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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:01 AM
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Why do politicians never have goatees?
I feel like this doesn't bode well for me, should I someday seek elected office. Are goatees sinister? Do they cause mistrust???

:shrug:
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:03 AM
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1. I dunno but they sure gave Gore flak when he grew facial hair...
my hubby wears beard/goatee and I really like it...
But I think most politicians think 'clean shaven' gives the image of 'clean cut' or some equally stupid superficial crap...
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:03 AM
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2. because of this guy:
:evilgrin:
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:07 AM
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5. I resemble that remark!
:evilgrin:
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:09 AM
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6. sorry...
I like them, myself....I just think most people have a negative reaction when they see one...just like the little Hitler one....
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:11 AM
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Hitler didn't have a goatee!
Just that little square moustache.

Man, I'm in the same boat w/ Hitler AND Lenin. Where's my razor????
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:15 AM
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10. no no no!
I didn't mean Hitler had a goatee...what I meant was, his moustache came to symbolize evil so anyone wearing one would be regarded as eveil, too. Goatees have been associated with the devil, therefore people wearing them are regarded as evil, too.
Get it now?????
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:05 PM
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39. Oh no, they're multiplying!
:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:04 AM
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3. Lenin?
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:07 AM
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4. him, too
Americans think "evil" and "Beatnik" when they see one
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:20 AM
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13. Beatnik?
You must be as old as me.
;-)
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:09 AM
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42. Like this guy
Work!!

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:10 PM
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40. Trotsky too
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:10 AM
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7. I currently am sporting a goatee
And I'm as evil as they come. :evilgrin:
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:11 AM
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8. I rest my case!
n/t
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stopthegop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:14 AM
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9. most men look silly with a goatee (IMO) n/t
.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:16 AM
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11. Ouch!
I didn't this thread would be so damaging to my ego!!!

:-(
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:19 AM
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12. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings..
It's simple Iconography....symbols are powerful...it's hard to separate the symbol from the reality...
here, have a :hug:
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:21 AM
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14. Thanks....
Here's a question, why's everyone so sure Satan has a goatee?

I figure he'd have sideburns and a REALLY bad comb-over....
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:22 AM
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19. old renassance paitings and church icanography
from the middle ages. I personally think the devil resembles GWB
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:52 AM
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44. These days, Satan...
Looks a lot like Chimpy...
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:21 AM
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15. because they aren't as cool as ZombyWoof or Matcom?
:shrug:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:22 AM
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18. Damn...maybe I should grow mine back.
:evilgrin:
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:54 PM
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28. and shave your head
:evilgrin:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:56 PM
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30. and wear a stylish do-rag
and carry a cane, er, freeper beater. :evilgrin:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:21 AM
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16. Star Trek ...
in the episode where the Enterprise gets sent to a parallel universe where the Enterprise crew there is evil, you could tell evil Spock because he had a goatee.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:22 AM
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17. The problem I have is most of the goateed men I have met have
very disagreeable personalities--especially in the true friendship, honesty aspects. Ergo, I dislike goatees (I don't dislike full beards or moustaches, just goatees). Of course, this is a TOTALLY BIASED opinion, based on a small sample.
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:53 PM
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27. Yeah, well, pbltltltlt! (see note below!)
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 02:54 PM by kmla
I do NOT have a disagreeable personality!!

*turns irony switch off*

Bwahahaha!!!!

Hope you noted the irony in that statement. It was meant as a joke.

Kinda like the "You disagree with everything I say! - I do not!" argument. Ever have one of those?

Once again - I'm joking! Want to be quite sure you don't think I'm a huge smartass. ('Cause I'm not that big...):evilgrin:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:31 PM
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35. I'm not at all disagreeable.
Don't like it? Here ya go!

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.geocities.com/j_hurst@sbcglobal.net/picture_2.jpg

hee hee hee

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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:25 AM
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20. I know a couple of guys who look OK with a goatee, sorta.
No, wait.
I think it's a Van Dyke.
The chin whiskers and an attached (?) moustache.
If they're thick enough, I guess they look OK. They just always remind me of either a magician or the villain in an old movie. Some kind of slickster who's not to be trusted.

I think a goatee is just the chin whiskers.

IMHO, EITHER looks ratty if they're thin and scraggly.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:28 AM
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21. Facial hair turns grey first. Too difficult to keep facial
hair dyed.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:52 AM
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22. To wear a goatee you have to be a great politician
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:32 PM
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36. See, Robert Bork wasn't rejected for his repulsive ideologies,
in fact they dumped him because of that ugly ass hair on his face he called a beard. Check out a picture of the guy, I'm totally serious. His anus is on his face.


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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 11:53 AM
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23. I think it is part of the latent anti-semitism in American society.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 03:02 PM
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32. goatees and beards have to with judaism
:shrug: I didnt know
I got a little bit of one I guess.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:42 PM
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24. Because....
It makes them look like a bartender from Friday's....:)

In the early 90's my boss, who was a Swede always wore a goatee. I started wearing one before the fad.....still have it....I can truthfully say I was one of the first......everyone thought I was nuts, then boom....everyone had one...
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:46 PM
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25. 'cause they'd look like Ming the Merciless from Flash Gordon
Not a good thing, generally speaking.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:48 PM
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26. because they look EEEEvil
Facial hair in general is out of the ordinary, goatees are too hip.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:56 PM
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29. You don't see many politicians w/ facial hair in general...
And they all wear blue or brown suits.

Personally, I've had my goatee for years now and would feel nekkid without it. And I'm as nice and as easy-going as they come - so fuck off! :evilgrin:
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 02:57 PM
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31. because its hard to trust guys with pubic chin-beards sometimes
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 08:17 PM
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33. Vladimir Illyich Ulnov
aka Lenin may have something to do with it. They are just too european for local politics.... its all subliminal
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:28 PM
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34. Satanic.
Looks too sinister to them. It's actually a holdover of Crusade era antisemitism, an era in which, coincidentally, it was determined how "Satan" looked at the Council of Leon (c. 1100 ad).




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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:47 PM
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37. Wellstone
Didn't he have a goatee for a while?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 10:13 PM
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41. Yes, he did... see what happens to pols with gotees?
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-03 09:48 PM
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38. Two reasons:
Though frankly I'm surprised we don't find goatees on just about every Republican in the country:



And oooooh, this one is finger lickin' good:



Francoise
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Maine Mary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 12:14 AM
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43. Hmmm. It could be hindrence but
not necessarily a recipe for political failure. As I've mentioned here on DU before, ANYONE (save perhaps pedophiles, rapists, murderers or some other despicable type charactor) can be elected. (Not you, I know- just had to make a point)

If you have an ability to relate to people and are willing to work your butt off to prove it, generally speaking, your physical appearance will only be a small consideration in the mind of most voters.

That said, why chance it? Many Pol's, especially those lower down on the totem pole can get away with various 'non-cookie-cutter' type appearances. But it becomes harder the higher up you go. Conformity sucks I know...

On the other hand..

There are SO many variables as to why people vote the way they do, most of which you can't control. But you can at least control your image. Who knows... a goatee MAY enhance your image (depending on the type of voters you are dealing with, as well as how you fit that image into a leadership role) but again, generally speaking, it could slightly hurt you.

Long story short. It could; (the un-conventional goatee look) hurt you, but if this look is part of who you are, DON'T change it. It's probably only a very small consideration among many others in your voter's minds. You'd have a much better chance of winning, goatee or not, if you present yourself as who you really are; heart mind and soul. Be yourself and work you butt off.







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