Last time I ever go in to GD

[JohnKleeb]

Christ allmighty.

[RevolutionaryActs]

1. You've said the before, yet you keep on going back.

:o

[JohnKleeb]

3. I actually did leave it once

[deadparrot]

2. It's like the apocalypse.

:scared:

[JohnKleeb]

4. I swear to god

People need to get a hold of their egos and stop being so hypocritical and focus on the real issues.

[Bassic]

55. I especially think that people over there

need to stop getting offended at the slightest perception of bigotry. God dammit, some of the posters over there just can't manage to think things through for themselves and adopt such ridiculously PC attitudes, iut boggles the mind.

Well, just a small rant to accompany yours.

[KitchenWitch]

5. Which threads?

I am curious.

[JohnKleeb]

6. check your PMs

[ZombieNixon]

7. I came in late. Where?

:popcorn:

[JohnKleeb]

8. check em

PMs.

[ZombieNixon]

9. My PMs?

Ain't got nothin'. :shrug:

Wait, never mind...got it.

[JohnKleeb]

10. did you get it?

I had to link and all that crap.

[ZombieNixon]

12. Yeah, got it.

Oy, vey...some people need a history lesson. Had I been alive 150 years ago, I would have most likely been a Republican. The political spectrum was completely different back then, and it's always changing. x(

[JohnKleeb]

14. Ain't that the truth man

My great great grandparents were Catholic immigrant Democrats back then but I think that was only because the Northern Democratic party didn't pander to anti Catholicism like the Republicans did but on the greater span of issues I like the Republican Party of 1860-1928 than I do the Democratic part of that same time period with some exceptions I admire WIlliam Jennings Byran.

[Heidi]

11. Don't give up on General Discussion, John.

Your voice is just as important as anyone else's. :hi:

[JohnKleeb]

13. I hate people with double standard bullshit

who refuse to realize history.

[Heidi]

15. I know.

I know. But don't give up, and don't let the button-pushers make you angry. Don't let 'em run you off. :thumbsup:

[JohnKleeb]

16. I am calming down

its aggrevating.

[SammyWinstonJack]

17. I like GD. It gets hairy at times, take the bad with the good.

:shrug:

[JohnKleeb]

19. I wish I felt the same way

[Heidi]

44. Same here.

You just have to go in there with the courage of your convictions, prepared to defend your views in a civil way, and refusing to be run off by folks who disagree. :shrug: I like General Discussion, and I think John brings a unique voice to that forum.

[JohnKleeb]

45. Thank ya

Well you know we all have unique perspectives because of our backgrounds, people we've met, places we've been, etc.

[Heidi]

46. I suspect that it's going to be bright and courageous young people

like you who save our country, just as it's your generation dying in Iraq. Anyone who scolds you for being a young person with an opinion ought to consider these facts.

[JohnKleeb]

49. They havent gone after my age

Its scary really reading the faces of the fallen, when I looked at it sunday I saw that a 18 year old had died. That really hit home for me because thats how I old I am. I just despise ignorant and indifference.

[KitchenWitch]

18. As you are already aware, I have been in there a lot tonight myself.

I think there are some good things to be gleaned, if one can sift through the hyperbole.

[JohnKleeb]

20. Yep

Its scary in there.

[BlueIris]

21. 'Kay, remember that time I posted that I wanted to see the Lounge axed?

Now I think that if we got rid of GD, things would be quite a bit calmer and more productive around here.

[JohnKleeb]

22. I dont remember that

I think you're right. I am sick of people cannibalizign good democrats read John Kerry, ignoring history, and being bigoted.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

23. YOU SAID WHAT?

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[enigmatic]

24. I'm at that point, frankly

It's like being pushed into a bottom-less vat of negative energy, and everytime I post there I regret it almost instantly.

Yes, there's some good, but not enough in my opnion to do anything more than pass by and coner your eyes.

And this is coming from someone who cut his teeth on USENET in the early 90's, when it was all-out anarchy.

[JohnKleeb]

25. I think I am looking for a fight tonight

I want it big time, yes I am a maschist.

[ZombieNixon]

26. A maschist?

Is that like a faschit? :P

[JohnKleeb]

28. shad up will ye

;) I can't spell

[ZombieNixon]

30. 's OK.

We're all a little cazy. :P

(I propagated "herk," remember?)

[JohnKleeb]

31. yeah but you didnt spell jerk wrong

that was your gal pal. I

[enigmatic]

27. Good luck, bro

And wear your slickers!:)

[JohnKleeb]

29. Thanks its amazing how intolerant some people are

I love getting in to fights when I feel like it though.

[ButterflyBlood]

32. I gave up on that place due to all the tinfoil nonsense

After hearing baseless claims that the CIA was behind the train bombing in Spain, the bombings in London, all the beheadings in Iraq, the bombing of the Shiite shrine in Iraq to deliberately provoke a civil war, that the papal election was rigged, that the cartoons in the Danish newspaper were deliberatley planted to provoke a reaction and even that the Indian Ocean tsunami was somehow man made, and viewing the massive (and quite frequently, contradictory) leaps in logic to create motives for doing this stuff, I decided it just wasn't worth it anymore.

Sadly I can't even send people to this site to check out the good stuff anymore because the first thing they'll see is the loony tinfoilers and their kneejerk screaming "THE BFEE DID IT!" every single time anything bad happens anywhere. Doesn't this remind you of the Freepers blaming Clinton's penis for every evil in the world?

