Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Who "owns" the internet?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 02:59 AM
Original message
Who "owns" the internet?
I have a research paper that I am working on for an English class. Almost every bit of the research I have done so far says that the internet started as an answer to the launch of Sputnik during the cold war and that the Department of Defense really started the original infant version of the internet.

My english teacher told us the other day that Netscape owns the internet and that it was "born" in the 1960's for universities to form a network and that the Department of Defense had nothing to do with it. He said that was misinformation. Que? I don't understand how anyone can "own" the internet, or internets as I have heard some people call it/them. And I really don't understand how I am going to write this paper (not a technical paper, but a paper for a general audience) without going into too many technical details about ARPANET and the real beginnings of an internet, period.

Anyone out there familiar with the real story who can direct me to a reputable link on this topic? I really need some solid sources so I can get on with this project.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:07 AM
Response to Original message
1. As usual, Wikipedia
is a pretty good place to start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet

Good luck. :hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:31 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Thanks for the link to Wikipedia, but I'm afraid
he'll rake me across the coals if I use them. He seems to have a thing about the internet. He doesn't trust any information from it unless it is from some corporation somewhere. He has already warned us. I will go back there and try to follow some of the sources there and see if they turn up some "trusted" (his word: translated he only trusts corporate bullshit) sources. I'm so behind on my homework and I've been working on it since I came home from school Friday. This is too much homework for one person to do in a weekend. So much for resting at all.

Again thanks for the help.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:39 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. How about educational institutions?
Here's a site dealing with the history of the Internet written by a history professor at Leiden University in the Netherlands, and I'd say it's more likely to be correct than somethign a corporation would have on their site. (And you can tell him if he's unwilling to accept academic sources that he's a moron and you'll go over his head about it, as you should anyway).

Here's the most salient section: http://www.let.leidenuniv.nl/history/ivh/chap2.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:50 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. Thanks, he will have to accept this
source. He is not likely to dispute what another teacher, especially a history teacher. At least, I don't think he will. He has a tendency to be a jerk about things. I had him last semester too. What a drag that was. He made me revise a paper on Jeffrey Dahmer so much, I was having nightmares, literally.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:11 AM
Response to Original message
2. The DoD did have something to do with it:
In fact, ARPANet, one of the precursors to the modern Internet, stands for the Advanced Research Projects Agency, funded by DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) which is a military entity, housed at the Pentagon.

Here is a scholarly article on the subject:

http://endnear.com/texts/his.pdf
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:36 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Thanks, I will bookmark it and read it shortly.
I'm doing several things at once. The project is going to kill me, especially when this teacher gets through making all his little red marks on the paper.

Thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 03:30 AM
Response to Original message
3. Your English teacher is a flaming moron...
Edited on Sun Mar-26-06 03:48 AM by Spider Jerusalem
if he thinks that NETSCAPE 'owns' the Internet. No-one actually OWNS the Internet--and Netscape owns nothing these days...they got bought by AOL quite a while ago, and they were only ever a company making a web browser (note: the Internet was around for a long time before the WWW. The web is NOT the Internet). The Internet is decentralised, and it's not a network...it's more like a network of networks, communicating among one another via a standardised protocol (or more accurately a suite of protocols). And at least one of the reasons for ARPAnet (predecessor to the Internet) was to create a secure network that would allow communications in the event of nuclear war.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:39 AM
Response to Reply #3
7. Thanks, that is exactly what I am finding over and over again.
The deeper I dig, the more I see that no one owns the internet and that the ARPAnet networking technology really was the beginning of what later ended up being used for the internet and www.

Thanks for the info. I didn't think I was going nuts, but with the teacher saying what he said, I was dumbfounded.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:43 AM
Response to Original message
8. One thing that completely eludes me:
When you plop down your $25 to register a domain name, who gets the money? :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:53 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Good Question.
I heard years ago that there was a centralized place in Quantico, VA where domain names were supposed to come from, but I don't know how much of that was paranoia on my friend's part. He was the one who told me that. He had a thing about trusting anything coming from anywhere near the US government. I wasn't as wise about how our government lies, spies, and defies the Constitution back then. I sure believe him now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Omphaloskepsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 04:59 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. Well, you just paid way to much.
The company you registered the domain with gets a chunk. But, you should look into icann.org. The site seems to be down at the moment. For a basic primer you could read http://www.icannwatch.org/icann4beginners.shtml
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 05:11 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. I didn't
I've never registered a domain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 06:40 AM
Response to Original message
13. The internet, eh?
Originally it was DoD. Then Universities. Then it spread :)

Khash.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:24 AM
Response to Original message
14. The people who invented it, surely?
Of course, as with everything else, the internet has been globalized. Too late for them to want to take it back.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 07:36 AM
Response to Original message
15. Al Gore.
:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-26-06 09:41 AM
Response to Original message
16. Internet --> DARPA; HTML --> CERN; Graphical browser --> Netscape n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-26-06 09:41 AM by Benfea
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:10 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC