Interesting personality test

[Odin2005]

The test: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

Personality type info: http://keirsey.com



Architect Rational (iNTp)

Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition, it is the structural engineering role -- architechtonics -- that reaches the highest development in these Rationals, and it is for this reason they are aptly called the "Architects." Their major interest is in figuring out structure, build, configuration -- the spatiality of things.

As the engineering capabilities the Architects increase so does their desire to let others know about whatever has come of their engineering efforts. So they tend to take up an informative role in their social exchanges. On the other hand they have less and less desire, if they ever had any, to direct the activities of others. Only when forced to by circumstance do they allow themselves to take charge of activities, and they exit the role as soon as they can without injuring the enterprise.

The Architects' distant goal is always to rearrange the environment somehow, to shape, to construct, to devise, whether it be buildings, institutions, enterprises, or theories. They look upon the world -- natural and civil -- as little more than raw material to be reshaped according to their design, as a formless stone for their hammer and chisel. Ayn Rand, master of the Rational character, describes this characteristic in the architect Howard Roark, her protagonist in The Fountainhead:

"He was looking at the granite. He did not laugh as his eyes stopped in awareness of the earth around him. His face was like a law of nature-a thing one could not question, alter or implore. It had high cheekbones over gaunt, hollow cheeks; gray eyes, cold and steady; a contemptuous mouth, shut tight, the mouth of an executioner or a saint. He looked at the granite. To be cut, he thought, and made into walls. He looked at a tree. To be split and made into rafters. He looked at a streak of rust on the stone and thought of iron ore under the ground. To be melted and to emerge as girders against the sky. These rocks, he thought, are here for me; waiting for the drill, the dynamite and my voice; waiting to be split, ripped, pounded, reborn, waiting for the shape my hands will give to them."

Many regard this attitude as arrogant, and Architects are likely, especially in their later years, after finding out that most others are faking an understanding of the laws of nature, to think of themselves as the prime movers who must pit themselves against nature and society in an endless struggle to define ends clearly and adopt whatever means that promise success. If this is arrogance, then at least it is not vanity, and without question it has driven the design engineers to take the lead in molding the structure of civilization.

Albert Einstein as the iconic Rational is an Architect

Thomas Jefferson and Robert Rosen are examples of the Architect Rationals

[_testify_]

1. Counselor Idealist (iNFj)

The Counselor Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in reaching their goals, and directive and introverted in their interpersonal roles. Counselors focus on human potentials, think in terms of ethical values, and come easily to decisions. The small number of this type (little more than 2 percent) is regrettable, since Counselors have an unusually strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others and genuinely enjoy helping their companions. Although Counsleors tend to be private, sensitive people, and are not generally visible leaders, they nevertheless work quite intensely with those close to them, quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes with their families, friends, and colleagues. This type has great depth of personality; they are themselves complicated, and can understand and deal with complex issues and people.

Counselors can be hard to get to know. They have an unusually rich inner life, but they are reserved and tend not to share their reactions except with those they trust. With their loved ones, certainly, Counselors are not reluctant to express their feelings, their face lighting up with the positive emotions, but darkening like a thunderhead with the negative. Indeed, because of their strong ability to take into themselves the feelings of others, Counselors can be hurt rather easily by those around them, which, perhaps, is one reason why they tend to be private people, mutely withdrawing from human contact. At the same time, friends who have known a Counselor for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise. Not that they are inconsistent; Counselors value their integrity a great deal, but they have intricately woven, mysterious personalities which sometimes puzzle even them.

Counselors have strong empathic abilities and can become aware of another's emotions or intentions -- good or evil -- even before that person is conscious of them. This "mind-reading" can take the form of feeling the hidden distress or illnesses of others to an extent which is difficult for other types to comprehend. Even Counselors can seldom tell how they came to penetrate others' feelings so keenly. Furthermore, the Counselor is most likely of all the types to demonstrate an ability to understand psychic phenomena and to have visions of human events, past, present, or future. What is known as ESP may well be exceptional intuitive ability-in both its forms, projection and introjection. Such supernormal intuition is found frequently in the Counselor, and can extend to people, things, and often events, taking the form of visions, episodes of foreknowledge, premonitions, auditory and visual images of things to come, as well as uncanny communications with certain individuals at a distance.

Mohandas Gandhi and Eleanor Roosevelt are examples of the Counselor Idealist (INFJ).

[azmouse]

9. That's me too.

Interesting that Gandhi and E. Roosevelt are two people that I've always found fascinating.

[_testify_]

12. We are rare. 2% of the population!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

16. Oh yeah? Well, Mastermind Rational was 1% of the population!

:P :P

:hi:

[_testify_]

19. Why don't you go hang out with your own kind?

Damned INTJs.

;)

[WritingIsMyReligion]

24. We rule here in DU.

:evilgrin:

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

50. LOL

My husband is an INTJ and I'm an INFJ.

[Duer 157099]

20. lol, but a much higher % in DU n/t

[WritingIsMyReligion]

25. So I noticed.

;)

[azmouse]

23. I knew you'd say that because I'm intuitive.

:hi:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

26. LOL!

:hi:

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

51. Hey

I'm a Mainer too.

[serryjw]

52. ME TOO!

INTJ

Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
67 88 1 1

[Vektor]

59. Another elite member of the 2% checking in!

(I think the INFJ types tend to be liberals, as this type tends to staunchly defend the underdog, and has a fierce sense of justice.) So the whole 2% probably checks in at DU.

