greatly appreciated.

[Renew Deal]

165. He was a Carol Mosely Braun supporter the week after he was a Dean person

then he was a Clark person (IIRC) the week after. That was bizzare. He seemed to settle down after that. He was also responsible for teh Bush medal story.

[WilliamPitt]

195. Actually

He was ABB, then Dean, then Braun, then Green, then ABB, then Kerry, then Dean again, and then when Kerry lost he started with "I told you so," went to Green again, then Dem, then just...kinda everywhere.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

191. Perhaps he isn't well?

[matcom]

11. from what i can see he really (and literally) asked for it

[salin]

32. I find it sad

and indicative of how high anger and frustration has grown in the past four years that I have been here. Peoples' frustration spike and in a fit of political anger cross lines ... as we move towards primaries, general midterm elections - and then towards another presidential campaign - I am certain we will see more and more folks implode per their DU membership. I don't find it particularly funny. I get mocking the whole "Swan Song/Good bye" DU threads. This, however, is different. Agree or not with this or other posters who have gone this way, what strikes me as sad is bigger than DU - it is a relic of the deep fear and anger felt over the direction of this country and the powerlessness we have in doing much about it - and as a result more hyperbolic rhetoric gets fuelled and stoked and eventually self-defeats (in terms of going over the line leading to leaving DU.)

just my two cents.

[Hugin]

34. This is exactly what I was trying to get across in my post below...

Thanks for writing what I was thinking!

:thumbsup:

[Ladyhawk]

65. I do, too. I think all of us have our breaking point.

I've reached mine before and at that point, writing a "fuck-you-go-ahead-and-ban-me" post was the least of my worries. You don't necessarily know the whole story of why Mr. Starr imploded. Based on outward actions, he was asking for it (literally and figuratively), but a whole lot more could be going on.

Yeah, it's a funny thread, but it could mean something a lot more ominous. Having gone through some severe shit, I have a hard time laughing at someone else's misfortune--at least in this instance. I guess it reminds me too much of reaching that breaking point. I have no idea whether or not Walt Starr has reached a breaking point. Maybe I'm just projecting. :shrug:

[KoKo]

100. Well said Salin....both your posts.

Having been here a long time just as you have...seeing a long time poster flair up and ask for a tombstone is sad.

The frustrations are just so great sometimes it comes out as trashing on ones own family...

I imagine he will be reinstated after a "cooling off." If he wants it..but know he's been frustrated for a long time. I think the Alito vote was the last straw for many old timers on DU. I notice many names missing these days.

[Ladyhawk]

58. I agree. I enjoyed his posts and will miss him.

I may not have always agreed with him, but hell, I don't completely agree with anyone. :shrug: Independents and Greens post openly here. There are rules about not actively trying to undermine the Democratic Party, but progressive voices of all kinds are welcomed.

Still, the results of daring the owner of a website to tombstone you should be pretty obvious. I'm certainly not second-guessing Skinner. (Honest, Skinner. DON'T tombstone me, please. :) )

[barb162]

95. sigh, sigh, sigh, when I looked at that thread I thought it was

just kidding. I guess it's not?

:hi:

And has the snow melted?

[Ladyhawk]

97. The snow is in the process of melting, yes. :)

I think my mother might be snowed in for awhile, yet. There are eighteen inches at her place. She has a four-wheel-drive, but there's about a mile of gravel road before she gets to a paved one. Besides, it's dangerous braving the roads when other folks don't have chains or 4X4s. I'm staying put for awhile, myself.

[IndianaGreen]

216. I think we should worry more about our Constitution

than about partisan considerations. Our Constitution and our freedoms are under assault across the board. This is obvious even to old fashioned conservatives that have become alarmed at Bush's power grab. Our frustration comes from the inability and unwillingness of many of our elected representatives to defend the Constitution they took an oath to defend.

