I heard there's a subliminal message in the Disney movie "Aladdin"

[sasquatch]

I heard that in this one seen there's a message that says "All teenage girls take their clothes off".
Could someone post it please?

[RebelOne]

1. Nope, I haven't seen the scene. n/t

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2. Yes, its there

But there are some in all Disney movies. There is also a lot of symbolism in the movies.

[kay1864]

3. Sorry, no it's not there...

(nor is there "some in all Disney movies")

http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/aladdin.htm

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5. When I was in fifth grade

I was at a friends house and she said, some in here and check this out. She played the part in Aladdin where Genie is a been and Aladdin is trying to get Jasmine on the Majic carpet. All I could here was "take of ... clothes." But I heard it with my own ears.

There is hidden things in a lot of Disney movies. There is one that reveals a lot of my sororites secret stuff.

[kay1864]

7. If you go to the snopes link...

You can hear it with your own ears now. At regular speed and slow-mo.

From snopes:

Whatever is being said, to the casual listener the resulting phrase can certainly sound like the "Good teenagers, take off your clothes," although the phrase is clearly the combination of two different voices speaking in two different tones.

Once people have been told what they're "supposed" to be hearing, however, they find it difficult to maintain objectivity and therefore swear that Aladdin couldn't possibly be saying anything else.

People hear what they expect to hear (especially if they're 10 years old, and hearing about it from their friends). It could be "Take off and go" like Disney says, but what is undeniable is that IT'S UNCLEAR.

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19. When diney re-releases

movies, they take those things out.

[kay1864]

30. Actually, no

If you go to the snopes link, it's the soundbite from the movie. It's still in the movie.

[ThomCat]

51. Please check your spelling.

That post was painful to read.

[Shell Beau]

6. But, there is no denying the penis on The Little Mermaid

cover and the poster flashing boobs in Feivel (or one of those movies)

[Misunderestimator]

8. Whaaaaaa? A penis in The Little Mermaid??

:rofl:

[Shell Beau]

9. I actually have it!

On the cover of the original VCR tape box, the tip of the golden castle is actually a golden penis! :o Wouldn't believe it myself if I didn't have it. They, of course, later changed the cover. There is also a part in the movie where the mermaid is marrying the prince and the minister's pants poke out in a certain area like he is excited!! :evilgrin:
Bad Bad Disney!!!

[kay1864]

12. That Little Mermaid minister...

It's actually his knee poking out, not his groin.

http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/minister.htm

[Shell Beau]

13. Yeah, okay! It's in the eye of the beholder!

[kay1864]

15. OK, then behold and decide...

Two frames of the same scene (from snopes of course)

The minister is dressed as a bishop (wearing a tunic and tights) in this scene, and the triangular bulge claimed to be an "erection" is actually his knee sticking out from under the tunic. The minister's bandy legs and the blending of the tunic and tights make it difficult to distinguish his knee in some frames, although it is clearly visible in others.

[Shell Beau]

16. That could be to save their asses! When you watch it, you don't

slow it down. You see what appears to be an erection.

[kay1864]

17. "Save their asses"?

So you're saying that

1. Disney realized there was an erection in the movie
2. So they added later frames (or altered them) to make it look like the erection was a knee
3. But then they left in the original erection, since their asses were now covered

:wtf:

I like the Occam's Razor version better:
1. The animators drew the minister with bandy knees
2. In one frame his knee looks (to some beholders) like an erection (but you CAN see the line of the tunic above it)
3. In later frames his knee looks like a knee
4. Fundies watching it frame-by-frame get all excited, and file lawsuits (yes, this really happened)

[Shell Beau]

18. I think they add shit in their movies or they used to!

I have seen far too many instances to believe otherwise. I have read all of the snopes stuff also.

[LostinVA]

38. Me too!

[trackfan]

52. I remember that - my niece had the video

Done by "a disgruntled animator"

[kay1864]

10. The "penis tower" was an accident, the boobs frame was on purpose

All of this is on snopes, fun reading: http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/films.asp

Claim: One of the castle spires on the cover of Disney's The Little Mermaid home video was deliberately drawn as a phallus by a disgruntled artist.
Status: False.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/mermaid.htm

Claim: The photographic image of a topless woman can be spotted in the background of The Rescuers.
Status: True.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/rescuers.htm

Bottom line? There's no sex conspiracy at Disney. Disney animators and film editors, however, are a playful lot, no doubt.

[Shell Beau]

11. I don't care why it is or isn't there, but the penis is there and it is

clearly a penis! I have the box to prove it!

[kay1864]

14. I don't doubt you at all...

However, it does appear to have been an accident, rather than deliberate action on Disney's part (otherwise the artist would have been fired!).

[progmom]

20. sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

there's a water tower down the road that everyone thinks looks like a penis:



lots and lots and lots of things look like penises if you really want them to. :shrug:

[Shell Beau]

21. It didn't look like a penis, it WAS a penis.

They changed the cover b/c of it. It is undeniably a penis.

[progmom]

22. I posted the picture in my post

Yeah - that could be interpreted as a penis. My point was that lots of things can be.

