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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:25 AM
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Finland sends in the heavy metal mob for its Eurovision challenge
Finland sends in the heavy metal mob for its Eurovision challenge

Tuesday April 25, 2006
The Guardian


The trauma of losing the Eurovision Song Contest can do funny things to a country. In Finland, where the words "nul points" are burned into the national psyche, they have decided to take radical action and appoint hard-rocking death metal band Lordi as their Eurovision entry for 2006.
A far cry from the breezy folk tunes and ultra-safe pop of traditional Eurovision fare, Lordi have scored hits with songs such as Blood Red Sandman. They wield chainsaws on stage, and never perform or give interviews without wearing their rubber fright masks. Lordi's Eurovision entry, Hard Rock Hallelujah, opens with the lines, "The saints are crippled on this sinners' night/ Lost are the lambs with no guiding light", and goes on to celebrate something called "the day of rockoning".

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the choice of Lordi has been greeted with dismay by religious groups both in Finland and abroad. A group of Greek protesters known as the Hellenes have called on the Finnish government to intervene: "We ask the Finnish Commission of the Eurovision Song Contest to cancel the procedure and choose another song. This evil and satanic Finnish band is not welcome in Greece." (This year's contest will take place on May 20 in Athens).
Lordi's supporters argue that the band could hardly make Finland's Eurovision record any worse. Since the country began competing in 1961, it has never troubled the top five, and on three occasions Finnish contestants have come home with the dreaded zero point score.

"It's been a total failure, it is truly a national trauma to us," says Kimmo Valtanen, the managing director of Sony BMG Music Finland, Lordi's record label.

Lordi's lead singer, Mr Lordi (real name: Tomi Putaansuu) vehemently denies that his band are satanists. "We have absolutely nothing to do with devil worship," he says. "I mean, Hard Rock Hallelujah! Would a satanic band write a song title like that? No. Our second single was called The Devil Is a Loser. Although we are not a gospel band, either."

Putaansuu, an Arctic Laplander, cites classic hard rockers Twisted Sister, Kiss and Alice Cooper among his influences, and admits that he will be surprised and disappointed if his band is eliminated from the competition. "We are bringing rock credibility to the Eurovision song contest," he insists. "I always said that it doesn't matter where you perform. If you do a good painting, it should look the same whether it's on the wall of a museum or if it's on the wall of your toilet."

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1760551,00.html

Should make for an interesting moment - the only other entry I've heard about is the British one, which is just as bad as it ought to be. I really can't wait. :bounce:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:28 AM
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1. "it is truly a national trauma to us..."
Ah...to only have that to be traumatized over... With the negative pre-competition publicity and the fact that the host nation is upset by the choice, I see Lordi doing really well this year. :thumbsup:

Hi TJ! :hug:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:31 AM
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3. Hi MrsG!
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:bounce: :yourock: :hi:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:33 AM
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4. Hi billy!
:loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce: :loveya: :bounce:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:40 AM
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10. Somebody seems to be in a good mood today.
:P
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:47 AM
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16. I'm always happy to see MrsG
You know how that is. I know you feel the same.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:53 AM
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20. Of course, I'm always more than delighted to see her around.
:sherocks:

and indeed, it has to be said as well :yourock:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:12 AM
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25. I feel a group hug coming on
:grouphug:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:14 AM
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27. As do you!!!!
And billy! The morning group is my favorite group! :grouphug:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:23 AM
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31. .
:hug: :loveya:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:13 AM
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26. And I am always happy to see you!
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 05:13 AM by MrsGrumpy
And I have figured out how to post a bunch of happy smileys all at once! After only 3 years here even!!!