The Republic lies mortally wounded at our feet while the "opposition" party recoils at the thought of voting for a censure motion in the Senate, or to hold hearings in the House about the Downing Street memos.

Our Republic is dying a bipartisan death!

[barb162]

94. I am wondering if this is just a joke

by Walt and Skinner. Ya think? Walt is a REAL democrat. What is going on?

[blondeatlast]

12. Gotta love that Skinner--the strong, silent type. Words for the ages...

"OK." :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[ronnykmarshall]

54. I love it.

Probably the quickest click of a mouse EVER!!

[Deja Q]

139. Suave and smooth. Just like James Bond on a good day!

:D

[mwooldri]

211. That's what a good sysadmin does: Say little, do lots.

Ok?

[Frank Cannon]

15. WTF was that all about?

:rofl:

[supernova]

16. OMG! It finally happened!

:rofl: :rofl:

It's hard to believe. He's been threatening to leave almost since day one. :D

Thanks for the laugh Matcom.

edit: On the good side, it might be better to ask for a TS than to post a pity party "I'm leaving DU thread in the Lounge." Guns ablazin' and alla dat.

[Crazy Dave]

42. >>post a pity party "I'm leaving DU"

I find those ridiculous myself. It's the "since nobody agrees with me I'm taking my toys and going home" attitude.
Someday I'll probably go away out of pure boredom. Nobody will probably notice and nor will I even care. Thank god I do have a life outside and besides the internet forums.

[blondeatlast]

19. Here's the offending thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2506553

[Frank Cannon]

21. Thanks.

That kind of sucks. Walt Starr was here for a long, long time.

[BikeWriter]

66. Whoa, he'd sent Skinner a PM that he was deliberately breaking the rules.

He is so out of here!

[graywarrior]

20. Hard to laugh through a migraine, but that did it.

[Hugin]

22. I note also... One of the shortest disruptor threads on record.

Remind me never to... Even rhetorically, invoke a tombstone.

As, in "Give me Liberty or Give me Tombstone".

[fishnfla]

23. Thats really too bad, that guy could debate

I did not agree with everything he said, but he posted alot and held his own position well. He participated in many interesting debates on DU.

I for one will miss him.

Maybe that troll was right. This is nothing more than an "amen" forum

[LostinVA]

25. The troll was 100% WRONG -- this is way more than an "amen" forum

Actually, sometimes it's so much the polar opposite, it drives me nuts!

[Iris]

202. I agree LostinVA. But I've learned a lot because of this and

have solidified some of my ideas, revised others, and abandoned some all together.

[Hugin]

27. I agree with you... I enjoyed reading Walt's threads.

But, he changed over time... As many here have. I've accepted
the fact I'm never going to change anyone's mind by posting on
DU. (If I ever have, it was an accident) The most I can do is
post the truth of an issue the way I see it. I can't make people
agree... and that is where people like Walt fail. They passionately
believe what they believe and they see the truth in it. Nothing
wrong with that... But, then they go out trying to change minds.
There is where the trouble starts.

Politics and public opinion are a game of patience.

[fishnfla]

29. People change their minds all the time

I know I do.

Thats the point

[crispini]

43. Yeah, and posting on DU will do nada, really,

to make a difference. I find you get much less frustated with a judicious application of real-world politics.

[BikeWriter]

63. Skinner could not ignore his ultimatum and still maintain order!

[KitchenWitch]

168. Are you referring to the 13 post in 40 minutes troll from the other day?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

183. Walt hadn't "debated" anything for a long time. (nt)

[In_The_Wind]

24. WTF

Signed:
Dazed & Confused

[barb162]

93. me too

very dazed and confused

[graywarrior]

26. George Bush could learn a few things from Skinner.

[blondeatlast]

28. Ain't it the damn truth?! nt

[salin]

33. no offense

but that is a scary thought. Meaning - tyring to equate a tombstone (even when requested) - to a parallel that a president might have (imprisonment, expulsion?) With the abuse of power that bushco already demonstrates...