:hi:

[marions ghost]

70. INFJ here too --Counsellor Idealist

I --very expressive introvert
N --distinctly expressive intuitive
F--moderately expressive feeling
J--slightly expressive judging

yes, defense of the underdog is strong...a liberal trait

but what's the "perceiving" vs "judging" about --I really don't understand the diff there

I feel that this INFJ 'type' is often misunderstood, thought to be aloof and undemonstrative when actually it's a case of strong passions being held in check waiting for the right time for expression. We are often thought to be 'inconsistent'--operating with the high intuitive factor might have something to do with that.

[Zorra]

45. Me, too. n/t

[SoulGlo]

65. yet another one

:hi:

[deadparrot]

2. INTJ (Mastermind Rational).

Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition, it is the contingency planning or entailment organizing role that reaches the highest development in Masterminds. Entailing or contingency planning is not an informative activity, rather it is a directive one in which the planner tells others what to do and in what order to do it. As the organizing capabilities the Masterminds increase so does their inclination to take charge of whatever is going on.

It is in their abilities that Masterminds differ from the other Rationals, while in most of their attitudes they are just like the others. However there is one attitude that sets them apart from other Rationals: they tend to be much more self-confident than the rest, having, for obscure reasons, developed a very strong will. They are rather rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population. Being very judicious, decisions come naturally to them; indeed, they can hardly rest until they have things settled, decided, and set. They are the people who are able to formulate coherent and comprehensive contingency plans, hence contingency organizers or "entailers."

Masterminds will adopt ideas only if they are useful, which is to say if they work efficiently toward accomplishing the Mastermind's well-defined goals. Natural leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command of projects or groups, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once in charge, however, Masterminds are the supreme pragmatists, seeing reality as a crucible for refining their strategies for goal-directed action. In a sense, Masterminds approach reality as they would a giant chess board, always seeking strategies that have a high payoff, and always devising contingency plans in case of error or adversity. To the Mastermind, organizational structure and operational procedures are never arbitrary, never set in concrete, but are quite malleable and can be changed, improved, streamlined. In their drive for efficient action, Masterminds are the most open-minded of all the types. No idea is too far-fetched to be entertained-if it is useful. Masterminds are natural brainstormers, always open to new concepts and, in fact, aggressively seeking them. They are also alert to the consequences of applying new ideas or positions. Theories which cannot be made to work are quickly discarded by the Masterminds. On the other hand, Masterminds can be quite ruthless in implementing effective ideas, seldom counting personal cost in terms of time and energy.

A full description of the Mastermind and Rational is in People Patterns or Please Understand Me II

General Ulysses S. Grant is an example of Mastermind Rational

[bridgit]

3. Teacher Idealist (eNFj)...

ENFJ - Extroverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences % = 56 62 50 89

The Idealists called Teachers are abstract in their thought and speech, cooperative in their style of achieving goals, and directive and extraverted in their interpersonal relations. Learning in the young has to be beckoned forth, teased out from its hiding place, or, as suggested by the word "education," it has to be "educed." by an individual with educative capabilities. Such a one is the eNFj, thus rightly called the educative mentor or Teacher for short. The Teacher is especially capable of educing or calling forth those inner potentials each learner possesses. Even as children the Teachers may attract a gathering of other children ready to follow their lead in play or work. And they lead without seeming to do so.

Teachers expect the very best of those around them, and this expectation, usually expressed as enthusiastic encouragement, motivates action in others and the desire to live up to their expectations. Teachers have the charming characteristic of taking for granted that their expectations will be met, their implicit commands obeyed, never doubting that people will want to do what they suggest. And, more often than not, people do, because this type has extraordinary charisma.

TRADEMARK: "The first shall be last" http://typelogic.com/enfj.html

[supernova]

4. Mastermind Rational (INTJ)

I'm going to take over the world! Muuuhhhahahahahahahahah!

http://typelogic.com/intj.html
To outsiders, INTJs may appear to project an aura of "definiteness", of self-confidence. This self-confidence, sometimes mistaken for simple arrogance by the less decisive, is actually of a very specific rather than a general nature; its source lies in the specialized knowledge systems that most INTJs start building at an early age. When it comes to their own areas of expertise -- and INTJs can have several -- they will be able to tell you almost immediately whether or not they can help you, and if so, how. INTJs know what they know, and perhaps still more importantly, they know what they don't know.

INTJs are perfectionists, with a seemingly endless capacity for improving upon anything that takes their interest. What prevents them from becoming chronically bogged down in this pursuit of perfection is the pragmatism so characteristic of the type: INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms. This in turn produces an unusual independence of mind, freeing the INTJ from the constraints of authority, convention, or sentiment for its own sake.

INTJs are known as the "Systems Builders" of the types, perhaps in part because they possess the unusual trait combination of imagination and reliability. Whatever system an INTJ happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play, as INTJs can be unsparing of both themselves and the others on the project. Anyone considered to be "slacking," including superiors, will lose their respect -- and will generally be made aware of this; INTJs have also been known to take it upon themselves to implement critical decisions without consulting their supervisors or co-workers. On the other hand, they do tend to be scrupulous and even-handed about recognizing the individual contributions that have gone into a project, and have a gift for seizing opportunities which others might not even notice.

