Why aren't guys attracted to smart girls?

[Ava]

:shrug:

[aquaman]

1. Because many men...

are insecure around a woman with a brain. I'm sure you knew that though.

[LuckyTheDog]

112. Are you nuts?

Smart is very sexy.

[aquaman]

117. Note to Lucky....

I didn't say that I was not attracted to smart women, I said many men are in general scared of a smart woman.

[WCGreen]

2. I love the smart womens......

[Hugin]

55. I'm liking the smart womens two.

:blush:

[barb162]

89. bwa

[SofaKingLiberal]

3. Because they are too smart to buy our BS.

:D

[jpgray]

4. Because often "smart" is a euphemism for unattractive

Ditto for "nice" when guys wonder why girls don't like "nice" guys. I know an actual "nice" fellow who is built like Apollo, and guy has never had problems with women.

[dolo amber]

113. I always heard "smart" was a euphemism for Ronnie James Dio

:shrug:

[CanuckAmok]

114. "Her name is Dio and she dances on the sand..."

[Susang]

115. I've always loved that song!

:D

[GoddessOfGuinness]

5. Smart guys are.

Really. :-)

[Beelzebud]

6. I am very attracted to smart girls.

But with my luck lately, they don't seem to be attracted to me. :/

[Oeditpus Rex]

7. Where did you get *that* idea?

Intelligence is a deal-breaker for me — particularly the abilities to properly use words and to have an original thought.

I suppose there are guys who want stupid women. They're stupid themselves, or incredibly insecure.

[xmas74]

93. The poster is in high school.

Incredibly insecure is the key there.

[Ava]

101. the poster originally started this thread as a "spoof" of another

i can't believe everyone got this worked up.

btw, i'm not insecure. i personally don't like guys my age anyways since they are all immature.


i can't believe everyone is this worked up over a lounge thread :rofl:

[xmas74]

102. That's what I was referring to.

Most boys your age are very insecure, as are most girls. Boys that age tend to not want to date anyone that might "show them up" in any way.

It's the age more than anything. It'll get better as you get older.

[Ava]

105. ok, thanks for the advice.

to be honest, i don't really go around "looking for guys." when i was in school(i homeschool now) i hung around with the "popular" crowd, but the guys i liked were always the "quiet nerdy" guys who had great personalities, but stayed off to themselves. those guys i could be great friends with, but none of them seemed interested in actually going out with me. i am still good friends with a lot of them now.

[Cos]

167. Are you sure?

I bet some of them probably were interested, but too scared or shy to do anything about it, or just didn't know how to. Dating is a habit. If you're not used to it, you may not know how to get started. If there were any of them you were interested in, just how big of a clue-by-four did you bonk them over the head with? To get through to a nerdy high school boy that it's okay for them to ask you out or kiss you or something like that, can take a mighty big whack.

When I was a nerdy junior high school boy, years ago, a girl I had a crush on kissed me on the mouth - she just got up from her table when the substitute teacher was out for a few minutes, walked over to mine, kissed me totally by surprise, then went back to her seat. It still didn't occur to me that maybe, just maybe, that might mean she was attracted. My best guess was that she was teasing me, but mostly I was baffled.

That's the sort of cluelessness you have to put up with when dealing with nerdy young boys who haven't dated.

[Floogeldy]

8. This thread is degrading to all men and women.

It is premised on the assumptions that all women who attract men are dumb, and that all men are dumber than women.

[Ava]

11. "and that all men are dumber than women"

isn't that true though? ;) :P

[Ava]

9. let me re-phrase, why are young guys not attracted to smart girls?

I get hit on by guys but I swear, as soon as i actually open my mouth and talk about something besides make-up or gossip they walk away.

then again, i am in alabama with a bunch of idiots.

[Robeson]

10. Maybe they're not very smart?....

...:shrug:

[WCGreen]

12. You are young....

Men are not wise until they have put some distance between themselves and the basic instinct to sow their seed....

Usually around the age of 30....

In my humble opinion....

[Ava]

14. good lord

i've got a while then, lol.

[WCGreen]

33. Yes, enjoy these years....

They will be kind to you when you are older...

[JVS]

171. Oh, so you're too good to date 30 year olds, huh?

;-)

[Floogeldy]

15. I know what you mean.

When I was a young man, I wanted to spend most of my time talking about make-up. :*

[Ava]

16. no, but you wanted a girl who was "popular"

and didn't care about much besides popularity and appearance.

and if you didn't want a girl like that then you were very different than most young guys.


then again, it might just be a thing in the south.