I'm just sayin...

[graywarrior]

50. I meant it in a broader sense.

Just sayin.

[salin]

52. I know

just the thought per bushco popped into the head.

[graywarrior]

57. You rock, regardless.

my 2 cents.

[salin]

59. that... or I just have a

rather rambling mind ;-)

:hi:

[graywarrior]

75. Yep, I think you do.

Which is a good thing coz I got one too.

[salin]

77. add a drop of procrastination

and its a dangerous thing... :D

[graywarrior]

79. Hold on a sec.

I'll get to it...just wait a sec, will ya?

[HughMoran]

30. That cracks me up!

:rofl:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention ;)

[LaurenG]

31. Well

I loved arguing and alternately agreeing with him. He shouldn't have asked Skinner to do that though, geez what was Skinner supposed to do say NO.

:shrug:

[NoPasaran]

36. One of the loosest of the loose cannon

Has finally gone overboard.

[salin]

38. definitely a loose cannon

love him or hate him - he has been interesting to watch/read as his levels of political frustration were visible. I think many of us have felt the same frustration at one point or another - in terms of frustration not only with bushco but with what we can do (centrists blame progressives and feel attacked and progressives blame centrists and feel attacked). I look at the 'going over the line' as a harbinger of spiking political frustration that is going to only spike further and further in the upcoming months - Walt has always been a wee bit hyperbolic - but I think that his spikes of frustration and enthusiasm are a good measure (as they read to be a bit more amplified in size than many of us) of that which many Duers will express in the coming months. This is no comment or critique about DU - but a comment and critique of the heightened sense of danger and fear that the strategies or candidates chosen will lead to more years of bush/GOP dominated govt and all that is entailed by such a prospect.

[RandomKoolzip]

37. He'll change his mind and ask to be reinstated today.

That's the Walt Starr Method: he changed his opinions like most of us change our undies.

[DS1]

40. Yes, but his opinions were full

[DS1]

39. YES!! HE DID IT!

THANK FUCKING GAWD THAT FUCKER IS GONE!!!!

MY FUCKING GOD THIS WEEKEND ROCKS!

ANOTHER SENTENCE WITH THE WORD FUCK IN IT!!

[matcom]

41. soooooo

you will be delivering the eulogy? :D

[DS1]

44. Did you know the D in DS1 was for Dirty, and the S was for Starr

There can only be one Starr around here, and it's ME motherfuckers!

[salin]

45. I never made the connection...

you've just been pretending to be living in Mass... and have been teaching law at Pepperdine in California... how did it take me so long to put the Starr thing together... :evilgrin:

[DS1]

46. Don't make me go after you

I'll have you confessing anything I want

[salin]

47. I DO NOT KNOW

Linda Tripp.

[DS1]

48. How many lamps are there?

[salin]

51. Now that is Trippy

So whose lights are going to get shot out?

[Zomby Woof]

148. If he won't

I will.

[XanaDUer]

151. Heh...

:D

[ronnykmarshall]

55. Fuckin A!!

Happy fucking weekend, fucker!!!
:loveya:

[name not needed]

72. FUCK YEAH!

[rockymountaindem]

102. ANOTHER SENTENCE WITH THE WORD FUCK IN IT!!

Priceless!

:rofl:

:spray:

[Renew Deal]

166. I can't imagine what you'll say when I'm gone.

:scared:

;)

[madrchsod]

53. he`s from will county illinois

so it doesn`t surprise me at all...lol... that really is the funniest thread i have ever read in any forum other than the lounge..

[THUNDER HANDS]

56. for some reason I'm hearing the theme from M*A*S*H in my head

:shrug:

[LostinVA]

61. "Suicide is Painless"?

[Maddy McCall]

60. What the hell brought THAT on?

[salin]

62. someone links above

Walt has always seemed to have an amplified level of frustration / enthusiasm swings (as in we all have them but the amplitude of his waves seem a wee bit more extenuated that most of ours).

