Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Which of these Major league record will be the toughest to break?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:45 PM
Original message
Poll question: Which of these Major league record will be the toughest to break?
Post 1900 (modern era), players only. (*)Cy Young won 511 games, but pitched pretty much every day in a dead-ball era. Young played most of his career pre-1900, only a handfull of seasons in the "modern era". IMHO Walter Johnson's 417 is the record to break.
Listed are the "popular" records that seem to stand out in measure of great players.
My pick is Pete Rose's hits record. That one is so far ahead of any active player at this point in time. Next toughest is Nolan Ryan's 5714 Strikeouts. No other player, past or active, is remotely close.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:47 PM
Response to Original message
1. pitching wins
They used to start every other day back in the old days.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SethInUpstateNY Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Along the same line.
Pitching losses. Cy Young won 511 games, but also lost 316 games.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 06:53 PM
Response to Original message
3. I voted for Walter Johnson's 417
But the one I think is even harder is Cal-Ripken's game streak, which wasn't on the poll. Also, Barry Bonds' (sweetest left handed swing ever) 72 homers in a season won't be broken for a long long long time.


taught.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elvisbear Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:01 PM
Response to Original message
4. Nobody is going to break the pitching wins.
Average 25 wins per season for 16 years. Like that's gonna happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:05 PM
Response to Original message
5. How about games pitched while under the influence of LSD? Dock Ellis....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. This isn't an easy stat to track...
...but I'm going to guess Bill "Spaceman" Lee has him beat on that one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:05 PM
Response to Original message
6. Wins
No question. The game has changed so much since those days; even a complete game is now headline-worthy. "Specialty" pitchers are here to stay, and no one's likely to pitch 20 seasons averaging 25 wins per year, either.

Nobody's gonna get within sight of Hoss Radbourne's 60 wins in a season, either. But that was pre-1900.

Second: Bob Gibson's 1.12 ERA in 1968. Superhuman.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ok_cpu Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:06 PM
Response to Original message
7. I picked pitching wins
but I think the SB record is just as unlikely.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:43 PM
Response to Original message
8. I vote the Strike Out Record . . .
Although I really should've voted Wins record as an after thought.

Furthermore didn't Ryan also have the record for base on balls as well?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:48 PM
Response to Original message
9. another: Nolan Ryan's 7 no-hitters
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 07:51 PM by fishwax
Pitchers rarely throw complete games anymore, and there are but a handful of active players who have thrown more than one no-hitter.

edited to add: in this poll I voted for pitching wins :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:21 PM
Response to Original message
10. I'm gonna say stolen bases.
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 08:26 PM by ChoralScholar
Henderson is 468 ahead of the next person (Lou Brock), not to mention, light-years ahead of other active players.

Check this:

1. Rickey Henderson 1406

Active Players (Age) SB:
23. Kenny Lofton* (38) 567
T33.Barry Bonds* (40) 506
46. Eric Young (38) 457
55. Marquis Grissom (38) 429
62. Craig Biggio (39) 407
86. Tom Goodwin* (36) 369
91. Tony Womack* (35) 362
--------------------------------------------------

Not only is no one even CLOSE, no one is even on the way! All the people in the top 100 are either retired or within 3-5 years of retirement.

In order to steal 1406 bases over a 25-year career (long) you have to average over 56. In a 20 year career, you have to steal 70.

Only 3 players have stolen 70+ in the last 15 years. In order to see 100+, you have to go back to Vince Coleman in 1987, and Rickey Henderson in 1983.

I think the record is set for a while.

No one steals bases anymore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. how did I kill THIS thread?
Was my post that stupid, that everyone rolled their eyes and walked away?!?

:)

I provide thread extermination services at a minimal cost.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 05:55 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC