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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:02 PM
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Can The Cars even be considered The Cars without Ric Ocasek?
I don't think so. I was invited to a concert later this spring to see Blondie and The New Cars.

But Ric Ocasek is no longer with The Cars. Guess who's standing in as new front man.

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Todd Rundgren. I shit you not.
http://www.flashenhanced.com/carsblondie/

This is one concert I won't attend.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:06 PM
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1. Not a good replacement...what the hell are people thinking?
:crazy:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:25 PM
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2. I saw them on television . . .
. . . . And they were fucking GREAT! :)
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:25 PM
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3. Ah Rundgren isn't that bad
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 05:25 PM by jpgray
He had at least two good singles with the Nazz.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:31 PM
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4. Open My Eyes and Hello It's Me
Ding ding ding ding??????
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 05:32 PM
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5. Yep
And his production for the Sparks' "Official" debut anticipated everything the Cars did anyway. :P
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 09:03 PM
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9. What about...
..."We Got To Get You A Woman" and "I Saw the Light?"
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:31 PM
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12. A bit different.
Those two songs were done by Todd, solo; not with Nazz. :)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:24 PM
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18. It always looks like you are applauding your posts...and it cracks me
up every single time. :hi:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:31 PM
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25. Heh heh
I'm glad you're laughing. I'm applauding everybody's posts. :)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:29 PM
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11. Todd isn't bad, but he isn't Ric.
I just can't do it. :(
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:32 PM
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13. psssssssst
still waiting to hear the good news you promised me :D
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:22 PM
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16. Check your inbox.
:hi:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:35 PM
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14. I understand
I was never a big Cars fan (great singing and playing, though), so I'm probably not the best person to pass judgment on the new Cars anyway. And I would go just for Blondie anyway.

:P
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 07:27 PM
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6. Yup
These are spiffy new 21st century cars, with fuel cell technology and flywheel braking and all that.

And seriously, don't think Rundgren is just some sort of irony-impaired pop lightweight. He's one of the most sardonic observers of both the romantic sphere (e.g. "Can We Still Be Friends") and the greater world (e.g. the Swing to the Right album with his band Utopia, full of diatribes against the then-new Reagan administration). I think you should reconsider checking them out in concert.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 07:35 PM
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7. It gets weirder...
I read that Kasim Sulton from Utopia and Prarie Prince from the Tubes will be replacing Ben Orr and David Robinson, respectively, as Orr is, last I checked, STILL DEAD, and Robinson apparently knows a shaky idea when he hears it.

So with both of the band's actual songwriters out of the reunion, yeah, I think skepticism is wise, though I *will* give it a chance. I've eaten plenty of crow before, and if it's decent, then OK, it's decent. I just seriously doubt it.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:28 PM
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10. Are you going to see them?
They open the "Road Rage" tour in Tunica, MS. My best friend is dying to go, but I think I'd rather spend my money on a concert in which at least the majority of the original members are still with the band.

No desire to see Blondie.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 07:42 PM
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8. No. Without Ric, AND the late Ben Orr.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:39 PM
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15. The Cars were the first rock bank I was a fan of
so I'm sorry I have to say No.

I wont say if the band calling themselves "The New Cars" is any good, I haven't heard them. I don't think I'm doing it conciously but I guess on some level I'm avoiding hearing or seeing them. They may or may not be a good band but they're most certainly Not the Cars.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:23 PM
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17. Yep...my sentiments exactly.
:hi:
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 03:08 PM
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19. I do not care for these "new and improved" bands that seem to inevitably
spring from the ashes of the old band, sans dead former members (of course) as well as those still living who refuse to take part (Creedence Clearwater Revisited, anyone?).

Oh, yeah, Elliot Easton played guitar in CCRevisited. Still not the original CCR, though, no matter how you slice it - no John Fogarty, hellooo!
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 03:13 PM
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20. Not a good replacement IMO
Then again, I didn't think Phil Collins was going to be a good replacement for Peter Gabriel in Genesis...until I heard him. So I guess I'll have to hear Rundgren with the Cars to make a fair assessment.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 03:41 PM
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21. Blasphemy. Rundgren is a genius. One of my top two musicans, along with...
Frank Zappa.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:10 PM
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22. I thought it was interesting when . . .
. . . Todd produced a Grand Funk album. I think his voice is in the backup vocals and chorus in "The Loco-Motion." :)
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:14 PM
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23. Answer, no. That's like the Miracles without Smokey.
nm
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:18 PM
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24. They need to finance their retirement, so I hold no grudges ...
The Cars were a clever novelty act, somewhat like a B52s Lite, with some nice catchy pop tunes. Success ruined them, like many bands. Egos.

The music business being as brutal as it is, I don't care how these has-been acts perform, as long as they can create a live show with some craft to it. The norm in this business is the one-hit wonder, so they had done better than most. At least they had a body of work.

Bottom-line: they need the money. Including Todd.
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