Cows - smart, beautiful, amazing - wow.

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A cow contentedly chewing her cud may look like she doesn’t have a care in the world, but there’s a lot going on behind those big brown eyes. Cows are as diverse as cats, dogs, and people: Some are bright; others are slow learners. Some are bold and adventurous; others are shy and timid. Some are friendly and considerate; others are bossy and devious. According to organic farmer Rosamund Young, author of The Secret Lives of Cows, cows “can be highly intelligent, moderately so, or slow to understand; friendly, considerate, aggressive, docile, inventive, dull, proud, or shy.”1

In addition to having distinct personalities, cows, according to recent research, are also very intelligent animals with long memories. Animal behaviorists have found that cows interact in socially complex ways, developing friendships over time, sometimes holding grudges against cows who treat them badly, forming social hierarchies within their herds, and choosing leaders based upon intelligence. They are emotionally complex as well and even have the capacity to worry about the future.2,3

Researchers have found that cows can not only figure out problems, they also, like humans, enjoy the intellectual challenge and get excited when they find a solution. Their big problem, of course, is that they’re being raised for slaughter, and just like all animals, they don’t want to be separated from their families, and they don’t want to die. So cows have been known to use their smarts to perform amazing feats, such as leaping over a six-foot fence to escape from a slaughterhouse, walking seven miles to reunite with a calf after being sold at auction, and swimming across a river to freedom....

a lot more:

http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_cows.asp

http://www.goveg.com/f-hiddenlivescows.asp

[YellowRubberDuckie]

1. AND....they taste really good with veggies.

:evilgrin:

[Redstone]

2. Even without. The solitary cheeseburger has its own charm.

Redstone

[YellowRubberDuckie]

3. Drippy with cheese is the way I like it....

Ever have a Friday's cheeseburger? If not I highly recommend.
Duckie

[Redstone]

6. No, but I made Pimento Cheese burgers the other night.

My pimento cheese and Mrs R's burgers. Ambrosia. Salty ambrosia, but still.

Redstone

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[SofaKingLiberal]

104. I knew there would be deleted messages from that post

without even having to look.

[Deja Q]

124. Like french fries?

:9

[Katherine Brengle]

4. Amen Skip! Thanks for that!

[flvegan]

5. If not for the juvenile responses

I'd have thought I had found a place of compassion and intelligence.

Great post, though. And thanks for putting facts out there that others seem unable to grasp (or care about).

[DS1]

9. You didn't expect otherwise, did you?

I waver on the idea of eating meat, and went veggie for a year but regardless of all that the animals should be treated more humanely even if they ~are~ raised solely for consumption

[flvegan]

10. Of course not.

So, in my lowered expectations, I would also suggest that the posters would also not expect otherwise than to receive responses in kind. I hope posters don't run to the "but I was joking" bullshit line when called out. Hey, shit on a post, expect it to blow back.

I applaud (not that it matters) your stance on the treatment of animals that are raised for food. I wish we all had such a mindset.

[TheMightyFavog]

11. Mmmmm... Steak...

With sauteed mushrooms and onions, cooked to a perfect Medium-Well, witht he tiniest bit of pink in the middle.

I have not had steak in sooooo looong...

[flvegan]

13. Did you read the post?

Just curious?

[Katherine Brengle]

15. Why bother posting in these threads just to be an asshole?

I don't think I will ever understand what motivates people to do this...

[Arkana]

12. Not to mention tasty.

Yeah, that's right. I said it. TASTY.

[flvegan]

14. Did YOU read the post?

Just curious.

[Katherine Brengle]

16. Probably --

It's the beautiful disgusting irony of DU -- veggies get torn apart for sharing while omnis can come into a thread like this and post messages that are meant to be purely offensive and get away with it.

It is beginning to grate...

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[LeftyMom]

18. You can say that again.

:(

[Lorien]

20. And to think that being a Democrat once meant that it was our

responsibility to stand up for those who cannot stand up for themselves. To feel compassion for those who suffer, no matter what species they are. Once we stood for the very best qualities humanity can have; now it seems we're slipping quickly into the "got mine-fuck you" mindset of the other side.

It's very sad.

[LeftyMom]

22. And for the enviornment.

Even if animals didn't suffer, the environmental cost of raising cows for meat and dairy is not sustainable.

[flvegan]

24. Don't forget the human rights issues, and the health concerns

that our govt. is lying to us all about.

