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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:03 AM
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Poll question: Who Here has a FBI File on them?
I do.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:03 AM
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1. I may have one...
Edited on Sun Apr-16-06 01:03 AM by Fox Mulder
I don't know...

:shrug:
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:07 PM
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32. Dude, you WORK for the FBI.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:06 AM
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2. Does ASIO count? It's my equivalent....
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:07 AM
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5. yep.
it does.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:12 AM
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10. O.K. in that case no I don't.
yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk!
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:06 AM
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3. I would not be at all surprised if I did.
I do not know for sure though.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:07 AM
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4. I have no idea, but wouldn't be surprised.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:09 AM
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6. I do
Maybe I should have expected it would happen because I worked for a progressive organization, but I was still surprised to find it out.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:11 AM
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9. How do you find out? Just call 'em up? n/t
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:27 AM
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17. They contacted me for questioning
That was kind of a freaky feeling! There wasn't really substance to the whole deal, though. I think a lot of what they do is just to intimidate people.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:11 AM
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7. If I don't, the Feds are a real bunch of fuc# ups.
:spank:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:11 AM
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8. I'd be nearly shocked if I didn't.
Now I'm boring as all hell, but that doesn't seem to stop them these days. They have to save Murka from the animal-loving veggie hoarde you know. :eyes:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:12 AM
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11. I'm sure ordering a garden burger in Redding
puts you on a list. :eyes:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:15 AM
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12. Probably.
For that matter, your birding equipment probably would. After all it could be a cover for terraist recon. :eyes:
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:15 AM
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13. Yeah with Bird flu and all.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:17 AM
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15. I'm probably looking to blow up the Sundial Bridge
to strike a blow against the Redding power elite. :eyes:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:17 AM
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14. Having been in Education, fingerprinted so many times
So, now that you read it here...
Come and get me Feds! I'm a liberal and I was in the Teacher's Union! I told the kids they didn't HAVE to say "under god"! Hah! So There!

(Yeah! That felt so good to say :D )
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:19 AM
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16. SSSSHHHH
You could end up some where in the carribean.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:47 AM
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18. Kicking so people don't think my copycat aint a copycat!
:cry::cry::cry:
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 11:50 AM
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26. COPYCAT!!!!
how's shit down under?
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:15 AM
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19. Kick
:kick:
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:33 AM
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20. I'm sure I still have one
I had to be vetted for a security clearance when I was in the Army Signal Corps (1974-76). I don't think I've done anything to warrrant any follow-ups by the FBI in the last thirty years, though.
John
It is now 62 days 27 minutes to FUNDAY here in Saginaw, Michigan. All DUers are invited to drop me a private message for more details.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:36 AM
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21. Yes I do
They revoked my security clearance where I used to work. An FBI Agent came to talk to me.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:46 AM
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22. What did you do to get it revoked?
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:41 PM
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27. They said it was because I had bad credit and had charge offs
But I belive it was really because I used to sign a lot of petitions againt bush on the computer at work.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:51 AM
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23. How many posts do you have to haveon DU
to get an FBI file?
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:06 PM
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31. that first one now.
:P
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 10:54 AM
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24. I guess I do
Now days I think if you are convicted of a crime, no matter how minor, the FBI knows about you.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:07 PM
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33. Well you are in a national database.
But not right away in the FBI Files. It depends on the crime.
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 11:49 AM
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25. guaranfuckingteed!
top secret clearance back in the day.

i also play w/ energetic materials, order online, and am prbly on a no-fly list (funny, was 1ce an Air Marshal!)

also own some very esoteric but legal firearms.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:08 PM
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34. friend of mine was EOD in the Marines..
If they find a pipe bomb they will call to see what he has been up too.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:42 PM
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28. Oh, I'm sure we all have
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:09 PM
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36. It is possible.
We are a bunch of MURICA hating commies on here.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:52 PM
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29. Well, I'm a Canuck ie Commie
so I'd think so...
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:09 PM
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37. You might.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 01:54 PM
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30. Yes. For sure.
I'm banned from being in the same venue as Bush, Cheney or any cabinet-level member of the current administration.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:09 PM
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38. I am not that bad.
:P
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:11 PM
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40. I don't view that as a bad thing.
:shrug: :P
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:14 PM
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41. If you have that on your record that means you can not get close to...
Any president. Democrat or republican.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:19 PM
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44. As far as I know, I'm banned from this particular president
for writing editorials in the paper, none of which were Bush-friendly. The Republican campaign offices put my name on the list for being a partisan Democrat. :shrug:
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:21 PM
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45. that is just on their list of acceptables.
It is not on the FBI watch list. If it was FBI you would have been talked to.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:24 PM
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48. I was.
When I got tickets to see Bush speak, I got thrown out by the secret service before the first metal detector and the FBI agent told me to leave the park or be arrested.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:31 PM
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49. That is nuts!
:grr:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:33 PM
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50. It's a great story, though.
I was seventeen at the time, too, not even a registered voter.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:09 PM
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35. How do you know if you do or not?
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:10 PM
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39. have you ever had a back ground check?
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:15 PM
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42. Maybe. I spent seven years working for a DoD contractor...
but I never had any security clearance.
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:17 PM
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43. It is a possibility.
Never know.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:22 PM
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46. My buddy Mike says I don't.
Actually, he broke into a phone conversation I was having about it to put my mind at ease. :D
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:23 PM
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47. I worked for the IRS, so I probably have a small, un-notable file.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 02:57 PM
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51. Security Clearance check (Yawn) n/t
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 03:00 PM
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52. Me too.
For meeting Papa Bush and applying for PD job.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 05:44 PM
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53. I've seen mine
It's due to antiwar activities- the rightwingers thought that we were all commies trying to "overthrow the system"
A FOI request for a graduate class and there it was; much of it "redacted" but well over a foot thick.

