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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:18 PM
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Ladies: Who would you rather be involved with?
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 04:22 PM by ZombieNixon
A) A hard-working guy who might not have all the money in the world and can't necessarily immediately satisfy all your material desires but at least has a handle on love and relationships.

OR

B) A rich guy who can immediately satisfy all your material desires but who's really just looking for sex on tap whenever he want it.

Also, whichever position you take, was it always like this or has it changed over the years?

Inquiring minds want to know. :shrug:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:19 PM
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1. that question is more than a little loaded for a liberal message board
dontcha think? :D
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:22 PM
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6. I will admit...
my description of Guy B is more than a little colored by my view of self-centered rich bastards. ;)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:19 PM
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2. I would have to know more
:shrug:
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:19 PM
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3. My Vote
I would go with Guy A. A guy like that is much harder to find. As far as I cam remember, I would always have gone for Guy A.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:21 PM
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4. A-definately
And it's always been like that for me. I went to school with a lot of spoiled rich kids, so I tend to stay away fom men with money. I suppose that's a bit prejudiced of me, huh?
Hopefully, though my man and I won't always be so broke and I cn have the perfect combo of A&B. I woman can dream....:loveya:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:22 PM
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5. Material desires have always been fairly immaterial to me
I've never wanted a man just to take care of me financially - I'm capable of doing that myself. Much more important to me is a man who is a good person and has a good heart.

As for positions, that's none of your business. :evilgrin:
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:21 PM
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7. Would you please give me a break?
Your second choice isn't a realistic option, even, unless the woman is a golddigger who is just out for sex herself.

Women do not want rich, Brad Pitt looking men. Women want SOs who are funny, smart, and interested. Our requirements are so much less external than men that it's laughable, really. This whole "Waah, women only want money" thing is a crutch, IMO.

Does that mean we want someone who has to borrow money from us to pay his rent every month? Uh, no. But I don't think a man wants that, either.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:22 PM
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8. Hence my "I would have to know more"
'Cause guy A could be really dull, and guy B could be a lot of fun... :shrug:
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:24 PM
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9. Yup--it's just as easy to love a rich man!
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 06:25 PM by tjdee
:silly:

Mostly, it all comes down to chemistry/compatibility/whatever.

Plus, if Guy A is always depressed because he has no dough, gets grumpy when you suggest going out to eat or taking in a movie.... eww.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:25 PM
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11. Amen sistah!
:yourock:
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:25 PM
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10. False dichotomy
I'd choose a guy who isn't living out of his parents' basement and is responsible and can hold down a reasonable job, *and* has a handle (at least) on love and relationships.

But I never thought a guy had to be even remotely wealthy for me to be interested in him - he just had to be responsible and self-supporting. So option A might very well fit, depending on the specifics.

I'm married now so it's a moot point.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:52 PM
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12. B...Love is stupid.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:26 PM
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13. Oy. Compatibility, mental and emotional health and maturity
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 07:33 PM by BlueIris
are the most important criteria by which I evaluate the level of desirability of a potential partner. Wealth or even financial security without any of those other things doesn't mean a damn thing to me. But that's me. Single, never married, no dependants, no significant personal debt, no intention to get married, produce dependents, or acquire personal debt. Healthy. Not planning on doing anything to make myself unhealthy.

For many women, a partner's material security is a factor for a lot of valid reasons. While I confess that I kind of look down on women who expect their partners to make "a lot" of money, or at least more money than they do, because to me that comes across as a little limited and superficial--I don't think that makes them bad people, people who are being unreasonable or even abnormal. And I totally understand the perspective of women who want their partners to make at least as much money as they do, out of a desire to be with someone whose attitude about money and life management is compatible with their own. Some other factors to consider when judging women who do expect their partners to have their financial shit together or even be prosperous: 1) It's more expensive to be a woman in this society than it is to be a man. Especially when it comes to the kind of health maintenance expenses women are subjected to, and the additional monetary burden women carry in relationships in which they are expected or forced to bear the entire responsibility for effective contraception and/or in relationships in which they bear children, or shoulder the bulk of childcare duties. The percentage of men in poverty in this country is approximately 10%, while the percentage of women in poverty is now more like 13% (you'd have to Google for the exact statistics, I only know 2004's--men: 9.5%, women--12.9%). 2) Women make less money than men.

Also, I'll admit that while I would never rule out a potential partner on the basis of how much money he made, my last boyfriend was terrible with money, was swimming in debt, (you do know that if you marry someone who a shitty financial past, you inherit their financial problems, right?) and became progressively worse on that score as our relationship aged, which made it increasingly difficult to have any kind of a life with him. I doubt I would get involved with someone who had never learned (and wasn't willing or able to learn) how to be financially responsible even during times when he wasn't prosperous. That's an important part of what it takes to be compatible with me. And even if it weren't important to me personally on the compatibility front, sometimes, questionable employment, financial status and attitudes about money management can be a sign of other mental health problems. Not always and maybe not often, but in terms of relationships, I won't be going anywhere near anyone who doesn't have the first clue about how to avoid financial ruin again. 'Cause I like my partners to be sane.

Pardon me if this was another Lounge joke thread I didn't "get." That happens. In case it wasn't, though...again, oy.
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:43 PM
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14. Oy
Girl troubles there, ZN?

You do realize that sometimes women just want no-strings-attached flings too, right?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 07:47 PM
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15. No telling.
Which one is a nice guy? Do I click with one? Who has more in common with me? Who has ethics?

Really, money is nice to have and so is frequent sex but I'd rather have the guy I'm compatible with (assuming I were looking.) Im not really materialistic though, so "can't satisfy all your material desires doesn't matter" as long as the lights stay on and the car runs.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:06 PM
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16. I can satisfy all my material desires
on my own, thank you very much!

I want a man who is my friend & lover, not my provider. So it could be either A or B, depending on which one I fell in love with.

That's always been my choice.
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