[Giant Robot]

128. I gotta say when I was a young and in high school....

I really did not "want" any of the "popular" girls. The price of popularity was just too much for my limited social skills and anxieties.

[hfojvt]

131. I think your premise falls apart there

at least in my school.
There were nine students who made National Honor Society as juniors. 3 boys and 6 girls. Of the 6 girls, two of them were candidates for homecoming queen, and another was Cherry Prom queen and queen in her Freshman year. The other 3 candidates for homecoming queen all made National Honor Society in their senior year.
Contrary to the stereotype - the pretty and popular girls were not stupid. At least not if grades are a valid measure of intelligence.

[amitten]

36. Welcome to real life, darlin'. And no, it doesn't change when you

get older.

I don't know why, but even if you're very good-looking and intelligent, most men would rather you not be TOO smart. Many of them, even the liberals, on some level prefer a subordinate. :wtf:

[NNadir]

13. Because we're dumb guys;

[Heidi]

17. I've found that to be a myth,

even when I was younger. If you're a smart woman, why would you even _want_ to attract guys who aren't attracted to smart women? I mean, if they don't appreciate an important part of who you are, why waste a minute on them? :shrug: (And I'd say the same thing about women who aren't attracted to smart guys. Why waste your energy pining away over a woman just doesn't "get" you?)

[Floogeldy]

21. Being smart is an important part of who a woman is?

Oh. You mean after the six most important parts. I get it.

:evilgrin:

[Heidi]

24. Grrrr.

:spank:

[Ava]

18. here is my problem

i live in the south with a bunch of IDIOTS! lol

[Robeson]

20. As a fellow Southerner, I hear what you are saying Ava.....

...It's not that there aren't liberal intellectuals down here. In fact, those that are, are usually VERY liberal. It's just that the pool is not that big. But I will add, they are down here, so keep looking!

[northofdenali]

25. So does my daughter, Ava - you two are about

the same age, and she also lives in Alabama. Is dating a nice guy but he isn't "IT" - she agrees with you, they're idiots!!

I keep telling her to move.........

[GrpCaptMandrake]

119. Ava, take comfort in the fact that it's not a function of the era

But the area.

As a guy, I went through the same-thing-only-different growing up in Alabama thirty years ago. I guess it's worse for you, though, given the "southern belle" culture and all the freight that carries.

Here's a hint, just the same: the odds are that he's not on the football, baseball or basketball teams just as in my day she wasn't likely to be a cheerleader, or in church. The guys whose company you'll enjoy are much more likely to be writing for the school paper, in the A/V club, Thespian Society, Young Democrats or some such. I know you're home-schooled, but just sayin'.

Best of luck! I'm sure you're gearing toward not going to college in Alabama, which is the one way you'll best find out that a lot of what you're talking about is cultural.

It's hard being an intelligent young person. It's even harder being an intelligent young person in the Deep South. The system is distinctly geared away from you.

[BreweryYardRat]

19. Some of us are.

I tend to much prefer smart chicks.

Yes, I'm aware that's horrible grammar and probably ironic. I don't care. Gonna go sleep for 12 hours or so.

[WeRQ4U]

22. Being stupid is as attractive as a forehead nipple.

It's just something you can't overcome.

[amitten]

37. Quit making fun of my nipple. n/t

[no name no slogan]

65. mmmmm.... forehead nipples...

Is that why Mark Knopfler always wears a headband?

[IChing]

23. Because the eyes are the witness to your soul

[ZombieNixon]

26. I am.

I'd rather not talk about makeup and gossip if it's quite all right, but I'd also rather not be manipulated and played around with like a violin. Not that all smart girls are like this, of course, just the ones I'm attracted to, apparently. :banghead:

Why can't I like some *nice* people for a change?! :grr:

[liontamer]

27. What makes you think they're not

if you're young, you probably are intimidating a lot of guys, but that doesn't mean they don't find you attractive. Trust me, when you go back for reunions they'll all tell you how much they always liked you but didnt't think they were in your league.

[Ava]

29. i know several guys that think i'm "pretty"

or whatever you want to call it. but i seems as soon as i open my mouth and actually carry on a real discussion they don't talk to me anymore.


maybe i should just start weaking gobs of makeup, short skirts, and keep my mouth shut except for the occasional "oh my gawd" or "whateva."

:rant:

[amitten]

38. That's a start. And if you can keep it up for a lifetime, you can be

a happily kept woman.

Kept by what is another story.

