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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:47 PM
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Poll question: Old Greenday vs. New Greenday
I love Greenday's American idiot, and I love the message, but I like their older music so much better. How about ya'll?
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:50 PM
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1. classify old v. new
what is the line?
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:50 PM
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2. American Idiot's their best IMO
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 05:50 PM by mvd
I love all of it.
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:59 PM
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3. i love the message, but i love the older stuff so much better
"good riddance" is one of my all-time favorite songs. i also love "when i come around" and "welcome to paradise."
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Derailer Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:16 PM
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4. Dookie is still my favorite Green Day album
and I've got the T-Shirt to prove it!
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:29 PM
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5. awesome!
at least one person agrees with me! :hi:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:30 PM
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6. Well my opinion is..
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 08:39 PM by mvd
The older stuff a bit too one note compared to American Idiot IMO. On American Idiot, their playing breaks out into something new. All of it is great, though, as I said.
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Derailer Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:40 PM
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12. the thing is
admitting you only really liked Dookie tends to draw reactions like "Grow up already!" or whatnot

Plus its fun to tell people who've never heard of it that one of your favorite albums is "Dookie" too :)

EDIT: and as for American Idiot, if you are going to classify it as "punk" then I liked A Mute Print by A Wilhelm Scream a billion times better from 2004
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:41 PM
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14. Well, I'm not concerned with degrees of punk
Or else I wouldn't also be an Avril fan. I just love what I love.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:14 PM
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19. While we're on the subject of degrees of punk...
Technically, Avril's at -400 Celsius.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:15 PM
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20. Not punk, PUNX!!1
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:18 PM
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22. .
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 09:19 PM by name not needed
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:16 PM
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21. It's more power pop
Which I love.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:54 PM
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17. Since we're talking punk, have you heard the new Propagandhi album?
Now THAT is what political punk rock should be.
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Derailer Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:28 PM
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23. LOL, I never cared for them
I always thought they were like NOFX but after they put out their best stuff (punk in drublic, so long..., heavy petting zoo) and lost their energy. Everything from White Trash on basically. Thats not much to hang your hat on really

But they do have stupid song titles, so thats a plus...I guess
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:32 PM
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24. Their two most recent albums have actually been great...
I'm not a big NOFX fan, so I wouldn't draw that comparison at all, especially with their newest album.

Seriously, download this: http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.net/mp3/propagandhi_diejugend.mp3

And the lyrics: http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/propagandhi/americasarmydiejugendmarschiert.html

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Derailer Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:37 PM
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26. Oh, my bad
I checked out some of their newer releases and they're not melodic anymore.

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Derailer Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:45 PM
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15. you probably don't like the pre-Dookie stuff much then
not very catchy for the most part, less so than Insomniac even. The only song I really remember from it was their Operation Ivy cover (All I know is I don't know nothing)

That was one of the reasons I never got into Billy Joes side band Pinhead Gunpowder. Although their Shoot The Moon EP was fucking amazing
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:30 PM
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7. It all gets a big fat "meh" from me...
Though Dookie and Insomniac were decent albums, and Nimrod had its moments. I've been saying this for ages though: American Idiot is such an overrated album.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:33 PM
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9. It's one of my favs of 2004
Shows how subjective music is.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:38 PM
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10. It's not a bad album or anything...
I just don't understand what makes it so special.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:39 PM
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11. It's like a punk rock opera
I find it very interesting.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:51 PM
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16. I still don't see how that would make it worthy of all the praise it got.
Not like it's something new. Hüsker Dü did it (quite masterfully) back in '84 and The Mars Volta's past two albums have been epic-as-fuck concept albums as well, not to mention the last three Coheed and Cambria albums (even though they're a little Rush-esque). American Idiot, to me, seemed like a typical Green Day album, but with a political undertone and 8 minute songs. Not really worthy of the infininte praise it seemed to garner.

Again, not saying it's a bad album, just that I really don't think it deserved all the praise it got.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:56 PM
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18. Well, I disagree
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 08:58 PM by mvd
What else can we say, primate? It's not like our minds will be changed.

It may not be new, but it's the execution that counts.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:31 PM
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8. I like American Idiot...That's it.
Can't the other stuff.
Duckie
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 08:40 PM
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13. I like Green Day, but I LOVE American Idiot.
It's an opera.
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rppper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:35 PM
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25. green day is the AC/DC of punk.....
pretty much kept the same sound and look for the past 15 years...which is a good thing in my book. nothing better than staying true to your roots. i recall them as always being somewhat political personally, but american idiot's timing was right on. it was a big FU to the clear channels of the country that couldn't afford NOT to play them or produce a dixie chick style protest towards them. say what you will...they opened up a lot of young eyes and hearts to our side with this album...thats the most commendable thing they could have ever done....
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:54 PM
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27. American idiot grew on me
I was iffy when i first heard it but after a while It hit me hard..Give me Novacaine.. wake me up when sept ends...So many great songs on this album..My least fav is blvd of broken dreams.
I didnt much care for Shenanigans ( greendays last album.
but just loved international superhits..and warning.
I love this F'en band
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:59 PM
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28. I like the American Idiot CD and the song "Time of Your Life"...
whichever CD that was on. A friend of mine lent me the CD once but I thought the rest of it was kind of odd.
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