[Fleshdancer]

5. Teacher Idealist (eNFj)

The Idealists called Teachers are abstract in their thought and speech, cooperative in their style of achieving goals, and directive and extraverted in their interpersonal relations. Learning in the young has to be beckoned forth, teased out from its hiding place, or, as suggested by the word "education," it has to be "educed." by an individual with educative capabilities. Such a one is the eNFj, thus rightly called the educative mentor or Teacher for short. The Teacher is especially capable of educing or calling forth those inner potentials each learner possesses. Even as children the Teachers may attract a gathering of other children ready to follow their lead in play or work. And they lead without seeming to do so.

Teachers expect the very best of those around them, and this expectation, usually expressed as enthusiastic encouragement, motivates action in others and the desire to live up to their expectations. Teachers have the charming characteristic of taking for granted that their expectations will be met, their implicit commands obeyed, never doubting that people will want to do what they suggest. And, more often than not, people do, because this type has extraordinary charisma.

The Teachers are found in no more than 2 or 3 percent of the population. They like to have things settled and arranged. They prefer to plan both work and social engagements ahead of time and tend to be absolutely reliable in honoring these commitments. At the same time, Teachers are very much at home in complex situations which require the juggling of much data with little pre-planning. An experienced Teacher group leader can dream up, effortlessly, and almost endlessly, activities for groups to engage in, and stimulating roles for members of the group to play. In some Teachers, inspired by the responsiveness of their students or followers, this can amount to genius which other types find hard to emulate. Such ability to preside without planning reminds us somewhat of an Provider, but the latter acts more as a master of ceremonies than as a leader of groups. Providers are natural hosts and hostesses, making sure that each guest is well looked after at social gatherings, or that the right things are expressed on traditional occasions, such as weddings, funerals, graduations, and the like. In much the same way, Teachers value harmonious human relations about all else, can handle people with charm and concern, and are usually popular wherever they are. But Teachers are not so much social as educational leaders, interested primarily in the personal growth and development of others, and less in attending to their social needs.

Mikhail Gorbachev is an example of a Teacher Idealist.

[Duer 157099]

6. iNFp - Healer Idealist

Healer Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in striving for their ends, and informative and introverted in their interpersonal relations. Healer present a seemingly tranquil, and noticiably pleasant face to the world, and though to all appearances they might seem reserved, and even shy, on the inside they are anything but reserved, having a capacity for caring not always found in other types. They care deeply-indeed, passionately-about a few special persons or a favorite cause, and their fervent aim is to bring peace and integrity to their loved ones and the world.

Healers have a profound sense of idealism derived from a strong personal morality, and they conceive of the world as an ethical, honorable place. Indeed, to understand Healers, we must understand their idealism as almost boundless and selfless, inspiring them to make extraordinary sacrifices for someone or something they believe in. The Healer is the Prince or Princess of fairytale, the King's Champion or Defender of the Faith, like Sir Galahad or Joan of Arc. Healers are found in only 1 percent of the general population, although, at times, their idealism leaves them feeling even more isolated from the rest of humanity.

Healers seek unity in their lives, unity of body and mind, emotions and intellect, perhaps because they are likely to have a sense of inner division threaded through their lives, which comes from their often unhappy childhood. Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood, which, unfortunately, is discouraged or even punished by many parents. In a practical-minded family, required by their parents to be sociable and industrious in concrete ways, and also given down-to-earth siblings who conform to these parental expectations, Healers come to see themselves as ugly ducklings. Other types usually shrug off parental expectations that do not fit them, but not the Healers. Wishing to please their parents and siblings, but not knowing quite how to do it, they try to hide their differences, believing they are bad to be so fanciful, so unlike their more solid brothers and sisters. They wonder, some of them for the rest of their lives, whether they are OK. They are quite OK, just different from the rest of their family-swans reared in a family of ducks. Even so, to realize and really believe this is not easy for them. Deeply committed to the positive and the good, yet taught to believe there is evil in them, Healers can come to develop a certain fascination with the problem of good and evil, sacred and profane. Healers are drawn toward purity, but can become engrossed with the profane, continuously on the lookout for the wickedness that lurks within them. Then, when Healers believe thay have yielded to an impure temptation, they may be given to acts of self-sacrifice in atonement. Others seldom detect this inner turmoil, however, for the struggle between good and evil is within the Healer, who does not feel compelled to make the issue public.

[atomic-fly]

82. my score also..

[DS1]

7. I've been an INTP so many times in a row I don't even bother with test

anymore

[Spacemom]

8. The Portrait of the Protector Guardian (iSfJ)

The primary desire of the Protector Guardian is to be of service to others, but here “service” means not so much furnishing others with the necessities of life (the Provider’s concern), as guarding others against life’s pitfalls and perils, that is, seeing to their safety and security. There is a large proportion of Protectors in the population, perhaps as much as ten percent. And a good thing, because they are steadfast in their protecting, and seem fulfilled in the degree they can insure the safekeeping of those in their family, their circle of friends, or their place of business.

Protectors find great satisfaction in assisting the downtrodden and can deal with disability and neediness in others better than any other type. They go about their task of caretaking modestly, unassumingly, and because of this their efforts are not sometimes fully appreciated. They are not as outgoing and talkative as the Providers, except with close friends and relatives. With these they can chat tirelessly about the ups and downs in their lives, moving (like all the Guardians) from topic to topic as they talk over their everyday concerns. However, their shyness with strangers is often misjudged as stiffness, even coldness, when in truth these Protectors are warm-hearted and sympathetic, giving happily of themselves to those in need.