[Shell Beau]

23. The pic didn't show up! But, I don't see how it could

be interpreted as anything else. And why would they remove it if it weren't? I get what you are saying, but to me, that is a penis and nothing else. Yeah, I see the tower you posted and that could be interpreted as looking like a penis, but that is open to interpretation. The Disney one, IMO, isn't! :shrug:












:)

[progmom]

25. here you go

I saved the Disney one to my photobucket account.

I am not unfamiliar with penises, so I'm still going to argue that this is open to interpretation. ;)

[Misunderestimator]

27. Looks like a column to me.

I'd feel kinda sorry for a guy with a penis head that did that twisting thingy :o

[ghostsofgiants]

29. They would remove it because people were interpreting it as a penis...

And apparently very adamant in asserting that it can't be anything else.

Wait, why the hell am I jumping into this ridiculous discussion?

[kay1864]

34. I agree with you ShellBeau...

It definitely looks very much like a penis, and Disney definitely changed its appearance because of the controversy. Note that said controversy arose <snort> a long time after the movie poster--which had the very same column. So it almost certainly wasn't a deliberate decision on Disney's part, but rather an oversight--they don't need that kind of attention (anything that might affect ticket sales, you know...)

However, per the artist, it wasn't intentionally a penis on his part, but rather a 4 am accident. Now he could be lying so that he would get more work from Disney, but who knows? :shrug:

All I wanna know is...

where's Dr Ruth when we need her most?? :rofl:

[LostinVA]

39. No, I agree -- it was done on purpose

[progmom]

41. even though it's been debunked by snopes?

[LostinVA]

45. I saw the Michael Moore thing, too

[Misunderestimator]

42. Does it matter really? In the end it doesn't REALLY look like a penis.

Penises usually don't spiral down from the head to the base. :bounce:

[kay1864]

44. Maybe it's the funkiest vein ever..

or plastic surgery enhancement for "her added pleasure" :rofl:

(hey is this a sex thread yet? A Disney thread gets locked!! :bounce:)

[dpbrown]

47. And they're usually not gold and shimmery

Although maybe in a very special Star Trek episode...

[kay1864]

48. Or Jenna Jameson's nightstand...

I WILL get a Disney thread locked, I will, I will! :bounce:

[underpants]

31. That's not what M.Moore had on TV Nation (Nazis at Disneyland)

I think it was TV Nation-they had interviews with former Disney cartoonists (who are routinely fired after doing one project) and this one guy said that he was fired and they didn't lock him out of the computer system so he went back and added the penis tower. Another guy hated the security people standing over his shoulder so in some part of Disneyland he painted Nazi stormtroopers on a balcony.

[kay1864]

37. That sounds interesting...

Is there a web reference for that?

[CanuckAmok]

49. Disney Nazi

http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/dismural.htm

[kay1864]

50. Sorry, I should have been more specific...

I was referring to

this one guy said that he was fired and they didn't lock him out of the computer system so he went back and added the penis tower

Well, we already know that

this one guy said that he was fired

is totally false. The artist was not a Disney employee, and he wasn't fired (see snopes for details).

and

they didn't lock him out of the computer system so he went back and added the penis tower

This is suspect (if not false), since it was an independent artist, not a Disney employee.

So I'd really be interested in a TV Nation reference that backs this up.


But thanks for the snopes/Nazi reference. So it's not "stormtroopers" (plural), but rather one guy who may or may not be a Nazi, especially if you're not told that he is.

[deadparrot]

54. That is a good one.

The erection is supposedly the guy's knee (I think he's bending his knees to hop or something), but it never fails to crack me up.

[kay1864]

4. Not to mention that..

Subliminal messages are of dubious value anyway (if there were even one in Aladdin)

[ghostsofgiants]

24. Oh, how I wish I could recommend this thread.

[progmom]

26. penis penis penis

:thumbsup:

[ghostsofgiants]

28. Seriously. Herk boy's rofl in a pool of blood thread got, what, 19 votes?

While this one is relegated to utter obscurity with none? (Mind you I did recommend Herk boy's thread, haha.)

[progmom]

32. this is just sad

i say we petition the admins to see if we can get an extension on the thread recommendation time.

[ghostsofgiants]

33. Way ahead of you, progmom...

Way ahead of you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5017992&mesg_id=5017992

[kay1864]

35. You're kidding, right?

Can a Lounge thread be recommended? What happens then? It can't go on the front page, right?

(Wouldn't that be sumthin'? Aladdin penises and clothes-doffing teenagers, right up there with Iran bunker-busters and the Plame leak!)

[ghostsofgiants]

36. Sadly, lounge threads don't appear on the Greatest page.

But they can still be recommended, and I would definitely recommend this thread, haha.

[kay1864]

40. Well I must say...

I *do* like the standards for thread-recommendation here in the Lounge! :rofl:

So what happens? Does the thread then get a special icon in the Lounge?

[ghostsofgiants]

43. I like to recommend the really ridiculous shit, haha.

Sadly all it gets is a number greater than zero in the right hand column, but that's all it needs. The Lounge doesn't need any of that flashy attention whore crap.

[kay1864]

46. Maybe if we keep this up [snort]...

More Loungers will jump in to see what the fuss is about. Would it help if we mentioned kudzu?

[sasquatch]

53. Thanks Progmom