[Derailer]

46. OK, guys are not per se attracted to the girls you are referring to

yes, they tend to be dumb but their defining characteristic is how unbelievably self-absorbed they are. Trust me, every guy gets tired of some air head bimbo who never shuts up ever.

The reason the guys are "attracted" to them is they are *EASY*

And really, thats the answer to your whole thread right there. It has nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with putting out.

EDIT: and no I'm not implying anything about being dumb and being promiscuous. Nor am I implying that brainy chicks tend to be prudes. Sometimes its just as easy to get a smart chick in bed...sometimes

[Patiod]

61. True story

Got bad laryngitis once, and still went out bar-hopping with my friend who lived in D.C. Ended up giving TWO guys my business card - and one was so smitten he wrote to me, inviting me to visit his big farm or whatever in Virgina (didn't respond to either of them, since I live a couple hours north)

I NEVER got that far when I was able to speak!!!

Made me thing - maybe smiling and nodding a lot was the true secret to success! (that and a black leather miniskirt).

Seriously, though - it's all where you go fishing. If you get involved in things that attract smart guys, you're going to up the odds that they find smart girls attractive. Theater, politics, science-related interests, anything considered "geeky".

[LiberalEsto]

73. Could it be the voice?

I'm 54, married and not much to look at. But as a tech writer, I make a lot of phone calls to engineering types, and find that men seem to like my voice.
Ask a few trusted friends for an honest opinion. If people think the tone, pitch, speed or accent could use some work, this is something you can change.
Another thought - everybody, male and female, enjoys being with people who listen well. Could it be that when you had laryngitis, the men found you a great listener? Being able to really listen to people is a valuable life skill, and doesn't indicate a lack of intelligence.
Listening skills include focusing on the speaker, not looking around the room, making an occasional nod or sound to indicate that you're paying attention, and being able to reflect back what the person tells you, instead of heading off on a different subject.

[Patiod]

79. Definitely the listening skills

It's not the voice - I'm hyper aware of that, since I had polyps on the vocal chords in college, and went through extensive speech therapy to correct it. Plus I got rid (or at least mitigated) my Philadelphia accent with additional speech therapy at the same time. So it wasn't the voice. (Sadly, it was BETTER before the speech therapy, men LOVED my hoarse voice, which sounded like Susan St. James. Afterwards, it was no longer distinct and sexy) But you are right on the mark - most people are totally unaware of how they sound.

Listening was definitely the key -- although I'm paid to listen now as a focus group moderator, (including the nodding, reflecting, total focus on the respondent, plus body language and phrases to get people to elaborate further) I was a chatterbox back in my barhopping days. Being forced to do 100% of the listening and 0% talking was probably a big part of the appealn of the laryngitis (although I'm not counting out the miniskirt)

[GrpCaptMandrake]

121. Jimmy Buffett (an Alabamian like Ava)

said it best:

"I'm lookin' for a smart woman
in a real short skirt.
Smart woman who knows
how to flirt.
Smart woman, got a mind of her own;
smart woman, wants to take me home . . .
take me home."

So no, don't discount the skirt!

:hi:

[Patiod]

129. that's one of this Parrothead's favorite songs!!

sort of my anthem (along with "Fruitcakes")

[GrpCaptMandrake]

130. Me, I'm just waiting

for the Gulf Coast to recover.

Really need to make a trip to the FloraBama Lounge.

Who knew you were a parrothead? Cool! :hi:

[miss_american_pie]

62. Or you could hold out for a nicer guy?

Don't ever deny who you are for someone else. :hug:

[GrpCaptMandrake]

120. You're posting here

I can only imagine the looks of horror and "Joe Bob, I thank her's got her two haids" or some such that probably runs through the "mind" of the average Alabama boy when you start talking about stuff that *really* matters.

After all, you're in a place where a whole, whole lot of people don't think George Bush follows Christ. They think he *is* Christ.

[JohnKleeb]

28. uh in my case its fear

I am uhh what is it social inept, yeah.

[last_texas_dem]

76. Hey, that's me, too

It's not that I'm not *attracted* to smart girls, it's just that I'm not any better at approaching them than I am at approaching less-than-smart girls.

[windy252]

83. me three

I'm very nervous about approaching women. I tried to find a club where I could do that, but all I got when looking for singles was businesses for shingles.

[NewJeffCT]

81. agreed, when I was that age

I could have had a girl give me her phone number & tell me to call her and I'd still be unsure.

[Ava]

30. hmmm, i wonder how many people have me on ignore now

since i've pissed off at least half of the men in the lounge :rofl:

[ZombieNixon]

32. Not me.

I only responded to this thread because I'm pissed off with a certain girl, who, while definitely intelligent, is also psychotic and manipulative and seems to delight in screwing with my head, yet I keep going back for more. :grr: I needed some place to vent a little. It's keeping me awake.

[Random_Australian]

47. Not me.

I've no theory about this yet though. As opposed to the nerd one.

[amitten]

31. Every time I see a huge diamond wedding ring, it inevitably is on

the hand of a woman with a substandard IQ.

Dumb women (even ugly ones) attract more men. What's worse is that they attract all the rich ones.

[EstimatedProphet]

51. That's not exactly true

Dumb, BUXOM women attract rich men, because men like that want trophies to show off. But I've seen a lot of dumb women that will never be in that place, because they're not eye candy.

[amitten]

116. No, buxom is not the key. Pretty is not the key. Dumb is the key.

I wish I'd seen more proof otherwise.

[REP]

34. The Smart, Gorgeous, Financially-Secure Ones Are

I have one. He thinks I'm smart. I do score in the millionth percentile...

[Random_Australian]

35. I like smart women! Or at least women who you can freaking talk

to.

[LSdemocrat]

39. You could try hitting on smart guys

Many of us are rather shy and are quite attracted to smart women, but never really learned how to initiate a relationship.

[DanCa]

40. I am I like all kinds of girls.

I like big ones small ones round ones short ones. Do I dig that girl. Do I dig that girl.

[BikeWriter]

41. Sweety, every girl I've ever "gotten lucky" with was brilliant!

:shrug:

[LouisianaLiberal]

42. Deleted message.

[Omphaloskepsis]

43. Why aren't attractive girls smart?

Same bullshit question with the same bullshit answer. God damn the bad boy shit is tedious when it rolls around every other week.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

44. I am.

:shrug:

[Elnendil Taramon]

45. Not all guys.

I like smart girls because I dont go for looks. Always know who they are and how their personality fits, and to me, I love a smart woman. I HATE the popular girls mainly because most of them act stupid, and thus are stupid.

Here's something a prep said last year:

Teacher: Well, today we're going to look into the outcome of the Civil War and how it affected America.
Prep: Wait a minute....WE HAD A CIVIL WAR?!



Also, she thought a Hydrometer was a washing machine.

[Heidi]

49. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[windy252]

91. In the past, I would've said no way,

no one could be that dumb. After the past 5 years however, I weep for our country. :cry:

[Elnendil Taramon]

100. Um...

I think you guys totally took it the wrong way.

I check personalities before looks, I didnt say looks sucked.

[windy252]

103. I think you misunderstood me.

I was talking about a post where someone didn't know there was a civil war.

[Scout1071]

98. "I like smart girls because I dont go for looks."

Huh? Smart women are beautiful too.

Geesh.

[Swamp Rat]

48. I am totally smitten with these smart girls!

:D



...well, they are DRESSED smart! ;)

[EstimatedProphet]

50. Some are

Myself, for instance

[nickgutierrez]

52. We aren't?

Well... I am.

:hi:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

53. I'm very attracted to smart girls, especially if they have glasses.

I'm a girl though. I actually even have a shirt that says "Reading is Sexy" and another that says "Nerdy Girls Make Me Hot." I still need to order the one that has a picture of Shakespeare with the caption "Prose before Ho's."

[alarcojon]

54. I've ALWAYS been attracted to intelligent women

especially those with unique, quirky personalities, including the nerdy glasses.

And I married a fellow PhD. No insecurities about an intelligent woman here.

I do hear where you're coming from, though. Hope your luck changes.

[Wetzelbill]

134. hey at least this wasn't a

"Why do women only like bad boys" thread. :rofl:

[Orsino]

56. Dunno. I sure am.

Brainy chicks are the hottest.

[distantearlywarning]

57. My husband says he's a "brain man".

He has little tolerance for stupid, and I can't imagine him ever, ever dating an airhead bimbo type. And he married me (a Ph.D. student, geeky, was in gifted class in elementary school, intellectual "elitist" and all of that).

Only stupid insecure guys are really interested in stupid girls. And you don't want one of them anyway. I know of which I speak because before my husband I was living with a man who was extremely threatened by the "smart" things about me. He used to make fun of me for reading, for instance, and would pick fights if I accidentally started discussing something that he didn't happen to know about. That guy eventually turned out to be emotionally and physically abusive, and I left after he threw me into a wall and destroyed some of my stuff.

[mdmc]

58. move out of 'bama

but even in the deepest of the south, I suspect that there is a young Jimmy Carter out there willing to listen to your liberal rants. Peace and low stress.