Hows writing?

[Maddy McCall]

64. Research is going great...

I'm going to Oklahoma soon to interview the descendants of my subjects. :D

I hope to be defending next Christmas. Hope, being the key word. :hi:

[salin]

67. Sounds very interesting (the research)

and the timeline to defense sounds realistic! :hug:

[Maddy McCall]

71. Thanks, Salin.

Yes, I think it's doable. If not, then it'll be spring. One way or the other, I'll make it through.

:hug:

[blondeatlast]

124. Here's the beginning of the end.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2506553

[tallahasseedem]

68. Its sad, really.

I have seen his steady decline over there, but wow.

[BikeWriter]

70. Yes, he'd been here forever.

[entanglement]

69. I don't find it funny

Am I supposed to rejoice when a long term poster loses it and gets tombstoned?

:shrug:

[name not needed]

73. Yes. It's required.

[entanglement]

74. ???

[name not needed]

80. Uh, is there a fucking point to this?

[BikeWriter]

78. We could cry for days about it, but the facts wouldn't change.

:shrug:

[barb162]

142. so true, isn't it

[Blue_Tires]

143. neither do i

walt is on OUR side, and i hope he can just call this anger boiling over and get reinstated

[ghostsofgiants]

76. Considering the guy once said...

"The life of a single Marine WAS worth far more than the collective lives of every Japanese citizen at the time the atomic bomb was dropped. WE WERE IN A DECLARED WAR!"

I say good riddance.

[BikeWriter]

81. OMFG! I'm glad I missed that one.

[ghostsofgiants]

83. Found it...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5580468&mesg_id=5582940

[BikeWriter]

98. holy fuck... It is not often I'm at a loss for words.

[ghostsofgiants]

99. Yeah, you can see why I'm not lamenting his tombstoning.

[BikeWriter]

106. I thought I recalled having disagreed with him before...

I can see why now. I also see why this thread is still extant.

[GirlinContempt]

85. No, it was the lives of EVERY japanese person

and other choice things about the atomic bombs

[ghostsofgiants]

86. I found the thread after (and updated my quote)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5580468&mesg_id=5582940

[RoyGBiv]

123. Interesting ...

I just read through that thread. It was interesting to note the offerings of a recently departed, self-proclaimed mole.

[ghostsofgiants]

To whom are you referring?

[LostinVA]

87. No, I remember that

[Misunderestimator]

90. Thanks for that chilling reminder.

I remember some other similar posts about the bomb and the expendability of the Japanese.

[ghostsofgiants]

92. I wasn't really familiar with him prior to that post...

But needless to say, my view of him has been less than favourable since.

[jonnyblitz]

101. aaah..the hiroshima discussion.

:scared: that's always a good one on here. I remember him during that.

[ghostsofgiants]

188. But it was a war, don't you know?

Don't act like an American soldier isn't worth far more than every other person on earth combined. :eyes:

[arwalden]

82. Well What Do YHOU Know... Awesome!

:rofl:

[asthmaticeog]

84. Remember when he threatened to quit the party if he didn't get his way?

That was funny all 50,000 times.

Bon voyage, Walt. :eyes:

[barb162]

96. I missed that. Was that a while back?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

185. It was only 50k?

Coulda sworn it was more. :shrug:

[Guaranteed]

88. Looks like he was drunk, to me.

He'll be back.

[Misunderestimator]

89. At 8 in the morning?!? Wow... that would be bad.

And if it was the thread from the night before that you are referring to... posting this kind of challenge in the morning doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Looks like he got his way. Everyone should be happy.

It IS a pretty funny thread, given that the request was granted in the same minute it was posted. :rofl:

[RoyGBiv]

103. Creepy ...

I saw a thread he posted late last night. It was some sort of screed about why he's an independent or why he might be leaning toward libertarianism ... not completely sure because I didn't get past the first paragraph before I realized I didn't want to read any more. Regardless, I remember thinking, this thread may explode because it's late, but it'll be locked, and at least one person is going to end up really pissed.