The health concerns are obvious, and I'll let Human Rights Watch speak for the other:
http://hrw.org/reports/2005/usa0105/

[Lorien]

31. Yep:

http://www.mcspotlight.org/media/reports/beyond.html

[Kali]

78. It sure as hell CAN be.

You are once again making blanket statements that are simply not true in every case.

[laheina]

94. And Pork.

While South American cattle ranches contribute to the cutting of the rain forest, North American pig farms contaminate our environment. Pools of fecal matter contaminate ground water, streams, and rivers. Fish and local animals sprout sores on their bodies. It's really quite disgusting.

[BikeWriter]

28. I'm a Democrat. I eat meat. Who gave you the right to question my...

membership in the Democratic party over my diet?

[flvegan]

35. Don't get quite so bent.

Here's the post:
And to think that being a Democrat once meant that it was our responsibility to stand up for those who cannot stand up for themselves. To feel compassion for those who suffer, no matter what species they are. Once we stood for the very best qualities humanity can have; now it seems we're slipping quickly into the "got mine-fuck you" mindset of the other side.

Nobody's questioning your membership.

Hell, $35 gets you a nifty card to go in the ole wallet. The deal is that if you agree with the post, then the question stands.

[BikeWriter]

39. I'm for Democrats forever. Cows can never be Democrats...

They're too damned stupid and they are herd animals who blindly follow their herd leader. Thank you very much. ;-)

[flvegan]

40. Kind of like

people, eh? Both Dems and Thugs are fitting here, in the same description.

Not stupid...trained.

[BikeWriter]

43. Slurp, I love me some raw cow!

[flvegan]

46. Oh, now that doesn't even make sense.

I mean, really..."slurp?"

[BikeWriter]

52. To me it makes perfect sense. Cows taste good. They are stupid.

[LeftyMom]

54. Would you eat the retarded if they tasted good?

How about a dog? Pigs are a bit smarter and you probably eat them.

At what point is an animal too smart to be expoited, suffer and die for your wants?

[BikeWriter]

58. I have eaten dogs. I draw the line at humans.

[YouthInAsia]

82. why the line? Just wondering.

[BikeWriter]

86. Humans are intelligent beings, for the most part. ;-)

[YouthInAsia]

87. What if you were starving and stranded on a mountain?

[BikeWriter]

89. Have you read the book? IMO, it is not to be taken lightly.

[YouthInAsia]

90. what book?

[BikeWriter]

92. "Alive" It is about people starving and stranded on a mountain.

[YouthInAsia]

97. Oh, no I never read it. I was just askin.

:7

[BikeWriter]

99. Try reading it sometime. It is enlightening.

[YouthInAsia]

101. I shall. Thank you for the advice!

:hi:

[flvegan]

57. So then, it's about how a cow tastes when cooked?

"Stupid" is opinion that can't be measured in this forum.

[BikeWriter]

60. Uh, how many cows have you raised? I've raised herds...

of the stupid things.

[flvegan]

62. And? That's not much of an answer.

Oh, and congrats on your "dominance" over herds of "stupid things." A right wing run for Congress should be nothing but a thing at this point.

[BikeWriter]

84. Bull shit. Don't compare me to the RW or I will cop an attitude.

[flvegan]

88. Too late.

[LeftyMom]

42. We Dems are supposed to stand up for the exploited, the victimized

and the voiceless.

[BikeWriter]

45. Stand up for slugs then, I don't eat them.

[flvegan]

48. Why not?

[LeftyMom]

49. I'll stand for whoever I think needs it

and if you don't like it that's too damned bad.

[liberaltrucker]

38. Right on, Bike!

I enjoy a steak, own a couple of guns, AND (gasp!) I'm a fucking
LIBERAL Democrat.

[BikeWriter]

41. Freak'n A, Pard! I am a proud omnivore!

I'll eat any animal that doesn't eat me first.

[flvegan]

44. Seriously...

answer me this...as to your response here:

Why?

[BikeWriter]

50. Because your people are anthropomorphising stupid meat animals...

in The Lounge. I will stop eating meat when you pry a cold bare bone out of my cold dead hand.

[LeftyMom]

51. Every cow you eat hastens that day you know.

:shrug:

[BikeWriter]

55. Wonderful, you glorify stupid animals. I'll keep eating them.

[LeftyMom]

59. Can a cow suffer?

Does it feel pain, miss it's stolen offspring, feel fear on a truck to the slaughterhouse?

Allowing for the expoitation of those considered stupid has contributed to some of humankind's nastier behavior. It's really not a morally defensible position.