Their quietness ought really to be seen as an expression, not of coldness, but of their sincerity and seriousness of purpose. Like all the Guardians, Protectors have a highly developed puritan work ethic, which tells them that work is good, and that play must be earned-if indulged in at all. The least hedonic of all types, Protectors are willing to work long, long hours doing all the thankless jobs the other types seem content to ignore. Thoroughness and frugality are also virtues for Protectors. When they undertake a task, they will complete it if at all humanly possible; and they know the value of material resources and abhor the squandering or misuse of these resources. Protectors are quite content to work alone; indeed, they may experience some discomfort when placed in positions of authority, and may try to do everything themselves rather than insist that others do their jobs.

With their extraordinary commitment to security, and with their unusual talent for executing routines, Protectors do well in many careers that have to do with conservation: curators, private secretaries, librarians, middle-managers, police officers, and especially general medical practitioners. To be sure, the hospital is a natural haven for them; it is home to the family doctor, preserver of life and limb, and to the registered nurse, or licensed practical nurse, truly the angels of mercy. The insurance industry is also a good fit for Protectors. To save, to put something aside against an unpredictable future, to prepare for emergencies—these are important actions to Protectors, who as insurance agents want to see their clients in good hands, sheltered and protected.

The actor Jimmy Stewart and Mother Teresa are examples of Protector Guardian style.

[laheina]

10. INTJ

I love these threads. :D

[Shine]

11. Champion Idealist (eNFp) Wow, only "3% of the general populatn"

The Champion Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in accomplishing their aims, and informative and extraverted when relating with others. For Champions, nothing occurs which does not have some deep ethical significance, and this, coupled with their uncanny sense of the motivations of others, gives them a talent for seeing life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil. This type is found in only about 3 percent of the general population, but they have great influence because of their extraordinary impact on others. Champions are inclined to go everywhere and look into everything that has to do with the advance of good and the retreat of evil in the world. They can't bear to miss out on what is going on around them; they must experience, first hand, all the significant social events that affect our lives. And then they are eager to relate the stories they've uncovered, hoping to disclose the "truth" of people and issues, and to advocate causes. This strong drive to unveil current events can make them tireless in conversing with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out.


Hmmmm...fascinating. Thanks!

[gollygee]

13. I'm an ENFP too!

:D

[Shine]

29. Well, gollygee!

:pals: let's be bright little sunshines together, shall we? lol.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

14. INTJ---Apparently, that puts me as a Mastermind Rational

Others have already posted the typology.

Interesting.

:D

[Cathyclysmic]

66. Yeah! My twin

:toast:

[SteppingRazor]

15. I'm EsTp -- The Promoter

ESTP Scores 67 12 25 44

The Artisans called Promoters are not only concrete in speech and utilitarian in achieving their goals, they are also directive and expressive in their social interactions. They have no hesitation at all in approaching strangers and persuading them to do something. And others do their bidding, even on slight acquaintance.

Promoters are men and women of action. When someone of this personality is present, things begin to happen: the lights come on, the music plays, the game begins. And a game it is for the Promoter, the entrepreneur, the troubleshooter, the negotiator. Promoting is the art of winning others to your position, giving them confidence to go along with what you propose, and Promoter's seem especially able to maneuver others in the direction they want them to go. In a sense, they are able to handle people with much the same skill as Crafter's handle tools, operate machines, or play musical instruments. You might say that people are instruments in the Promoters' hands, and that they "play" them with great artistry. Promoters make up approximately ten per cent of the general population, and if only one adjective could be used to describe them, "resourceful" would be an apt choice.

Life is never dull around Promoters. Witty, clever, and fun, Promoters live life with a theatrical flourish which makes even the most routine events seem exciting. Not that they waste much time on routine events. Promoters have a knack for knowing where the action is. They always seem to have tickets to the "hot" show or "big" game (or can get them when others can't), and they usually know the best restaurants, where the headwaiters are likely to call them by name. To be sure, Promoters have a hearty appetite for the finer things of life, the best food, the best wine, expensive cars, and fashionable clothes. And they are extremely attentive to others and smooth in social circles, knowing many, many people by name, and knowing how to say just the right thing to most everyone they meet. None are as socially sophisticated as Promoters, none as suave and polished-and none such master manipulators of the people around them.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Ernest Hemingway are examples of the Promoter Artisan temperament.
********

Describes me fairly well, actually

[anarch]

17. Mastermind Rational (iNTj)

I think I'm afraid of myself now.


Edited to add:

and and to fix the subject line.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

18. Yeah, so am I.

:scared:

:D

[Vividqueen]

41. Me, too. Boy are those descriptions spooky!

They have me almost to a tee.

I work in engineering as project and office manager. I absolutely cannot work for or with people I don't respect. And I hate all that sentimental crap that goes along with relationships. (Hey, I love my husband, but I am not going around wearing heart jewelry - my pet peeve)

Oh, and I am the Queen (hence the name) in my world anyway ;-)

[Fleshdancer]

21. I'm disturbed by the amount of masterminds in the lounge

that can't be good! :scared: :scared: :scared:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

27. Bow in submission!

:evilgrin:

[supernova]

28. I think Rabrrrrrr and FG are INTJs also

IIRC from previous threads.

So, we're in good company! ;-)

[Rabrrrrrr]

48. No, I'm an ENTP

Though I really should be an "I", the way the test is set up, I am forced to answer on the "E" side for a number of them. Like, "DO you like being around people?" - yes, actually, I do prefer to have people around me, but I don't like to interact with them. So I work well at a coffee shop, where there is humanity, but no one I need to talk to.