Little did I know ...

[TroubleMan]

104. A picture is worth a 1000 words

[DS1]

105. Fuck you, buddy! You're NOT getting that 5th recommendation from me!

:D

[BikeWriter]

107. That's okay, I recommended it. ;-)

[southlandshari]

108. He doesn't need one from you

It is done.

Done happily, for that matter.

I thought the guy was an asshole. I just couldn't say it out loud until now.

[DS1]

109. You people are too easy

:P

oh, and :hi:

[southlandshari]

110. Never said I wasn't easy

But WTF does that have to do with recommending threads for the greatest page?

:evilgrin:

[DS1]

111. Oh yeah? Make that seven

[southlandshari]

112. So....

You're easy, too?

:P

[DS1]

113. No, I just got 3 recommendations for the price of one

sucker

[matcom]

114. i'm still laughing

the fucking timestamps are PRICELESS :D

[DS1]

115. I'm listening to the beginning of Breathe from Dark Side of the Moon

There's laughing everywhere I turn :D

[southlandshari]

118. Pffffftttt....

Timestamps show when something is posted, not when it was started.

SRMFA.

:eyes:

[southlandshari]

116. I told you not to call me that in public

:eyes:

[DS1]

117. It's nothing to be ashamed of

:thumbsup:

[southlandshari]

119. .....

:rofl:

The rest of my reply is better left unsaid.

:)

[matcom]

120. it's even better than that

[DS1]

121. Let the Eagles...

[matcom]

122. oh i DO hope you right-clicked

:rofl:

[DS1]

125. What do you mean? I drew that by hand, are you saying I

shouldn't sell it on DU?

Are you calling my work shit?

[southlandshari]

126. Oh HELL no!

I'm not even going to play this game. Not with the two of you.

Last time you two ganged up on me here I ended up laughing, crying AND puking simultaneously in the bathroom at work just before the HUD inspector was due to arrive for a tour and perky presentation of our plans for next year.

:rofl:

[matcom]

127. that was some of our best work!

what a GLORIOUS day THAT was!

DS1 and I STILL toast that effort every time we get together

[southlandshari]

128. A toast to you two, then!

And may your glasses be full of pure grain alcohol and your mornings find you with your heads full of rocks and your tongues lolling just above (or if I'm really lucky, actually touching) the water in the proverbial porcelin alter!

:loveya:

[matcom]

130. there you go again on about my lolling tongue

:eyes:

you are OBSESSED WOMAN!

[southlandshari]

131. Pu-leez

You're just reaching because you don't have a snappy comeback for my toast for you and DS1.

Weak, Sparky. Very weak.

:eyes:



While we are on the subject of tongues, however....

[matcom]

133. yes. while we are on that subject.....

[southlandshari]

134. .....

[matcom]

135. DELETE DELETE DELETE!!

;)

[southlandshari]

136. I, um, er....

:spray:

[Katherine Brengle]

129. WTF is it with all the freaks outing themselves this week? n/t

[Redstone]

150. There were others? Dang, more fun that I missed.

Redstone

[mdmc]

178. not all of us, just some of us, I am still here

freaks unite!

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

132. *snicker*

[barb162]

141. and your point is?

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

154. To get you to ask me what my point is!

(It was a snicker)

[Deja Q]

137. HOLY HASENPFEFFER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just to make that clear: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He was a long-timer. I wonder what had been said.

Oh well. Will somebody pass the stuffing? :9

[matcom]

144. look upthread

there are links to the ramp-up to this

[southlandshari]

145. I win!

[Capn Sunshine]

146. I'll miss Walt here

I agree Matcom, that was a great way to go out.
But , SHIT.