[BikeWriter]

61. I'm certainly okay with it. I raise them humanely, then eat them.

[LeftyMom]

63. Is there a humane way to kill an animal years before it's time,

simply to eat it? Again, I don't see how that's morally defensible.

[Kali]

126. "Is there a humane way to kill an animal

years before it's time, simply to eat it?"

Yes there is.

You seem to have a problem comprehending the difference between humane treatment of food animals and YOUR personal choice not to eat meat. I, and many others, agree that much of the current mega-factory method of food production is both unsustainable and inhumane.

However, that does not equal your viewpoint that eating meat in itelf is those things. THAT is your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. I don't think anybody is trying to force or even encourage you to eat meat. Your attitude, on the otherhand, comes accross as superior, especially when you use terms like "morally indefensibe". Your words tell people that your choice makes you better than others. That is one reason some people react with snark and defensiveness. People don't react well to being told they are amoral or cruel. Especially when they are neither.

Yes, educate them on the benefits of eating healthier, yes educate them on the realities of factory "farming" but please allow yourself and others to be educated on moderate alternatives to those problems in addition to the extreme choice you have chosen. Try using some qualifiers when you make statements about handling, processing and the environment. Likely there will be much more progress towards solving the problems we are ALL concerned about than by preaching from a holier than thou pulpit.

[flvegan]

67. Raise...eat. Funny how slaughter is missing there.

Maybe it's not.

You defend all rearing and slaughter of these cows. If you raise and slaughter yours humanely, you're doing a disservice siding with those that do not.

[flvegan]

53. Okay, so then

you eat meat because I/me/my people allot that animals, other than humans, have "human" qualities?

Yet, then, you suggest that I'd need to forcefully remove a "cold bare bone" from your "cold dead hand."

Have I got this right?

That said, would it be safe to say that if "my people" didn't allot these qualities to animals that you'd then stop eating them? I mean, that's what you're suggesting...

[Arkana]

125. Thank you. Christ.

Why is it okay for vegans and vegetarians to choose not to eat meat, but it's NOT okay for us to choose TO eat meat? Please, answer me this. I own a gun, my favorite foods include strip steak and venison, and I'm as LIBERAL AS THEY COME.

[Katherine Brengle]

79. That's not the point --

the point is that some of those who disagree with our lifestyle choice decide to act like assholes whenever the subject comes up.

I do not take issue with omnivores.

I take issue with people who feel obligated to make snide remarks to someone else's heartfelt post.

(This is not an attack on you, but on those who do this.)

[Kali]

75. um there IS a difference between food animals and human beings.

You can still have compassion and stand up for those WHO (that generally means a PERSON) cannot stand up for themselves at the same time eat meat. And you can eat meat without causing suffering. The two are NOT mutually exclusive.

[Kali]

91. Came in to share?

I think it was a bit of bait that got taken don't you? I mean yeah the reactions are a bit snarky, but it IS the lounge and the post is a little over the top with the emotional overkill. I would love (and started to till I read the whole thing) to talk about cows and how they ARE - I raise them, love them and am fascinated by them. But that wasn't really what the post is about is it? Its about manipulating emotions and trying to change behavior with guilt. And it was posted in the lounge - isn't there a veg forum? Or an animals-should-have-equal-rights-as-humans forum? (sorry the snark does slip out occasionally with me too)

[yewberry]

109. "Isn't there a veg forum?"

Why, yes, there is. Are you suggesting that we should post only to that group?


By the way, there's also a rural/farm forum. Enjoy!

(Heck, if we have to post in obscurity, so should you.)

[Kali]

117. No not suggesting that at all.

Just pointing out to those who seem overly sensitive to the snark that it might be safer there. I have no problem with the discussions, only with misinformation, distortions and such.

Of course my REAL point (that you may have missed) was my opinion that the post was a bit of flame bait anyway. There are much more neutral sources for a post on cow beauty and behavior than those cited. Interesting how the OP never came back to the conversation.

[Kat45]

19. I love cows. They're beautiful animals.

That's so cool to read about their personalities and intellect. Many, if not most, people would not even think about cows in that way. It's the same with birds. They are quite intelligent and each has his or her own personality, quirks, etc. When one has the opportunity to get to know some birds, it's quite eye-opening and wonderful.