And ENTP is even more dangerous than those sissy over-structured "J"-type loser INTJ's anyway.

[SteppingRazor]

22. Kind of odd how few extroverts there are n/t

[progmom]

30. we're posting on an internet discussion board

if we were extroverts, we'd be talking to real people. ;)

[Shine]

32. I do it all, babe.

:D I'm multi-talented and I'm definitely NOT shy.

:hi: :hug:

[progmom]

35. well yes, i suppose you're the exception

;)

[Shine]

36. LOL! Yup, that's me the freakazoid extrovert "exception"

:7

[progmom]

38. i'm hovering toward the middle of the scale

ever-so-slightly closer to introvert. :)

[Shine]

40. DJ's are cool, in my book.

esp ones with great musical tastes...I suppose you have to tap into your extrovertish side to do that show, right?

:thumbsup:

[Shine]

43. I suppose you have to tap into your extrovert side to do the DJ work, eh?

DJ's are very cool, in my book. Esp. ones with excellent musical taste, like you. :hug:


:hi:
on edit: I'm really piling on the compliments, I see...heheheh. although not intentionally. I didn't realize the first response post actually posted. On my end I got some weird sort of bug message, Aren't you fascinated to know all this? :eyes: lol.

[ImNotBuying]

42. So true!

I scored 89% Introvert. I'm surprised I'm not living in a cave somewhere.

[Shine]

31. I'm an extrovert...and I'm nice, too!

:D



:hi:

[supernova]

33. Yes, you are, Shine

:hi: :pals:

[Shine]

34. ...

:hug:

:hi: you mastermind, you!

[Ava]

37. i don't know wtf this means but,

Your Type is-
ENFJ

Strength of the preferences -
Extroverted 78%
Intuitive 75%
Feeling 50%
Judging 78%


You are:

* very expressed extrovert
* distinctively expressed intuitive personality
* moderately expressed feeling personality
* very expressed judging personality

[Ava]

39. I'm a "Teacher"

"The Idealists called Teachers are abstract in their thought and speech, cooperative in their style of achieving goals, and directive and extraverted in their interpersonal relations. Learning in the young has to be beckoned forth, teased out from its hiding place, or, as suggested by the word "education," it has to be "educed." by an individual with educative capabilities. Such a one is the eNFj, thus rightly called the educative mentor or Teacher for short. The Teacher is especially capable of educing or calling forth those inner potentials each learner possesses. Even as children the Teachers may attract a gathering of other children ready to follow their lead in play or work. And they lead without seeming to do so.

Teachers expect the very best of those around them, and this expectation, usually expressed as enthusiastic encouragement, motivates action in others and the desire to live up to their expectations. Teachers have the charming characteristic of taking for granted that their expectations will be met, their implicit commands obeyed, never doubting that people will want to do what they suggest. And, more often than not, people do, because this type has extraordinary charisma.

The Teachers are found in no more than 2 or 3 percent of the population. They like to have things settled and arranged. They prefer to plan both work and social engagements ahead of time and tend to be absolutely reliable in honoring these commitments. At the same time, Teachers are very much at home in complex situations which require the juggling of much data with little pre-planning......"

http://keirsey.com/personality/nfej.html

[Zookeeper]

44. Inventor Rational here...

That explains a lot.

[Deja Q]

46. ISTP... I go back and forth depending on my mood between it and INTP

The Crafter Artisans are not only concrete in speech and utilitarian in getting things done, they are also directive and attentive in their social roles. Though directive like their Promoter counterparts, their directiveness is leavened by a good deal of attentiveness and seclusiveness. They do not approach strangers readily, but once in contact do not hesitate to tell them what to do. And they can be quite forceful in this, such that others tend to do their bidding.

Like the other Artisans, Crafters live a life of artful action, but their particular nature is most easily seen in their mastery of tools of any and all kinds, from microscopic drill to supersonic jet, from potter's wheel to grand piano, from a camera to a clarinet. Sometimes Crafters will use their body as a tool. A tool is any implement that extends or varies our human powers -- vehicles, musical instruments, cutting devices, and weapons are just four of the many categories of the tools that surround us. Most of us use tools in some capacity, of course, but Crafters (only ten per cent of the general population) are the true virtuosos of tool work, with a natural ability to command tools, to bend them to their wishes, and to become adept at all the crafts requiring tool skills. Even from an early age Crafters are drawn to tools as to a magnet; tools fall into their hands demanding use, and they must manipulate them. Indeed, if a given tool, whether scalpel or earthmover, is operated with a precision that defies belief, that operator is likely an Crafter.



ISTPs are equally difficult to understand in their need for personal space, which in turn has an impact on their relationships with others. They need to be able to "spread out"--both physically and psychologically--which generally implies encroaching to some degree on others, especially if they decide that something of someone else's is going to become their next project. (They are generally quite comfortable, however, with being treated the same way they treat others--at least in this respect.) But because they need such a lot of flexibility to be as spontaneous as they feel they must be, they tend to become as inflexible as the most rigid J when someone seems to be threatening their lifestyle (although they usually respond with a classic SP rage which is yet another vivid contrast to their "dormant," impassive, detached mode). These territorial considerations are usually critical in relationships with ISTPs; communication also tends to be a key issue, since they generally express themselves non-verbally. When they do actually verbalize, ISTPs are masters of the one-liner, often showing flashes of humor in the most tense situations; this can result in their being seen as thick-skinned or tasteless.