Walt Starr meant a LOT to this site, and in many ways exemplified the fighting progressive on the fringe of the Democratic Party. Like many of us, he wants to take it to these bastards, and is growing increasingly impatient with the bullshit in DC. I'll miss him. He served to enlighten and inform me on more than one occasion, and as a party exofficio in extemis I annoyed him more than once myself.


Never forget if you ask Skinner to tombstone you, he'll oblige.

[BikeWriter]

156. Especially if you write to him saying you are intentionally breaking rules

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

187. I don't have much use for fringe of ANY side.

Zealots are useless.

[Zomby Woof]

147. OH HAPPY DAY

Jesus, that fucker was whiny. I remember during the primaries, he switched candidate loyalties every five minutes, and for the flimsiest of reasons. Every post had a breathless whiny panic about it, as if his opinion was the supreme writ of DU. And for GD, that is saying something.

Good riddance. He was worse than a troll.

[uppityperson]

149. Very good

[Endangered Specie]

152. Looks like he won't be throughly missed

[mdmc]

153. I remember one of his posts was about w and his congressional ads

Walt proved that Bush had wore fake military honors and metals while posing for pictures in his campaign literature. Walt went through decades of political propaganda, and foil'ed military documents that proved what Bush did was illegal.

I was amazed by his ability to seek out info.

I often wonder if Bukowski, Hunter Thompson, or other great minds would be able to survive in DU without ending up tombstoned. How long would Michael Moore last?

[BikeWriter]

155. * and his fake medals were all over the internet(s).

[mdmc]

158. that is the one... it showed w. in his true form, well before flight suit

:kick:

[BikeWriter]

159. His own quote of several years ago summed him up nicely:

"You know, I could run for governor but I'm basically a media creation. I've never done anything. I've worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But that's not the kind of profile you have to have to get elected to public office."
George W. Bush, 1989
http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/bush.htm

[mdmc]

180. thanks for the link

:kick:

[BikeWriter]

203. You're very welcome. I have a link to the context I'll try to post later.

[BikeWriter]

208. (* quote in context:) George W. Bush

While he lobbied franchise owners for support, Republican party officials kept trying to convince Bush that he ought to run for office. George talked it over with one of his oldest friends, Roland Betts. When Bush was Yale chapter president of Delta Kappa Epsilon, Betts served as DKE's rush chairman. And they had both been investors in Spectrum 7. Now they were both partners in the Texas Rangers. According to the book Fortunate Son, Bush confided to his friend:
"You know, I could run for governor but I'm basically a media creation. I've never done anything. I've worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business. But that's not the kind of profile you have to have to get elected to public office."
Several months later, it become clear that somebody else was going to become baseball commissioner. So he finally acquiesced to running for governor.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/presidents/george-w-bush/

[Renew Deal]

167. Walt made that happen.

It's too bad he's gone. I don't know what happened recently.

[BikeWriter]

170. I see Daily Kos credited him with it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/1/171947/8490

[ScreamingMeemie]

173. DU credited him with it. Walt Starr was and is one of the good guys

who let the pressure and anger that sometimes boils over into GD get to him. I'm sorry to see him go...I am sorry to see some of the attitudes here about his banning. Whether he asked for it or not. I will always wish him well and be glad that he is on our side.

[BikeWriter]

174. Well, perhaps he will reappear on another forum.

[mdmc]

177. funny... I only saw it here, posted by walt starr

but I don't spend much time on-line elsewhere. Who broke this story? My point was that Walt Starr did some great work putting his posts together. I love the work he did. I hate OP threads such as "Tweety makes me mad." I always thought that Walt Starr offered a lot (please keep in mind that I am more of a progressive liberal then I am a dlc "uniter". perhaps that sheds some light on why I had a high opinion of Walt Starr).

Peace and low stress, mdmc

[BikeWriter]

204. Perhaps he was the one who broke the story. If so, he did great!

There were hundreds of thousands of us searching around the clock for dirt on * at that time.

[Zomby Woof]

171. .