[fortyfeetunder]

59. I think it's a question of maturity

My own observation: mature men do look for women who are at least an intellectual equal if they are looking for more than a physical relationship.

[In_The_Wind]

60. Because we frighten them.

An insecure man has trouble being with a self assured intelligent woman. If the woman/girl is really smart, she'll find ways to put him at ease.


:hi:

[GOPisEvil]

63. A lot of men are insecure.

They can't stand to be made to sound uneducated by a woman.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

64. If you're still in high school, there are probably smart guys there, but..

they're hiding out from the jocks and spoiled rich kids so as not to get beaten up. Or pretending to be jocks or spoiled rich kids so as not to get beaten up.

[no name no slogan]

67. Hey, I didn't know we went to HS together

Heh! That's pretty much what I did all through HS: hid out with the stoners, pretended I liked cars, and (unfortunately) abused a lot of drugs and booze. Thank the gods for college.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

66. Because young guys are asses ruled by their sperm counts.

Total fucking idiots 'round my town. :grr:

Does it ever get any better?

:shrug:

[Odin2005]

68. I like smart chicks.

I'd like an SO who I can have an intelligent discussion with.

[barb162]

92. then you can never use the word "Chick"

[Misunderestimator]

69. Judging by the posts you've made to your own OP...

it seems you're trying to piss off southerners as well as men, eh?

"let me re-phrase, why are young guys not attracted to smart girls? I get hit on by guys but I swear, as soon as i actually open my mouth and talk about something besides make-up or gossip they walk away. then again, i am in alabama with a bunch of idiots."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=4999845&mesg_id=4999946

"here is my problem; i live in the south with a bunch of IDIOTS! lol"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=4999845&mesg_id=4999981

"hmmm, i wonder how many people have me on ignore now; since i've pissed off at least half of the men in the lounge"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=4999845&mesg_id=5000135

[Radical Activist]

77. This reminds me of living in the South.

I'm from the North but lived in the South for a couple years. I really like Southern girls with Southern accents, but I spent more time dating women not from the South because they were all sick of redneck guys with accents that they thought sounded stupid. I guess I was one of the few guys around without much of an accent that also had some ambition and intelligence, so the Northern girls who didn't like Southern guys were always after me.

[Maddy McCall]

84. I think you may be on to something.

Yeah, no matter what region of the US you're in, it doesn't fare well in the local dating pool when you muddy it with insults of the very people you want to date.

:thumbsup:

[Ava]

106. i was born and raised in the south, and yes, i dont like it here

i don't go around saying this to people here.

that's the wonderful thing about the "internets"

:P

[Zomby Woof]

110. Go Ava!

That is the way to stand up for yourself. :thumbsup:

Although I was born here in CA, I grew up in the south, and I know what you mean! Get out of there the first chance you get.

And don't let the bullies win. :D

[Misunderestimator]

125. Bullies? LOL

[Misunderestimator]

124. I was born and raised in the south as well.

And there are a LOT of southern men on DU. So, it's not like you're not saying it to some southern men. Another wonderful thing about the "internets."

[Nikia]

70. One of my male friends in high school told me

"We want to a girl's hero, not the other way around. A guy does not want to be less intelligent and less accomplished than his girlfriend. He does not want to feel inferior to her"
I suppose that's why I decided to go to a college that was competitive, where there were a lot of intelligent and accomplished people. Well not just that, I guess.

[bettyellen]

71. in ten years you'll realize YOU were an idiot with awful taste in men and

you let a few good ones get past you. you will then stop doing it.
book smart isn't life smart,

[Wapsie B]

72. We are!!

Give me a smart artistic woman and I'll be in heaven.

[Radical Activist]

74. Insecurity.

And stupidity.
I, on the other hand, am very attracted to women I can have intelligent conversations with.

[jeff30997]

75. What?

I love smart girls!I can't stand bimbos!

[twenty2strings]

78. I married one!

She's never boring,always fun and a sex goddess. So there.:bounce:

[Redstone]

80. I am.

Redstone

[ghostsofgiants]

82. Why don't smart girls ever reciprocate my attraction?

Ahh, the mysteries of life.

[GirlinContempt]

104. I do too!

:P

[ghostsofgiants]

108. Touché.

[supernova]

85. If I knew the answer to that

I'd be in a relationship right now. :shrug:

[LeftyMom]

86. Once they grow up the good ones are. nt

[Zomby Woof]

87. I am marrying one of the smartest women ever

Next question, please. :-)

[Maddy McCall]

97. Well you're taking damned long enough!

:hi: Wish y'all'd just go ahead and hitch it!

:7

[NewJeffCT]

88. my wife has 2 master's degrees

and 2 undergraduate degrees. And, I think she is gorgeous & sexy and very smart.

[Wetzelbill]

133. lucky sonuva.....

:)

[NewJeffCT]

143. I know, I pinch myself a lot

and think what a lucky guy I am...

Unfortunately, one of the cousins I had mentioned to you a while back is not coming to college in the US in the near future.

[Crazy Dave]

90. Sez who?!?

Beauty and brains are a wonderful combination. I love a woman who can talk dirty in three syllable words.

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

172. I was just wondering about you Dave. Haven't seen you in a while

[debbierlus]

94. That isn't true!

My husband wouldn't be with me, if I wasn't his intellectual equal.

He demands way more then a pretty face. He would be bored to tears with a piece of eye candy.

And, so would I!

You are just hanging around the wrong guys!

[xmas74]

95. My best advice to you is to look in different places.

We've all done it. We've all gazed at the most popular boy in school, the rebel, the jock and wanted him. Chances are he's not the right one and will never be the right one for you.

Are you looking for someone right now? Look around at the smaller clubs at your school. Look at Drama, Strategy and Tactics, Debate, Chess, Science and Computer clubs. There are many guys there who would gladly date an intelligent young woman, especially if she cleans up as well as you do in your pictures. Take a look at the guys in votech classes. Many are smart enough that they are looking for a career right out of high school and want the training for it right now. Compared to the rest of us they don't feel that they have time to waste and have already found something they are interested in.

Myself, I never gave the guys in FFA a chance. Looking back I realize that I was an idiot. From the outside they seem rough and unintelligent. Now I realize that most were very sweet and extremely smart. They are usually gentlemen who don't demand more than you want to give and most come from families where hard work, both in labor and in school, is respected. And the biggest secret of all about the FFA guys: Most are more liberal then you would think. Most don't even realize that they are liberal, at least in some areas.

Farmers tend to be in favor of conservation (to an extent) and in favor of ecology. They tend to hate big business(remember, they are fighting megafarms), they want to learn how to farm to preserve their land instead of strip it and many are in favor of alternate fuel sources (there's money in ethanol). And most farmers are in favor of animal cruelty laws. Yes, they may be ranchers or pig or chicken farmers but most believe in treating the animal in a cruelty-free environment.

Just look for guys in other places. They are out there.

[sakabatou]

96. Well that's true of shallow men...

[Kellanved]

99. Uhm ... we are.

:shrug:

You made that observation where?

[windy252]

107. To seriously answer this question, though,

it can be shallowness and some of us are afraid we'll be treated like we're dumb. It's still embarassing, even if we are.

[CanuckAmok]

109. I am!

Of course, they also have to have stellar racks and legs to ya-ya.

[pitohui]

111. they are EOM

.

[jukes]

118. jukes LOVES

smart girls.

it's nice to have a conversation in between...

[kid a]

122. I was a young guy once - love the brain!

My better half for 18 years is definitely the brains of the fam, she can't figure out the remote, but she can read an ECG, diagnose prolonged QT syndrome, dictate 15 charts and be home by 5:30 - I, on the other hand, not too bright, but can play a hell of a fiddle!
Guys like brains!

[MissMillie]

123. I'm surprised this thread has even survived this long.

Direct from the rules page:

"Do not post broad-brush, bigoted statements."

[Guava Jelly]

126. it's a catch 22

The guys attracted to the smart ladies aren't normally the ones they want attracted to them.
I think brainy girls are hot as hell.
specially if they wear those lisa lobe dark framed glasses yowza.

But on that note Why aren't girls attracted to nice guys??

[Left_Winger]

127. I am

[Wetzelbill]

132. oh I loooooooove smart women

that's a must for me. The problem is, although I love smart women, that usually means they are too smart to go out with me. :( Something about seeing right through me and all. :)

[enigmatic]

135. I've got a smart women for you!

unfortunately for you, she's married to me!:)

[Wetzelbill]

136. I thought you had me set up

with someone for a second there. :) Curses!

I am actually sort of seeing a smart someone right now. We'll see if she can survive my idiosyncratic nature. I weaseled out of a date with her one night a few weeks ago because I didn't want to miss Smackdown. That's fucked up I know. But, I just can't miss pro wrestling you know? :)

[enigmatic]

138. Ouch

And Mr. Kennedy isn't even back yet!:)

I'm so lucky; I know I'm a touch (well, more than a touch) "eccentric" myself and Mrs. E finds it endearing rather than strange, I guess. You'll find that woman who embraces yours, too...