[mconvente]

47. I'm a "Supervisor" according Keirsey; ESTJ

Also this: Extraverted Sensing Thinking Judging

From the Keirsey site:

Supervisor Guardians are squarely on the side of rules and procedures, and they can be quite serious about seeing to it that others toe the mark—or else face the consequences. They do not hesitate to give their stamp of approval, nor do they withhold their directions or suggestions for improvement. Like seasoned, stalwart umpires, Supervisors will set their jaw and make the call on anyone who steps up to bat. They even feel obligated to do so, and they’re sometimes surprised when others don’t seem grateful for being set straight.

Comprising at least ten percent of the population, Supervisors go by experience and that is what counts, not speculation and experimentation, and certainly not fantasy. They keep their feet firmly on the ground and make sure that those under their supervision do the same, whether employee, subordinate, offspring, or spouse. If others wish to fool around and daydream, fine, as long as they do it on their own time—which means after the job is done. But if they fritter away their time while on duty, they should not be surprised when the Supervisor calls them on the carpet. The top sergeant will not put up with such nonsense.

Supervisors are gregarious and civic-minded, and are usually key players of their community. They are generous with their time and energy, and very often belong to a variety of groups, supporting them through steady attendance, but also taking a vocal leadership role. Indeed, membership groups of all kinds attract Supervisors like magnets, perhaps because membership satisfies in some degree their need to maintain the stability of social institutions. Like all the Guardians, Supervisors worry a good deal about society falling apart, morality decaying, standards being undermined, traditions being lost, and they do all they can to preserve and to extend the institutions that embody social order. Supervisors are so in tune with the established institutions and ways of behaving within those institutions, that they have a hard time understanding those who might wish to abandon or radically change them.

That is pretty much 100% accurate of who I am! hehehe

I'm not too uncommon though - 10% of the population

[Strong Atheist]

49. INFP. nt.

[Maine-ah]

71. me too.

So is (was) Princess Diana.

[rbnyc]

53. ENFJ, Idealist, Teacher.

Cool.

"Even as children the Teachers may attract a gathering of other children ready to follow their lead in play or work." SO TRUE!

"The Teachers are found in no more than 2 or 3 percent of the population." WOW!

[Odin2005]

54. *BUMP*

[Starbucks Anarchist]

55. INTP/Architect.

You are:

* very expressed introvert
* moderately expressed intuitive personality
* moderately expressed thinking personality
* moderately expressed perceiving personality

ARCHITECT:

http://keirsey.com/personality/ntip.html

[GoddessOfGuinness]

56. Borderline NFP

I've taken the test before. Sometimes I'm slightly introverted, and others extroverted.

[Guava Jelly]

57. Mastermind Rational (iNTj)

Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition, it is the contingency planning or entailment organizing role that reaches the highest development in Masterminds. Entailing or contingency planning is not an informative activity, rather it is a directive one in which the planner tells others what to do and in what order to do it. As the organizing capabilities the Masterminds increase so does their inclination to take charge of whatever is going on.

It is in their abilities that Masterminds differ from the other Rationals, while in most of their attitudes they are just like the others. However there is one attitude that sets them apart from other Rationals: they tend to be much more self-confident than the rest, having, for obscure reasons, developed a very strong will. They are rather rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population. Being very judicious, decisions come naturally to them; indeed, they can hardly rest until they have things settled, decided, and set. They are the people who are able to formulate coherent and comprehensive contingency plans, hence contingency organizers or "entailers."

Masterminds will adopt ideas only if they are useful, which is to say if they work efficiently toward accomplishing the Mastermind's well-defined goals. Natural leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command of projects or groups, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once in charge, however, Masterminds are the supreme pragmatists, seeing reality as a crucible for refining their strategies for goal-directed action. In a sense, Masterminds approach reality as they would a giant chess board, always seeking strategies that have a high payoff, and always devising contingency plans in case of error or adversity. To the Mastermind, organizational structure and operational procedures are never arbitrary, never set in concrete, but are quite malleable and can be changed, improved, streamlined. In their drive for efficient action, Masterminds are the most open-minded of all the types. No idea is too far-fetched to be entertained-if it is useful. Masterminds are natural brainstormers, always open to new concepts and, in fact, aggressively seeking them. They are also alert to the consequences of applying new ideas or positions. Theories which cannot be made to work are quickly discarded by the Masterminds. On the other hand, Masterminds can be quite ruthless in implementing effective ideas, seldom counting personal cost in terms of time and energy.

A full description of the Mastermind and Rational is in People Patterns or Please Understand Me II

General Ulysses S. Grant is an example of Mastermind Rational

[Spider Jerusalem]

58. INTP...

which is what I score about 75% of the time (the other 25% I get INTJ).

(INTP is supposedly one of the rarest types; 1% of the population.)

[wildhorses]

60. INFP...always....

Your Type is
INFP
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
22 38 50 56


INFP type description by D.Keirsey
INFP type description by J. Butt



Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
slightly expressed introvert

moderately expressed intuitive personality

moderately expressed feeling personality

moderately expressed perceiving personality

[NMMNG]

61. ISTJ, Inspector Guardian

Inspector Guardians look carefully and thoroughly at the people and institutions around them. Making up perhaps as much as ten percent of the general population, Inspectors are characterized by decisiveness in practical affairs, are the guardians of institutions, and if only one adjective could be selected, “superdependable” would best describe them. Whether at home or at work, Inspectors are nothing if not dependable, particularly when it comes to examining the people and products they are responsible for—quietly seeing to it that uniform quality is maintained, and that those around them uphold certain standards of attitude and conduct.