[Lorien]

21. Every wild and domestic animal I've ever known is a unique individual

I have lots of raccoons living in my backyard, and man, do they have distinct personalities! Some are so foul that I've had to move them with havaheart traps, others are sweet and loving-even with cats, possums, and other animals. Some are just plain goofy; one would run up a sapling, hold on to the end and start to bounce until he got himself going enough to catapult himself across the backyard. He'd land with a crash...then run back to the sapling and do it again! Insane beast. :-)

[u4ic]

47. Absolutely!

even my 'lowly' gerbils that I had when I was a kid...they all had their different personalities.

[BikeWriter]

30. I love cows. They taste delicious!

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[BikeWriter]

95. That is one person's opinion.

[RevCheesehead]

23. And I would like to add that happy cows come from Cowlifornia...

But truly joy-filled cows live in Wisconsin. O8)

[flvegan]

25. Considering the life of a dairy cow

I'd suggest to be damning on it's face such a statement about cows from the "Cheese State."

Now, if you're talking about the life of a calf in Wisconsin, I'll have to darken the doorstep of one of the veal calf confinement warehouses and get back to you.

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[BikeWriter]

26. Can you say anthropomorphic? Cows are stupid, but they taste good.

[flvegan]

29. Of course meaning

that they're given human qualities or characteristics, yes?

So, to back up your post, prove that

1. Cows are stupid;
2. Cows lack certain human qualities and/or characteristics;

For a bonus question, can you prove the non sentience of a cow?

BTW, go take a bite out of a live cow, in a field, and...never mind. You have enough work to do.

[BikeWriter]

32. Freak'n A. Cows are food. Until you buy all the cows in Texas, they...

will still be food.

[flvegan]

33. Wow. Good answer.

I don't know what the question was that you were replying to, but good show!!!!

You know, 100 years ago, that mentality was the same spewn forth by...

Nah. Too easy.

[BikeWriter]

36. Keep spewing anthropomorphic crap. I'll keep eating beef...

we'll see who outlasts the other. :-)

[flvegan]

37. Ooooohhhh, good dodge.

And, btw, you don't want to put book on that.

Keep going.

[BikeWriter]

64. Freak'n A. If I bet you and lost who would pay you? ;-)

[flvegan]

68. I'd already have lost.

I don't want you to go anywhere. Hell, you're a blue vote, right?

Besides, oft a bet is best won simply on it's face and not on it's reward.

[BikeWriter]

73. Well, I have had cows stomp me and try to kill me...

but I will continue to eat them until they put me in the ground. ;-)

[Dangerously Amused]

111. Continuing to eat them will put you in the ground, too.

Eating too much meat will kill you.


It's as simple as that.

[Kali]

114. hmmm I wonder if all the old ranchers around here know that?

I know tons of the old farts, there may be a lot wrong with their politics, but they seem pretty damn healthy - a lot of still riding (horses) in their upper 70's....

[BikeWriter]

116. I'm 60 myself. The last equine I trained was an albino mule...

a few years ago.

[Kali]

81. Some are some aren't

ever been around Longhorns?

[BikeWriter]

96. Yes'm, we raised one little maverick in my back yard.

[Madrone]

103. SUV's are wasteful, but they make me feel TOUGH.

Wal*Mart is evil, but I can't live without my cheap plastic crap.

Going into Iraq in retribution for 9/11 is dumb, but hey! Killing towel-heads is suhWEET!



Go ahead, keep justifying your HUGE impact on the environment (ethics regarding living beings aside) because you WANT to scratch your selfish itch. Many of us see it for the steaming pile of bullshit it is.

[DS1]

34. Hey now

[Ekirh]

123. I think

This is the best post in this thread.

[Redneck Socialist]

56. Pure evil

They're plotting to take over the world, I'm convinced of it.

:crazy:

http://www.3dweb.no/galleri/stuestolbm/bilder/anim1.swf

[BikeWriter]

70. Cows with guns!

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/cowswithguns.php

[Elidor]

65. A flame war over hamburgers

Now I've seen it all. And god help us all if we can't be flippant and snarky in the LOUNGE of all places. The PC police won't be happy until nobody jokes around about anything, anytime, anywhere. Leave GD in GD, for fuck's sake, people.

(This is not directed at the OP, but at too many replies to pick a suitable place to stick it.) It's a beautiful story, and yes, I love me some fucking hamburgers. The day snark is outlawed in the Lounge, someone let me know, so I can turn out the lights and move on.

[DS1]

66. Can you eat snark?

[Elidor]

71. I can eat, fuck it, and leave it bleeding in the gutter

I'm the juggernaut, bitch!


:evilgrin:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3934651591022114445&q=juggernaut&pl=true

[DS1]

76. Dude, the Bukkake Rooster video on the right looked far more

interesting, and it's f'in hilarious

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3421192792011200409&q=juggernaut&pl=true

[Elidor]

83. LMAO

That was cute.