:rofl:

[ScreamingMeemie]

172. Not long...In a grouping of forums where we delight in tearing apart and

eating our own. Somedays I don't recognize people I thought I knew. I used to be a strictly GD poster...then a GD/Lounge Poster...then more Lounge than anything else. Now, I feel as if there are really rotten people everywhere.

[Zomby Woof]

175. I started that way

I posted these long-winded and earnest essays in GD... for the first half year or so.

But that only went so far until they fell like bricks and it became rather masturbatory to continue.

Then I came into the Lounge to lighten up and talk music.

Then my posts in GD became more like drive-bys than analyses.

Then the yaks came.

But since the 2004 election, the whole atmosphere went wrong. A whole flux of trolls and narcissists poisoned both forums.

[mdmc]

184. peace zomby woof!

I still post everywhere. I have a great ability to talk with people from all walks of life. I can often get folks to look at a situation another way. I am a true freak - a Nader voting Joementum appologist! :kick:

[HEyHEY]

196. Delete

Wrong post

[mdmc]

182. thanks for your post

[redqueen]

200. Same exact experience here.

Some days I really wonder... what's the fucking point.

[Misunderestimator]

201. Here too.

And there are surprisingly rotten people just about everywhere. Even people who probably aren't really rotten can be rotten here. :(

[hunter]

210. Maybe I come here when I don't have enough rotten in my life.

No, no, that can't be it.

[Misunderestimator]

213. Nah... fortunately there's more good here to outweight the rotten.

:)

[henslee]

207. Walt did his homework on that project. I too was amazed by his ablities.

[Bridget Burke]

220. Yes there'll be many a dry eye.

(Old Irish saying?)

[marzipanni]

157. Do vultures

eat dead vultures?

[MissB]

160. Wow.

[Wetzelbill]

161. Walt is the guy who coined the term "Enronomics" WP used it in his book

"The Greatest Sedition Is Silence." and he credited Walt for it. (WP is a Will Pitt, for any newbies)

I didn't agree with Walt on some things. Especially last summer over the Roberts nomination, he said something about how Red-State Dems facing reelection soon should vote for Roberts etc, and that when Dems eventually get power they can nominate someone to counter him and so on. I saw similar arguments like that at the time. Selling women's rights out, essentially for a political strategy that might..I stress MIGHT eventually win back Congress. It was all dubious. I also remember he refused to vote for any candidate in the GE who voted for the Iraq war resolution. I didn't agree with that, as I think voting for somebody who is running against Bush trumped any supposed moral stand. But, Walt is a smart guy, some people didn't like him, I never really had any run ins with him or anything. Just a few replies to comments that I didn't agree with. Each time we were civil and articulated our positions pretty well, that I recall. That's too bad, I respected him a lot.

[mdmc]

186. I didn't know this

[Wetzelbill]

190. evidently not many do

I sort of thought it was common knowledge but I was the only one who mentioned it. :)

[Misunderestimator]

199. It's hard to get past his belief that our bombing Hiroshima was a-ok.

[Wetzelbill]

212. he said that?

see, morally, I just could never advocate an action like that. People try to justify it in many ways, I have never heard one that isn't morally dubious. Some advocates of actions such as bombing Hiroshima or say even voting for Roberts for a political strategy, they get all condescending and play the "well, I'm a realist" card. In the end, I find people like that are weak on positions and issues which genuinely matter. They aren't true fighters for what is right, due to their willingness to play politics with meaningful issues, you know?

[Misunderestimator]

223. Yes, more than once... primate1 found this link...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5580468&mesg_id=5582940

But I remember other conversations that said much the same thing.

[hunter]

162. Boo!

.

[Renew Deal]

163. OK

:wtf:

[KitchenWitch]

164. Wow!

I wonder what THAT was about.

[ScreamingMeemie]

169. I'm actually sorry to see that. I liked Walt.

[Elidor]

176. Lightning, meet kite

"tombstone me right the fuck now"???