These quiet, no-nonsense Guardians have a distaste for and distrust of fanciness in speech, dress, and living space. Their words tend to be simple and down-to-earth, not showy or high-flown; their clothes are often homespun and conservative rather than of the latest fashion; and their home and work environments are usually neat, orderly, and traditional, rather than up-to-date or luxurious. In their choice of personal property (cars, furnishings, jewelry, and so on) price and durability are just as important as comfort or appearance. Classics, antiques, and heirlooms are especially valued, having achieved a certain time-honored status—Inspectors prefer the old-fashioned to the newfangled every time. Even on vacation, Inspectors tend not to be attracted by exotic foods, beverages, or locales.

Their thoroughness and orderliness, combined with their interest in legality and standardization, leads Inspectors to a number of occupations that call for the careful administration of goods and services. Inspectors feel right at home with difficult, detailed forms and columns of figures, and thus they make excellent bank examiners, auditors, accountants, and tax attorneys. Managing investments in securities is likely to interest this type, particularly investments in municipal bonds and blue-chip securities. Inspectors are not likely to take chances either with their own or others’ money, and the thought of a bankrupt nation, state, institution, or family gives them more than a little uneasiness. The idea of dishonoring a contract also bothers an Inspector —their word is their bond—and they naturally communicate a message of trustworthiness and stability, which can make them successful in business. With their eye for detail, Inspectors make good business men and women, librarians, dentists, optometrists, legal secretaries, and law researchers. High school and college teachers of business administration, home economics, physical education, civics, and history tend to be Inspectors, as do quartermaster officers in the military.

[austengirl]

63. Self -delete

[nickinSTL]

67. Me too...not a suprise

I notice it says "librarians". Seems appropriate, considering I'm working on my degree in Information Studies.

[NMMNG]

74. I'll be going to grad school to get my MLIS whenever I get the money

Perhaps in a brazillion years. :P

[nickinSTL]

79. I know the feeling

I'm going to be in quite a bit of debt (understatement) - but I'm still better off than my brother, who just got out of law school a year ago.

The cost of in-state tuition isn't too bad if you're in a state with a program. My program is in Florida and charges in-state tuition to online distance students, which keeps the cost down.

[laheina]

76. How strong were you on the S/N scale. Buffy? nt

[pokerfan]

62. Yet another Mastermind Rational (iNTj) here

Seems to be a bunch of us on DU.

[Cathyclysmic]

68. Or we like to take quizzes..

:toast:

[miss_american_pie]

64. Well that's odd

INFJ

I have always scored as ISFJ. Interesting.

[Kerrytravelers]

69. Here is mine:

Your Type is
ISFP
Introverted 56% Sensing 1% Feeling 38% Perceiving 44%


Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:

moderately expressed introvert

slightly expressed sensing personality

moderately expressed feeling personality

moderately expressed perceiving personality


Famous ISFPs:
Marie Antoinette
Auguste Rodin


U.S. Presidents
Ulysses S. Grant
Millard Fillmore, "The American Louis Philippe"
Warren G. Harding
Fred Astaire
Marilyn Monroe
Liberace
Elizabeth Taylor
Yogi Berra, professional baseball player ("It's deja vu all over again.")
Dan Rather
Orrin Hatch, U.S. Senator
Ervin "Magic" Johnson, NBA basketball star
Patrick Duffey
Dan Quayle, U.S. Vice President, 1988-1992 :puke:
Paul McCartney
Christopher Reeve
Michael Jackson
Kevin Costner
Greg Louganis, U.S. Olympic gold medalist
Brooke Shields
Britney Spears :puke:
John Travolta
Ashton Kutcher
Donald Trump :puke:


Besides being concrete in speech and utilitarian in getting what they want, the Composer Artisans are informative and attentive in their social roles. Composers are just as reluctant to direct others' behavior as are Performers, though they appear even more so, since they are more attentive.

While all the Artisans are artistic in nature, Composers (perhaps ten per cent of the population) seem to excel in the "fine arts," having not only a natural grace of movement, but also an innate sense what fits and what doesn't fit in artistic compositions. Of course, composing must not be thought of as only writing music, but as bringing into harmonious form any aspect of the world of the five senses, and so when an especially gifted painter, sculptor, choreographer, film maker, songwriter, chef, decorator, or fashion designer shows up, he or she is likely to be an Composer.

Composers, like the other Artisans, have a special talent for "tactical" variation, and such talent differs radically from that possessed by Idealists, Rationals, and Guardians (who have their own unique and inherent abilities). As the word "tactical" implies, Artisans keep closely in "touch" with the physical world, their senses keenly tuned to reality. But, while the Crafter is attuned to the tool and its uses, the Composer is attuned to sensory variation in color, line, texture, aroma, flavor, tone-seeing, touching, smelling, tasting, and hearing in harmony. This extreme concreteness and sensuality seems to come naturally to the Composers, as if embedded "in the warp and woof" of their make.

Bob Dylan is an example of a Composer Artisan.

Mel brooks Neil Simon Mozart Speilberg Cher Jackie O Dylan

[Orrex]

72. An amazing fact about the Myers-Briggs test instrument

It NEVER returns an answer of DUPK (Dangerously Unhinged Psyco-Killer) or SINC (Self-Indulgent Narcissistic Coprophage). Instead, the results all swirl about in a touchy-feely "we're all okay, just different" realm that bears about as much reference to verifiable reality as do astrology or tarot card readings.