[Wetzelbill]

139. hey I was nice about it though

I said I had "family obligations." She had tickets for a play and I knew one of her friends wanted to go too, so I sacrificed myself so her friend could take my place. That and pro wrestling is the shit, so you know how that goes.

Oh, I'm a total loner type. People don't fully grasp that because I'm funny and so on, but I'd rather chill by myself than do just about anything. I find I don't keep in touch with people like I should, as a result.

Endearing? Man, it would be nice to find someone who thinks me being a bizarre weirdo is endearing.... that'd be cool.

Mr. Kennedy should be back any week now right?

Hey, do you watch TNA? The monster Abyss - obvious Kane and Mankind ripoff- does this finishing move where he picks a guy up in a torture rack and comes down almost like a Samoan Drop. I invented that move over ten years ago! When I first saw that fucker do that, I nearly fainted. I've been so pissed for the last two months. Damn him for stealing my move. At least nobody has ever done the Spiderweb Deathlock that I invented. It's a weird version of an STF, much like an amateur wrestling move called the Turk. It's badass. I still have that anyway. :)

[enigmatic]

140. I love TNA

Samoa Joe is the shit, and the future of wrestling, IMO. And if he were in the WWE he'd never get a push solely because of his look, even though he's better than 90 percent of the wrestlers on pure ability alone. Abyss
is indeed the lovechild of Kane and Mankind; supposedly Sting lists him as one of his favorites, which is a shock to me; I would have never figured...

I love AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels, too; The X division is the best thing going in wrestling right now. Cant' stand Jeff Jarrett, though...

And this:

"Oh, I'm a total loner type. People don't fully grasp that because I'm funny and so on, but I'd rather chill by myself than do just about anything. I find I don't keep in touch with people like I should, as a result."

Could have been written by me; it's scary how alike we are..

[Wetzelbill]

141. well, yeah, we are brothers

:)

Oh Samoa Joe! The guy is awesome, he's my favorite TNA guy. He has the coolest finishing moves. AJ Styles has a really cool finisher too. TNA seems like they allow their guys to do crazier stuff and more explosive moves. I always tease my brother, the cage fighter, and say stuff like "So, who do you think would win in the Octagon, Samoa Joe or (UFC Light Heavyweight Champion) Chuck Liddell?" Hahaha

It cracks him up at the thought of a pro wrestler fighting in a regular fight, although in the Pride Fighting in Japan they get pro wrestlers that fight. I remember this one Japanese pro wrestler, some legend I can't remember offhand, fought one of the Gracies, I think Rickson. The Gracie family are the most badass jiu-jitsu competitors ever and, Rickson Gracie might be the best, so anyway, he and this pro wrestler are really tangling and the guy is giving a helluva account of himself. He gets Rickson down to the ground and is pummelling him when all of a sudden he goes for a monkey flip, lol. Out of nowwhere in a real effing fight this pro wrestler tries some pro wrestling move on one of the best fighters ever, haha. Needless to say it didn't work, it actually cost him the fight as he got submitted a short time later. It was great though.

[Peter Frank]

137. I Don't Like Smart Girls...

...but I love wise women (smart girls become wise women). It's the wisdom curve for me.

[wickerwoman]

142. I think a lot of teenage guys

buy into the fairy tales too much. Their vision of love is riding in on the white horse or saving the girl from the Kraken. When they don't know much about women, the best in they can think of is helping her out with something she can't do- lifting a heavy box, or helping her program her VCR. Stupid girls need more help, so they're easier to meet.

It's not that they aren't attracted to smart girls- it's that they don't know how to meet them. As they get older, more confident and more interesting they develop better ways to meet the smart girls and hence seem more attracted to them.

My theory anyway. :shrug:

[Iniquitous Bunny]

144. Smart men like smart women.

Dumb guys like dumb girls.

I've gotten hit on by plenty of stupid men because they think they like the package and could care less about the more important stuff. I find with smarter men I've had to drop bigger hints sometimes. Fortunately, I've had a number of important relationships in life- all with very unique and intelligent men (who might like the package, but stay for more important reasons). I'm sure you will as well. It's human nature. You'll probably even get your heart really broken a few times before you meet the right person.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

145. I am.

Speaking as a man who dumped a dumb semi-pro-cheerleader for a short and round smart woman, I think your way over-generalizing.

[Skinner]

146. I'm a big fan of smart women.

So much so that I married one.