[Dangerously Amused]

110. "I can eat, fuck it, and leave it bleeding in the gutter."

Yeah, brutal rape is always amusing, eh?

Ha, ha.

[flvegan]

69. Then move along.

I think those involved are well aware of the flippance and snark.

Thanks, though!

[Elidor]

85. I humbly beg to bring to your attention

The fact that you are not the thread police. Bummer, I know.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

98. I think it's more like deliberate antagonism

I eat meat. I don't feel I need to antagonize or mock vegetarians. Many believe the mass production and slaughter of animals is cruel..again, even though I eat meat, I don't disagree.

And yeah there's fun to be had and snark to be made, but it's a guarantee that if someone has closely held beliefs about being a vegetarian, they will be antagonized here. Witness the very first post on this thread and all that followed.

[Jamastiene]

108. I certainly do not want to antagonize anyone who has chosen

not to eat meat. A good joke will make me chuckle though. I love animals and I eat meat. The animals that live with me eat meat too. They did it before I adopted them too. I agree with you about some civility here. It would be much appreciated by both veggies and nonveggies alike.

[Jamastiene]

106. Best post in this thread so far...

next to the OP.

Maybe, the flaming and pure passion should happen somewhere besides the Lounge. I mean if you can't make a tasteless joke in the Lounge, then where?

[Kali]

72. I raise cattle and can confirm some of this. And some is BS (no pun inten

ded)

They form social groups too, or at least some do - often several generations of mother-daughter-grandaughter sorts. Others never seem to be with the same "associates" at all. They show breed differences in temperment and inteligence as well. I've seen our Longhorns do some amazing things. I once watched a grand old girl pick up the side of an old bathtub that had been used as a feeder. She slipped the tip of one horn under the bottom and lifted. What was so amazing was she didn't do it to move it out of the way so she could get to the goodies underneath. She lifted it and held it up while ANOTHER cow got the goodies. Fascinating beasts. I love them. But I can still eat them.

However "worrying about the future"? Guess I will have to read the links. The rest sort of sinks back to the typical peta-like twisted hyperbole that really gets on my nerves. For instance a cow that "escaped" from a slaughterhouse most likly would have "escaped" from ANY situation where she was crowded into a small pen - even to be fed or reunited with a baby. Some animals for whatever reason, sometimes past trauma, sometimes I really do think it is just a personality thing, do NOT like small spaces - sort of like some people don't. These animals will ALWAYS jump out of a small pen. (or tear the hell out of it trying) Doesn't mean they have a clue they are about to be killed.

Most COWS are NOT being raised for slaughter, although most male calves are and yes most end up going eventually, but most beef cows are being raised to have more calves. They tend to live pretty ideal lives, for the most part. Even in this day of factory farming.

"they don’t want to be separated from their families, and they don’t want to die. " This is the kind of emotionally manipulating nonsense that irritates me and turns a lot of people off of the message. Putting animals on the same plane as humans is offensive to me. Especially when there are hurting, sick, hungry human beings in the world. Would't it be better to help them first?

Worrying about humane treatment is one thing - putting food animals on the same level as people is another.

[BikeWriter]

77. Thank you, Ma'am.

[Jamastiene]

107. You make some good points.

I wouldn't put cows on the same level as people, but they do have feelings. That much is true. I agree with you that people need help first and I appreciate your insight into this topic. I have struggled with it for years. I have tried vegetarianism. I couldn't afford to do it and still stay healthy. I just couldn't handle it. One day someone pointed out to me that even animals eat other animals. It's the way of carnivores and omnivores. Your post has stated quite clearly the fact that a person can appreciate the intelligence of an animal and still be a meat eater.

I do hate it when DU'ers get into intense flamefests over topics like this. May I make a suggestion that if this topic is your (meaning anyone reading this) "hot button," please try to take any jokes made with a grain of salt and realize that there is nothing gained by arguing with your allies and just move on.

Thanks to the OP for a thoughtful interesting OP.

[liberaltrucker]

74. Animals with the cloven hoof are meant to be human food

That includes deer, elk, antelope, and yes, cattle.

I agree that every animal has it's own unique personality.
After all, I'm the human companion of 3 cats.

But-cats aren't food. Cattle are. Yes, they're beautiful.
But to me, cattle are what deer are to a cougar-food.

Sorry about the reality check, but we human are part of
nature, too.