Probably a lot taller now.
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 05:50 PM
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54. Probably
I very likely have a KGB file too :shrug: I visited the Soviet Embassy with my high school foreign policy class before the end of the Cold War. My parents definitely have files.... dad for the USAF and mom for work with banks. I would be surprised if I did NOT have a file.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 06:05 PM
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55. I do.
My father has worked for the government his entire career. My mom has been questioned numerous times, and followed. I've never been questioned or followed (to my knowledge, anyway), but I'm sure there's a file on me.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 06:10 PM
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56. I think we should just go ride bikes besides I heard anyone over
the age of ten has one.:shrug: :hi:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 06:13 PM
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57. I have one
I can't tell you why. It's classified...

:smoke:
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 06:34 PM
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58. I'm sure I do...
thanks to a minor little incident in Nicaragua in the mid-80s...

:shrug:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 06:54 PM
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59. I do, and a GRU file as well
GRU is Soviet military intelligence. How I got the GRU file is pretty good.

During the Cold War, there were three checkpoints for Allied personnel to pass through on their way from West Germany to East Berlin:

Checkpoint Alpha was on the Inter German Border at Helmstedt/Marienborn.

Checkpoint Bravo was in the southwest corner of Berlin.

Checkpoint Charlie you all know about.

If you wanted to travel by road to West Berlin, you reported to the Allied Checkpoint Alpha at Helmstedt. There the MP would check your flag orders--authorization to travel through Soviet-occupied territory; these were called flag orders because there was a picture of the flag you served under printed on top of them. He would record your odometer reading. He would ask if you had a full tank of gas. (Big penalties awaited you if you ran out of gas in the corridor. Breaking down was okay, but God help you if you ran out of gas.) He would then record the time you left Checkpoint Alpha on a form, hand you a folder containing the form and a sign to use if you broke down or got pulled over by the Volkspolizei--it said in English, German and Russian "I demand to see a Soviet Officer." And then you'd be sent on your way. You had between 2 hours 20 minutes and 3 hours 20 minutes to make it to the Allied Checkpoint Bravo in Berlin--less than 2:20 and you were ticketed for speeding; more than 3:20 and you had better have a real good explanation. The road sucked bad enough that if you stayed on it and drove at a reasonable, non-car-destroying speed, you'd get to Berlin in about 2:45. (It was 117 miles from Checkpoint Alpha to Checkpoint Bravo.)

You then drove exactly one kilometer to the Soviet Checkpoint Bravo at Marienborn, East Germany. There you parked your car, got out, and reported to the Soviet private. The Soviet private would salute you. The sergeant at School of Standards said this was because the Soviet private couldn't read English so he didn't know who was an officer. That's bullshit--the Soviet private saluted you because Soviet soldiers saluted everyone who outranked them, and every American soldier stationed in Germany outranked this poor bastard. Anyway, you returned the salute and went into the guardhouse. There you presented the flag orders and ID cards of everyone in the car with you to the officer behind the desk. The desk was built like one at a bank so you couldn't see what he was doing back there. We just assumed he had a logbook in which he recorded names, ranks and SSNs of everyone passing through the corridor. It took him a few minutes to do this if there was no line of people waiting, so there was some nice furniture to wait in. They had coffee tables and end tables, and all of them were covered in copies of "Soviet Military Review," which was written in 21 different languages. It was kinda neat--lots of pictures of Soviet weapons systems and fun propaganda about the Soviet Army. Anyway, they'd let you take their magazines if you wanted; they had a big box of them in the closet. And naturally, the KGB guy standing there took note of which ones you picked up so they could exploit you for language capabilities.

And just as naturally, I took one of each. :evilgrin: Which would have made life for their recruiters slightly difficult considering that not only can't I speak Urdu or Pushtu much less Slovak or Polish, I can barely speak English.
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veganred Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:24 PM
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60. Yes! But they marked out everything!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:24 PM
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61. Let's go ride bikes...
Or anything else you're keen on riding! :7
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 08:44 PM
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62. I do, guaranteed - if only due to my security clearances. n/t
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-16-06 09:18 PM
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63. I have always assumed that I do.
I know for a fact that they have me on film because i used to work--literally--down the hall from them at a free legal services organization. They had a video camera filming out hallway 24/7. I used to joke with my student employees about not scratching, adjusting undies or doing anything else that you wouldn't want to ever see on film if you were in our hallway.

What was really strange, however, about working down the hall from those guys, was making a trip to the bathrooms there on our floor. One of the lawyers on our floor had a great story about being in the Men's room when one of the FBI guys came in and went into a stall. CLUNK went the gun on the floor when the guy dropped his pants to poop.

I had a few times where I was coming into work and finding my computer turned on when I knew durn well I'd turned it off as I was the last one out of the office. I checked with the building manager and he says there were no other keys to our office out there--so I am inclined to wonder about that. Especially since I was active here at DU before and after 9/11.

I always kind of figured that anybody that got the job of monitoring me probably was comatose with boredom within a very short time. I am outspoken with my politics but not really much of a danger to anybody. Plus, my connections to the legal community make me a "difficult" subject to do much with.

Regards.


Laura
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