Frustration with the party doesn't account for such poor manners. It's to Skinner's credit that he's considerate enough to accommodate the gentleman.

[ET Awful]

181. LMFAO

:rofl:

Ask and ye shall receive?

[Shakespeare]

192. OMG. That has a classic Looney Tunes feel to it.

For some reason, it brings to mind a picture of a charred/smoking and very surprised-looking Wile E. Coyote. Or Daffy Duck.

[ET Awful]

215. Daffy . . . muttering "You're dithpicable" as he wanders away

:evilgrin:

[meegbear]

193. BWAH-HAHAHAHAHA!!

What a maroon.

[WilliamPitt]

194. Oh Walt

*shaking head*

[BikeWriter]

209. I love the quote on your sig, my Friend! Well said!

[HEyHEY]

197. I'll take, "Shitheads I won't miss," for a thousand, Alex

[LSK]

198. hes alway been quick to label tinfoilers and quick to cry

How many threads does he have about leaving the party and the dems suck, etc etc.

[derby378]

206. WTF?

:spray:

Well, I for one am gonna miss him. Still, it looks like he brought it on himself...

[Medium Baby Jesus]

214. IBTL

:bounce:

[Skittles]

217. I liked Walt and I will miss him

:(

[LWolf]

218. This is what DU has come to:

Celebrating the tombstone of someone passionately determined to oust bush and co. because he didn't share the same pov about it with everyone.

Infantile, imo. :thumbsdown:

[Bridget Burke]

219. Since he asked to be Tombstoned, why should we mourn?

As much as I get irritated by Democrats, I won't throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate.

Of course, I don't live in one of the "Safe" Blue States. Voting Democratic in Texas is often a lost cause. But voting 3rd Party is Bad Performance Art.

[LWolf]

229. No mourning is necessary,

unless you are one of the DUers who appreciated what he had to say.

It really has nothing to do with 3rd party candidates; it's just a matter of civility. There are many people who have common goals with Democrats who are not fans of parties or party politics. To them, the whole political arena isn't about parties, but about issues. Since we have common goals, I consider it a better practice to work together on those commonalities than to restrict courtesy to the party purists only.

[KoKo]

225. What if Walt was sick or dying? Would you guys dance and laugh?

I think of all the threads for sick, distressed or Du'ers who have died suddenly and the accolaids and prayers and wishes...and I see a thread like this with chuckles and "don't let the door hit your ass" and the rest of the stuff and I wonder if we aren't hypocrits.

If something happened to Walt would these same people be on here wishing him prayers and get wells? Would we be consoling his family.

Sheesh...get a grip...Walt was trying to help Kerry by figuring out those Medals that that Idiot Chimp stole...and many of you guys here are now dancing on him like he was nothing...

[matcom]

226. for the record (since this is MY thread)

i was laughing at the fact that the blatent post was answered (and poster tombstoned) with the exact same timestamp. i don't really care WHO it is. THAT timestamp is some funny shit considering the tone and language of the OP.

[KoKo]

230. yep....funny shit.........i guess........ Takes all kinds...

[LWolf]

227. It should give all 86,000+ DUers pause.

Who expects to spend their whole lives on a message board? Who thinks there won't be a time when life moves them on to something else?

Seeing what is said when someone moves on or turns their back makes me wonder why anyone bothers to post anything at all.

[NaturalHigh]

221. Now, that's entertainment.

:rofl:

[DanCa]

222. What do you want on your tombstone.

Ill have onion and pepporoni. LOL.

[Kerrytravelers]

224. Ok, not to bring up an old subject... but

Bwahhhhh?

WTF? I know Walt Starr can be a bit... aggressive, but in the end, he always calmed down, so long as you promised to leave his guns alone!

Is it me, or is the climate of this near dictatorship America is quickly becoming making some people a bit... uh...

[Cocoa]

228. video version of that thread

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1033/hilarious_cat_fight/