The MBTI is fine if you're just out for shits-n-giggles, but the sad truth is that employers actually do use this bogus, bullshit product for assessing job candidates and for determining career paths within a company.

[realisticphish]

73. hooray!

i was going to post something similar, but was trying to figure out a way to do it without insulting anyone. I've never seen the norms for these tests, but it seems to me that they're a very arbitrary, stereotype based set, kind of like the Rorschach.

Personality tests are, IMHO, total bullshit. No set of questions, be it the Myers-Briggs, the Rorschach, or the MMPI can really, truly outline a personality. Perhaps give a therapist or counselor a place to start, but not as a serious assessment.

[laheina]

78. Your last point is exactly how I responded.

I was taught from an early age to be skeptical of IQ tests and personality tests. My mother called the latter "pigeon hole theory" instead of personality theory for the reasons that you outlined in your post.

However, it is designed to be used by educated and skilled practitioners as one of many tools. We are just voyeurs taking it for a silly-spin on the internet. But it is all in fun.

[pokerfan]

75. Hannibal Lecter (fictional) is an example of a mastermind

according to one of the links.

Did you hear about the cannibal who passed his uncle in the woods?

[laheina]

77. It isn't supposed to measure pathology.

It is supposed to group people based on personality traits.

And I have several friends(and one step sister) with grad degrees in Psychology that tell me that it is valid--but that comes from practitioners of the soft sciences :shrug:, so what are you gonna do? However, comparing such ideas with tarot or astrology is a bit much.

Where you are right is that it is meant to be utilized by people who are schooled and versed in such endeavors,psychologists and the like, not the shift supervisor at the local 7-11.

[Orrex]

80. Well, the problems are inherent to the instrument itself

With due respect to your grad student friends (and to the soft sciences, as well), the owners of the the trademarked MBTI state outright that, if test results do not match one's personality, a trained counselor can tweak the results to bring them more into line. That little disclaimer renders the test utterly non-falsifiable and thus makes it an utterly non-scientific instrument. We can say "then don't tweak it," but then we're not talking about the MBTI anymore.

That, by the way, is where the astrology/tarot comparison comes in. Those two popular methods of scrying are non-falsifiable, just like the MBTI.

Advocates of the MBTI don't carry any real weight in the absence of hard, independent, and reproducible empirical data, which AFAIK does not exist. If you'd like, I'll post my suggestion for conducting a controlled MBTI study.

But if MBTI advocates still find the tarot comparison to be unpalatable, I'll offer another: the MBTI is as objectively accurate a measure of personality as the polygraph is an objective measure of truth/falsehood (which is to say, unfortunately, "not at all").

[philosophie_en_rose]

81. The Portrait of the Healer Idealist (iNFp)

Healer Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in striving for their ends, and informative and introverted in their interpersonal relations. Healer present a seemingly tranquil, and noticiably pleasant face to the world, and though to all appearances they might seem reserved, and even shy, on the inside they are anything but reserved, having a capacity for caring not always found in other types. They care deeply-indeed, passionately-about a few special persons or a favorite cause, and their fervent aim is to bring peace and integrity to their loved ones and the world.

Healers have a profound sense of idealism derived from a strong personal morality, and they conceive of the world as an ethical, honorable place. Indeed, to understand Healers, we must understand their idealism as almost boundless and selfless, inspiring them to make extraordinary sacrifices for someone or something they believe in. The Healer is the Prince or Princess of fairytale, the King's Champion or Defender of the Faith, like Sir Galahad or Joan of Arc. Healers are found in only 1 percent of the general population, although, at times, their idealism leaves them feeling even more isolated from the rest of humanity.

Healers seek unity in their lives, unity of body and mind, emotions and intellect, perhaps because they are likely to have a sense of inner division threaded through their lives, which comes from their often unhappy childhood. Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood, which, unfortunately, is discouraged or even punished by many parents. In a practical-minded family, required by their parents to be sociable and industrious in concrete ways, and also given down-to-earth siblings who conform to these parental expectations, Healers come to see themselves as ugly ducklings. Other types usually shrug off parental expectations that do not fit them, but not the Healers. Wishing to please their parents and siblings, but not knowing quite how to do it, they try to hide their differences, believing they are bad to be so fanciful, so unlike their more solid brothers and sisters. They wonder, some of them for the rest of their lives, whether they are OK. They are quite OK, just different from the rest of their family-swans reared in a family of ducks. Even so, to realize and really believe this is not easy for them. Deeply committed to the positive and the good, yet taught to believe there is evil in them, Healers can come to develop a certain fascination with the problem of good and evil, sacred and profane. Healers are drawn toward purity, but can become engrossed with the profane, continuously on the lookout for the wickedness that lurks within them. Then, when Healers believe thay have yielded to an impure temptation, they may be given to acts of self-sacrifice in atonement. Others seldom detect this inner turmoil, however, for the struggle between good and evil is within the Healer, who does not feel compelled to make the issue public.

[Mutley]

83. ...

Your Type is
INFJ
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
100 62 12 56


INFJ type description by D.Keirsey
INFJ type description by J. Butt and M.M. Heiss



Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
very expressed introvert

distinctively expressed intuitive personality

slightly expressed feeling personality

moderately expressed judging personality