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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 08:13 PM
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suppose the Romans had used, say Guillotines instead of
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 08:14 PM by yellowdogintexas
crucifixion.

Would all the houses of worship have guillotines over the altars?

For reasons I can't even begin to explain, this popped into my head on the way to work this morning, perhaps triggered by a large billboard advertising Easter Events and a local large Southern Baptist church, and which featured a very large empty cross.

It would have been a lot harder to have a ressurection, too come to think of it.

Without the resurrection, Christianity would have most likely morphed into its mother faith...

Or what if they had used the drowning test that was used in Puritan America?

The mind boggles.


I am going to get some more soup.
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:14 PM
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1. That's why I've always had a personal issue
with the cross as a symbol. Wearing a cross around your neck, to me, is like wearing an electric chair, or a syringe around your neck. There was no glory in the cross itself. LOTS of people were crucified.

Objectifying the cross never made sense to me. I have to wonder if it's a bit insulting to Jesus sometimes.

Just my opinion, nothing more.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:41 PM
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4. It's like Bill Hicks used to say...
"A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back, he ever wants to see a fucking cross? Kind of like going up to Jackie Onassis with a rifle pendant on, you know."
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:43 PM
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5. My brother always uses that quote!
He loves to throw that one out every time some church group in my area tries to sell him various crappy items w/ crosses on them.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:06 PM
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9. That's why I like this particular Apostle
St. Bartholomew was flayed alive, so he is the Christian equivalent of Xipe Totec; "Our Lord the Flayed One".



It reminds me that Aztec and Christian culture are not that different when you think about it...




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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:17 PM
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2. i have wondered this myself...
and come to the conclusion that all organized religions are batshit crazy.

but that's just me.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:37 PM
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3. There was an issue of Weird Science
one of those old comic books from the 50's with science fiction stories. I forget the gist of the story but I think the guy was on another planet somewhere, and he had crash landed. Anyway's he ends up trying to teach the people tolerance and peace and love and all that horseshit and they rack the guy to death.

Then it cuts to 2000 years later and people are wearing little rack shaped pendants on their necks as representative of their worship of him and the religion that got based on his 'teachings'.

Something like that.

Anyways I always found the whole thing so freaking morbid. I get why they do it, but I much prefer the whole "buddy Christ" thing from Dogma.

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:48 PM
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6. There's always an alternative...

The "Buddy Christ"

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 09:55 PM
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7. and for the trifecta
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harleydad Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:03 PM
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8. There is no difference between the cross and the electric chair.
Many christians forget the "shame" connected with that type of death. And I bet that if this Jesus came today saying now what he is believed to have said then, the current religous "insiders" and guys with all the power would give him the same ignominious treatment he got then, those self-righteous bastages.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:10 PM
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10. Zombie Jesus
Happy Easter Zombie Jesus !
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:13 PM
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11. Bill Hicks
"A lot of Christians were crosses around their necks. Do you think if Jesus comes back he'd ever want to see a f*cking cross again? It's kinda like going up to Jackie Onasis with a rifle pendant."-
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