Ready for Da Vinci Code, if you think there're no allegorical codes...

[bridgit]

in art, then spend a little time with: Sister Wendy, she's got the whole rap down pat http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/sisterwendy B-)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Bronzino's "Venus, Cupid, Folly, and Time" was allegorical.

I think it was code for "titty twister."

[bridgit]

2. she raps on all such, mentions how hard it was for artists to convey...

their socio/economic surroundings under the weight and often narrow focus of royal, or princely commissions, and the likelihood of they're being pulled if they did; so artists would engage in many forms of allegory to circumvent all manner of oppressions...but yes, there is often no other way to express higher themes without code :hi:

[AzDar]

3. Les Bergers D'Arcadie by Nicolas Poussin...... n/t

Et in Arcadia ego....

[bridgit]

4. thank you for your post...

http://etinwebego.chez-alice.fr

[BigMcLargehuge]

5. I love Sister Wendy

her enthusiasm for art is infectious. The most amazing thing I ever saw her do was defend the Piss Christ artist (whose name escapes me at the moment) when being interviewed by Bill Moyers.

Paraphrased -
"All art evokes emotion. And that piece certainly does. Whether you appreciate the asthetic value of the piece is irrelevant when weighed against how it makes you feel. If it make you angry, it's art."

[Fenris]

6. Andres Serrano

And you're right, she's terrific.

[BigMcLargehuge]

7. Yes yes!!!!

Serrano. And Moyers followed up with the question, "Do you like it?"

She replied, "I appreciate his vision."

She is a CLASS act.

[Fenris]

8. It takes guts to say that.

Especially when most people expect that because of who you are, you are going to object to something like a crucifix in a jar of urine. To come out and say that you appreciate the vision of a man who clearly is aiming to provoke you takes a lot.

She reminds me of the nuns I knew through my grandparents - their worldview was very similar.

[Nevernose]

9. Maplethorpe?

Was it Robert (Roger?) Maplethorpe?

Didn't he work with a lot of piss, too?

[bridgit]

19. Mapplethorpe primarily keyed upon leather, flesh & butt plugs...

and the occasional black veil

[bridgit]

13. yup...

:-)

[CBHagman]

15. You're thinking of Andres Serrano.

Yes, I saw that segment, too, and was struck by her openness.

What's interesting is that we have a nun responding to art without condemnation and someone like the morally messy Rudy Giuliani going nuts about, say, Chris Ofili's Holy Virgin Mary being on display at the Brooklyn Museum.

For those who don't recall, there was a huge outcry over an exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum back when Rudy Giuliani was mayor of New York. Among the works on display was Ofili's work called Holy Virgin Mary. It incorporated elephant dung (a material Ofili has used before). If you look at the image below, you won't be able to tell what Ofili actually used (and the controversy did not end with elephant dung).

Pundits kept describing it as "dung-spattered," as though someone had defaced another artist's image of Mary, when it was really was something else entirely.

[BigMcLargehuge]

17. the difference is appreciation for art and the meaning of art

and the appreciation for poll numbers and the meaning of voting blocks. I'll go out on a limb and suggest that Rudy Guilliani wouldn't know Piero Della Francesca from a six pack of Fresca.

[bridgit]

18. ^_^

:-)

[bridgit]

10. coded kick...

:kick:

[LaurenG]

11. She is something!

I haven't watched her in years. Hey Bridget!:hi:

[bridgit]

12. hey there, OhioBlues, how'ya do'in Hon...

:hi: :hug:

[Beware the Beast Man]

14. Sister Wendy is the shizznit.

:thumbsup:

[bridgit]

16. heehee, you said 'shizznit'...

:hi: and you are right, she is the shizznit :thumbsup: