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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:19 PM
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Poll question: Catsup or Ketchup?
Enquiring minds want to know.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:54 PM
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1. Come on get to the polls.
:kick:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:56 PM
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2. "Catsup". Sheesh.
Every time I see that spelling, I think of a feline eating.

Besides, it makes that tomato-catch-up joke not funny.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:37 PM
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20. What joke?
never heard it.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:43 PM
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23. Apparently, you are not the only one.
This is a really odd commercial for Kikkoman,
it keeps showing a cat eating, and all I can
figure is that it is a 'Cat Sup' reference:
http://yoga.at.infoseek.co.jp/flash/kikkomaso.swf

Commercial itself is worth seeing just for the "WTF was that" factor.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:47 PM
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25. WTF?!!
was that.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:39 PM
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29. I don't know the name for it...
...but I know that there is one in Japanese.
A specific name for that TYPE of advertising.
It is a minor genré in Japanese PopCulture.(They have many.)

This particular one is characterized by very
'over-the-top' stylized homoeroticism.

As I said, that has a GREAT "WTF???" factor, doesn't it?
Too bad Kikkoman still sucks- I use nothing
but 'Pearl River Bridge' soy sauces these days.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:43 PM
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33. I use only Ketchup.
I like it on my Fillet Mig non.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:23 PM
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41. Well then, you are obviously a peasant unworthy to eat such a fine steak.
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 05:26 PM by dicksteele
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Seriously, though:

You are PROBABLY saying that as a joke,
but you are closer to TRUTH than you know!

Listen to my story:

The other month, I paid $28 at a local 4-star eatery
for about 5 ounces of 'Steak TarTar'...
And it was AWESOME!

I spent a WEEK ranting to everyone I knew
about how GREAT it was,
and I was really at a loss for words
to describe the subtle-yet-tangy
vinegar-based marinade that the chef had used.

And then it finally hit me like a ton of tomatos:
It was a frickin' KETCHUP recipe!!!


Instead of mixing the vinegar and spices into tomato paste,
the Chef had just applied them directly to the raw meat.

As far as I'm concerned, BRILLIANCE like that is worth $2.25 an ounce!
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:25 PM
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42. I want my meat cooked.
I can not stand raw meat, or even rare meat. It was to be well done.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:54 PM
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46. Ok. That just leaves more raw hamburger with catsup for ME!!!
This is how the universe maintains BALANCE, my fellow carnivore!

It's all good.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:20 PM
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3. Kicked to keep the votes comin'
We know the answer--now it's time to run up the score!
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:36 PM
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19. Thanks for the kick.
:hi:
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 11:25 PM
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4. I voted for Catsup...
because I am contrary.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:31 PM
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13. You pretentious you know what.
:P
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:56 AM
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5. I voted for Ketchup, but
to be honest, although I always SAY "Ketchup" I almost never have occasion to write it. But if I did write "Catsup" I would still prounounce it "Ketchup."
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:38 PM
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22. But it is the same stuff
why do you need two spellings.
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:15 AM
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6. Is there really a difference.
I mean, it is Ketchup: why do we have two spellings? And is there supposed to be a difference in the product?
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:37 PM
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21. It is spelled different for the pretentious fast food joints.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:47 AM
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7. Tomato Sauce.
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 04:48 AM by Random_Australian
And it's not pronounced Toe - May - Toe either..
Toe - Mar - Toe
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 11:04 AM
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12. tomato sauce .. yup
grew up in Scotland, never heard of catsup or ketchup till I moved to Canada at age 10 ..so , Tomato Sauce is my name for it.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:32 PM
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15. No it is Ketchup.
Now look speak american.

:P
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:45 PM
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24. I concur with the Tomato Sauce view.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:41 PM
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31. Tomato sauce with corn syrup...big difference
if you're going to be making spaghetti, for instance. :D
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:43 PM
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34. MMMM
Ketchup spaghetti. I like it on elbow noodles.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:07 AM
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8. "Catsup" sounds just the slightest bit pretentious.
And if you're going to be pretentious, ketchup is a pretty ridiculous thing about which to put on airs.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:33 PM
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16. Well if you are in a fancy place like Burger King
it is "fancy" catsup.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 09:20 AM
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9. Catsup lovers hate America.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:35 PM
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17. Yep they did not vote for John Kerry
The bastards. They left Gilligan in charge of the country.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:28 AM
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10. Ketjap
Indonesian for soy sauce.

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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:36 PM
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18. But that is not Ketchup.
it is brown not red.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:15 PM
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27. You ever made ketchup?
We used to with the ends of the year's tomatoes on the farm. It comes out brown, not red.

(But yes, I know what you mean.)

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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:40 PM
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30. Well if it is brown maybe you waited to long with the year end tomatoes.
:D
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:41 PM
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43. Nope, properly cooked, it's brown.
Only red when chemicals are added to make it so.

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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:43 PM
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44. I was being sarcastic.
:P
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 10:30 AM
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11. Both
I'm schizophrenic. :)
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:32 PM
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14. You can only vote once.
So flip a coin already and vote.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:02 PM
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26. Mr. Burns on the Simpsons calls it Catsup
Me, I call it Ketchup....pick your side...me or Mr. Burns.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:41 PM
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32. Burns is a pretentious you know what.
So I say and voted Ketchup.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:31 PM
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28. Actually
the word comes from Indonesia, where in their language it's the generic term for any kind of sauce.

They spell it KECAP, but in their orthography the C is pronounced as a CH. So "Ketchup" is closer to correct.

I was told that "Catsup" came about because somebody (Heinz?) succeeded in nailing down a trademark for the word "Ketchup" (which wasn't actually legal, but Ambrose Bierce once defined "lawyer" as "one who is skilled at circumventing the law") so other vendors had to change the name of their product...

The interesting question is why we had to go to Indonesia to formulate a tomato sauce that would justify a fast-food hamburger.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:44 PM
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35. I put it on spinach.
MMMM
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:44 PM
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36. This Reagan hating Californian still calls it Catsup...
For a brief period in 1981, the Reagan administration decreed that ketchup could be considered a vegetable for the purpose of satisfying nutritional requirements for school lunches. Because the government’s edict used the spelling “ketchup,” Del Monte found itself unable to sell its Catsup to schools, and quickly changed its spelling. Although public outcry soon resulted in ketchup’s removal from the vegetable list, Del Monte kept its new spelling.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:45 PM
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37. But it is a vegetable.
I grew up on it. Great source of vitamin C and salt.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:54 PM
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39. historically, Catsup was a fish sauce...
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 05:00 PM by BrotherBuzz
and should be classified a meat! :shrug:

and never mind, Scientifically speaking, a tomato is a fruit. :)
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:55 PM
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40. I like it on fish sticks too.
So I guess so.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:47 PM
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38. Ketchup
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:44 PM
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45. ok
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:15 PM
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47. Please note which bar is red.
I rest my case. I mean, who ever heard of blue ketchup?

umm... EW!!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:16 PM
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48. Ketchup. Ketchup, Ketchup, Ketchup. It even says so on the bottle!
I know a couple of people who call it Ketsup. That one always leaves me scratching my head.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:23 PM
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49. I have heard it called that.
Some people are weird.
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