[JohnKleeb]

33. It does remind me of the other side blaming clinton and his cock

Ohh yeah the Indian Ocean tusami being man made, they said that about the Hurricanes in New Orleans too. It doesn't help our credibility. Yeah seriously the stuff some people say in GD looks like something straight out of Oliver Stone's JFK but more nuts.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

34. Let's not forget that Castro is great ........

:popcorn:

[JohnKleeb]

35. and Alexander Lukahsenko is too despite

being a Stalinist asshole.

[ButterflyBlood]

36. There's even Mugabe fans there

Despite the fact Mugabe is a big fan of Fred Phelps. The idea of ANY self described progressive actually defending that murderous bigoted piece of filth just makes me sick.

[JohnKleeb]

38. Yuck

I've seen people defend Kim Jung II too. I've said it before adn I'll say it again. Any self described progressive or liberal should be critical of all tyranny and left wing tyranny is still tyranny after all. Being of Eastern European extraction on my mother's side has helped with this perspective. I mean the people of Eastern Europe suffered with the Nazi occupiation and later the Soviet domination of their lives.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

41. I remember when they praising him becuase he raised minimum wage

to $.90 and hour. LOL.

[JohnKleeb]

43. sheesh

Lukashenko from all accounts I read, Amnesty International for one we know how bad they are right? All accounts I read about Lukashenko is that he ran as a reformer after the Soviet Union fell though its been proven his charges of corrupition at the established powers to be were false and \ he's ruled Belarus with an iron fist ever since. I've seen people say it was bad what happened in Ukraine last year too. Christ some of these people would have opposed the Prague Spring because it went against Moscow. We as liberals should see it as our duty to fight for the little guy, the oppressed, thats how I was brought up.

[NMMNG]

37. You know how it is

It's like a train wreck. You swear you won't look, but you just can't help yourself. :shrug:

[JohnKleeb]

39. Good analogy

[laheina]

40. Yup. And every time someone starts a thread about GD

I have to go see the state of that train. :shrug:

[JohnKleeb]

42. Train is still crashed, sad to say

I never ever I thought I would identify as moderate in a context.

[hfojvt]

47. I take it you are

disliking the anti-immigration crowd? Or was it that really long thread about Asperger's?

[JohnKleeb]

48. Thats part of it

I am someone who has classes with these immigrants kids and they're really great people. Oh no, I loved the Aspergers thread, I wish I had seen it before I presented on thursday because I learned a bit. I don't like the somewhat authoritanism I see in some people who think the solution to the problems the GOP has caused our nation over the past few years is to just ban the GOP. That would be the wrong move. We can make the GOP less popular I feel by doing good things for the people in this nation.

[mduffy31]

50. This is what drives me nuts about GD

Every time someone posts something that is trying to be funny, or different there are all these people that rein down on them to ask them how is this contributing to getting Bush out of office, or the PC people start to chastise them for making fun of someone who is different. For fuck sake if you can't tell a joke about anything anymore, that everything has to be a serious issue, people will go away. You all know who these people are because they are always the same fucking people every time who hijack a thread and turn it into something its not. I include an example. A post submitted by a hispanic DU member, and watch how the PC crowd goes after him. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x900908

:eyes:

[JohnKleeb]

51. Ah political correctness

I really can't stand PC. Hell man I tell ethnic jokes and the like all the time and I in turn get joked on in return. It happened all the time with me in high school. In fact I remember one time I was busting on my mostly Italian friend by saying all they ate in Italy was pizza and I being Irish-German mostly was refered to as a booze swilling sausage eater or something like that. Yeah that is annoying. The PC crowd I also think is the same crowd that can't handle when our side is poked fun at say by South Park but they laugh whenever some one goes after the right. A sense of humor I think is one of the most underrated things to have in life.

[mduffy31]

52. Exactly

When my brother and I was watching the Daily Show last week and John Stewart called McKinney "batshit crazy," I told him I guarantee that there will be a thread on DU asking WTF is wrong with him, why didn't he go after DeLay more etc. And what was sad, I was right, went on here and there it was. I keep trying to tell them, he isn't Tucker's dancing monkey and he ain't yours either. Plus IMHO the way that McKinney was answering questions was too cute by half and did make her look batshit crazy, but if you said that you were a racist then also. Folks need to lighten up.

[JohnKleeb]

53. I saw that thread

I had three words for that OP who was giving Jon a hard time, "He's a Comedian" Yeah I do remember him telling Begala and Carlson that and it's the truth. Lewis Black goes after both sides too. Yeah I saw how people criticizing McKinney's actions were treated in GD, it was very unfair since hell even the Dean of the Democratic delegation down there in Georgia, John Lewis said she should have handled herself better. I guess he's racist too even though he nearly gave his life for civil rights in the 60s.

[riona]

54. "last time i ever go to gd" is the lounge's themesong

[Bassic]

56. That's right, and we like it that way.

:)

[GalleryGod]

57. Oh, John ! I would've expected a little more from you !

Here's an UNofficial Assignment: Go back and try to count all the OPS:
"I'm SCARED:scared: of GD"
"I'm NEVUH Going into GD again"
" I'm Hiding in the Lounge, GD is Cra-zy today!":crazy:

Your total might reach 4 figures.

[JohnKleeb]

58. Who's the cute blonde?