[Dangerously Amused]

121. "Animals with the cloven hoof are meant to be human food"

I am not familiar with that rule. Can you cite your source of authority, please?



"But-cats aren't food. Cattle are."

I'm afraid you are wrong. In some cultures, cats are food. Dogs, too. Then again, in other cultures cows are sacred and you may be put to death for harming one, much less eating it. So positions regarding which animals are "okay" to eat (as opposed to others) are based primarily on myopic convenience (self-interest) and the ignorance of equally valid but opposing facts.



"But to me, cattle are what deer are to a cougar-food"

Then how about you make like a cougar and kill your cattle they same way they kill their prey... with your own two hands and teeth? Do you think you could do that? And how about you eat your meat the same way they eat theirs...raw, and still warm from the killing? You can't, and here's why: Cats are obligate carnivores and designed as such. They will go blind and eventually die from heart disease if they don't eat meat. Humans are not obligate carnivores, and live very healthy lives eating no meat. You can't compare yourself to an obligate carnivore and say the justification for eating meat is the same. That's just silly.

[WildEyedLiberal]

93. Good God

There's some rigid dogmatism on this thread.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

100. on both sides of the issue

[WildEyedLiberal]

102. Yep

[grasswire]

105. "yes, cows are pretty" (eom)

[xchrom]

112. ok -- i feel really weird here -- i eat meat, rarely -- but i want to

distance my self as far as possible from some of the other meat eaters here.

i find most animals to have remarkable intelligence and coming from a farm family i've seen wonderful and marvelous intelligence in cows.

i don't know why it's sooo hard for some people to figure out that dog smarts or cow smarts -- are not the same as our smarts -- they are not stupid.

and i've known cows to worry -- just like i've known dogs or cats to worry.

i want to see the meat industry overhauled completely -- chickens, pigs cows whatever.

it can't be done as an ''industry'' -- it's demeaning and horrifying -- and we should be far more conscious
of what we're about.

but i feel the same about all farming period.

[Random_Australian]

113. I skipped the intro, like you said,

and there was nothing left but the sigline!

# of times that joke has probly been made: 283672.

[elehhhhna]

115. cows are sweet. the park behind our house was privately owned

when we moved in & the owner kept steers back there--usually about a dozen--different breeds. I miss looking out the window at 'em in the morning.

[sshaw1980]

118. hey

i'm knot from wisco but really close & have visited many many many tymes (i m adopted)
GO COWS

ha ha ha ya ain't been knowhere till ya been been with the MOOOOOOOO !!!!!!

if you have no experience ya kneed knot apply.... LOL

IMPEACH THE CHIMP !!!!

:D

LONG LIVE THE MOO !!!!



one purty moo !!!!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

119. Source seems very impartial.

:sarcasm:

I wonder what they have to say about, say, chickens?

[democracyindanger]

120. Chickens are trustworthy.

If you lend a chicken money, it will be sure to pay you back in a timely fashion. On the negative side, chickens have terrible handwriting.

[IsIt1984Yet]

122. .

:rofl:

[BikeWriter]

128. Chickens are one of our kindest domestic fowl...

It's true they will often eat each other alive, if they see a raw wound, but they seldom hold a grudge against their flockmate they've killed. It's also true the roosters are somewhat territorial and will kill each other, but at heart they are generous, helpful creatures, just like Foghorn Leghorn in the cartoons. :sarcasm:

[arwalden]

127. Mmmm.... Yummy Too! -- KILL THE COWS!! EAT MEAT!!

[Xipe Totec]

129. I checked the research. Sorry, but it is weak

The behavior described as intelligent is "signaling" to other cows where a food source is.

Ants do this as well, without necessarily being classified as intelligent.

[BikeWriter]

130. Hee hee hee! I'll bet you don't believe...

cows "enjoy intellectual challenge" either, huh? :rofl:

[applegrove]

131. "choosing leaders based upon intelligence". COWS ARE DEMS!

"Animal behaviorists have found that cows interact in socially complex ways, developing friendships over time, sometimes holding grudges against cows who treat them badly, forming social hierarchies within their herds, and choosing leaders based upon intelligence. "

http://www.goveg.com/f-hiddenlivescows.asp

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

A Texas Longhorn once tried to attack my mom but...

no one else standing by the fence (about 10 of us). So at least some of them have a brain.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

Deleted...it posted thrice

It wasn't my fault.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

132. Deleted...it posted thrice

It wasn't my fault...really...geez, stop looking at me that way...God...it was a simple mistake.