[XemaSab]

148. And smart women are a big fan of you, sir!

:patriot:

[realisticphish]

147. It's all about populations

Smart girls, and smart guys, are both pretty much a minority. Since people generally want to be with someone who is equal to them intellectually (not that "opposites attract" stuff), the pools for smart guys and smart girls are both pretty small. The problem is finding out who is actually smart. There were popular, attractive girls in high school that got really good grades, but when they got to college... :shrug: suddenly being popular and attractive didn't help you out with class, like it did in high school.

[TheBaldyMan]

149. We are, if you have a hot body as well that's a bonus.

:evilgrin:

[Vividqueen]

150. Oh, Please. I am smart and never without a man or several

I have always had them running around me and it had nothing to do with whether or not I had brains. Maybe it has to do with your other attributes. I had a ball through high school and college. College men certainly respected someone with brains.

Perhaps you should seek to improve your self-esteem and self-confidence. I think most people are attracted to others who are secure with who they are. By no means am perfect, but you have to take risks to gain the rewards.

BTW, I had academic scholarships all across the country and several sports ones as well. So I was not some pasty-faced brainiac.

[Spider Jerusalem]

151. I'm not capable of feeling real attraction to girls who AREN'T smart.

But then I'm not 'normal' (whatever that means)

[leftofthedial]

152. because all girls are attracted to bad guys

seriously, smart and funny are at the top of my list


(along with big um, never mind)

[GirlinContempt]

153. Because most girls who're fixated on being smart are annoying as hell

Or fixated on being 'hot', or fixated on being anything.

[ghostsofgiants]

154. Your lack of fixation on things is very alluring indeed.

[GirlinContempt]

155. I'm fixated on teasing you in public

That doesn't count?

[ghostsofgiants]

157. You're a paradox with a septum ring.

[GirlinContempt]

158. And I talk to you

So you'll excuse my flaws
:o

See with the public teasin? :P

[JVS]

168. I can think of a few fixations that wouldn't be annoying

;-)

[MrScorpio]

156. Thats not true at all

I mean it

[Random_Australian]

159. Is this the new kudzu? n/t

[progmom]

163. yeah, no kidding

i had hoped this one would finally go away. looks like someone kicked it. :eyes:

[tjdee]

160. Sex, Food, and Silence.

No one has said that yet??

[JVS]

169. Are you telling me that these three things can be had at once?

What is the source of this miraculous blessing?

[saltpoint]

161. Many are. John Kerry for one. John Edwards for another.

Sting. Ted Turner. Whoever's married to Christiane Amanpour.

They're out there.

[billyskank]

162. If you're smart then you're in that smallish percentile

People like people like themselves. If you're smart then the set of guys who are of like mind are also a smallish percentile.

Stop looking at the jocks and start looking at the nerds.

I know, the nerds aren't much fun to look at. But there's a secret here. The nerds usually improve with age, while the jocks usually don't.

:P

[DS1]

164. Maybe they just aren't attracted to you.

:shrug:

[JVS]

165. Why is intelligence considered to be a loftier gift than beauty?

Is intelligence really any better a measure of someone's value than looks? If so, why?

[pitohui]

166. because money grubbing is all?

and if you are intelligent then perhaps you are presumed to have an advantage in the race to grab the most money?

don't really know, just guessing here really

intelligence, like beauty, fades, and it seems to me that the decline in one's ability to learn and retain new information is particularly frustrating when it starts to go if you are used to being intelligent, i suppose average or stupid people don't notice anything in their 40s since they never remembered anything to begin with, but it's just as frustrating as the slow decline of one's looks if you ask me and there's no botox for the mind

anything good is impermanent, people admit beauty fades but don't admit that a lot of older people are off their game, so they sort of falsely weigh the scale in favor of brain over brawn

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

170. I like alot of smart women, but alot of the time, smart ones

are loud, know-it-all, and talk too much. I can't deal with that kind of person, whether its a guy or girl. They make both me and baby Jesus cry in pain.

[AccessGranted]

173. I Believe That . . .

Exceptionally intelligent men are attracted to intelligent women. Shallow men who are not the intellectual type may normally choose looks over substance. I think that most intelligent men like a woman that they can conversate with and present to their friends, family and colleagues proudly. They are smart enough to know that attaction based on appearance does not last very long. The novelty of arm candy wears off very quickly.

[no name no slogan]

174. I like smart girls as long as

they got a huge rack, and a nice butt :hide:

[DBoon]

175. I've always found smart girls incredibly attractive

I don't know why there should be a problem.

On edit: Especially my very intelligent wife (who is looking over my shoulder right now...)