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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:37 AM
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7. Good morning Mrs. G.
:hug:

But it really is a national trauma - compared to minor matters such as international vilification for dodgy invasions of other countries, extra-legal prison-camps, rendition; they all fade into insignificance next to the great institution which is the Eurovision Song Contest.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:42 AM
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11. However could I have overlooked that?
;) :hug: It sounds like a tough competition, far worse than the U.S. elections. :rofl:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:45 AM
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13. The contest doesn't have much to do with music.
The voting is all on the basis of national prejudice and hatred (in that sense it is a bit like Republican voting in American elections ;) ).
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:08 AM
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22. Hahahaha....!
So Finland loses because they are A**holes then? :rofl:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:11 AM
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24. They might do quite well actually.
In recent years there's been quite a strong voting bloc around the Baltic Sea.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:14 AM
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28. Do they televise it for you?
I will have to keep my eye on that. Sounds interesting.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:22 AM
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29. Oh yes.
It's run by the European Broadcasting Union - of which the B.B.C. is a part. It takes up a whole Saturday evening with its camp and naffness. :bounce:

It's on 20th May this year http://www.eurovision.tv
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:23 AM
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30. I'm sure you can find it in the US buried on some channel or other
:bounce:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:24 AM
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32. I wonder if it will be on BBC America.
I'll have to run a google search on it.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 08:00 AM
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34. usually there is a live internet stream
At least there was one in the past few years.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:30 AM
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2. I don't understand this "nul points" thing
Nobody ever hears: "<country name>: nul points." When awarding the points, if a country isn't awarded any, they simply aren't mentioned.

I love the Eurovision Song Contest. It's like, we'll never need to have another war, because we can fight it out once a year in a trashy song competition and get it all out of our system. It's genius.

:bounce:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:39 AM
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8. I've always thought that.
I suppose it's a commentary on the fact that all scores are read in French as well as English, and they need some handy phrase to desribe getting a duck.

The Eurovision really is a wonderful institution, as you say, the perfect replacement for warfare. :bounce:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:47 AM
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15. I heard there was a little furore in Australia a couple years ago
because they had always received the BBC feed for coverage of the Eurovision, so they got the wonderfully acerbic commentary by Terry Wogan that we all enjoy. Well, one year they decided to have their own coverage, so they had their own commentator. They were deluged with complaints from people who loved Wogan!

Wogan admitted on his radio show a few months ago that he is always wasted already by the end of the first song :rofl:
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:48 AM
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17. Understandable so
I mean the wasted part. :rofl:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:52 AM
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19. I'd have started a riot
if deprived of Sir Terry - he's half of the fun.
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:33 AM
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5. Germany enters with a Western song
Go figure :eyes:

Wanna bet how much we gonna suck?
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:37 AM
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6. We suck way more than you
:rofl:

Our entry is pretty bad this year. Maybe not as bad as the Gemini disgrace a few years ago, but we shall see... :hi:
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:44 AM
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12. Oh No!!!
You can't beat Guido Horn, no chance :rofl:

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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 10:22 AM
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35. This is scaring me!
I may hide under the bed on May 20!

Or I can think of a fun group of DUers I would like to watch it with: sofa cushions behind us and drinks in front of us!
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:06 AM
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21. dream on

Here:
http://www.viva.tv/Stars/Player/id/69600/asset_id/33445/type/video/inter_id/0

As usual: one TV comedian is in the band, so it might win on the "crap" factor. I say: bring back the "has to sing in the native language" rule.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:40 AM
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9. Don't forget the golden rule of Eurovision:
the crappier the song, the better. :bounce:

Eurovision rulz!
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:45 AM
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14. It is a pain to watch
I think you can only bear it when intoxicated :beer:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:51 AM
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18. I'm intoxicated on natural happiness.
Right from the first few bars of Charpentier played at the beginning, through the dodgy bi-lingual flirtation by the presenters, the highly questionable commentary by Sir Terry Wogan, right up to the tedious voting.

I love the whole thing.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:09 AM
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23. exactly.
One hasn't got to be unconscious to make it through, but it helps. Intoxicated is the minimum requirement.

:toast:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 05:35 AM
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33. "The Day of Rockoning"! This must be Strijka in a new guise!
Anyone (OK, you probably have to be British) remember Ben Miller and Alexander Armstrong's Strijka, the Norwegian heavy metal band? Just a quick hop across the border, and they have a new fanbase.

Among the many characters on view were Armstrong and Miller's most famous creation, the Norwegian heavy-metal band Strijka, which comprised 'Eurorock sexgods' Matthau Tijorkildsen (sometimes spelt Tjoorildtdkjordsvenn) and Mick Gjootemuunden.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/a/armstrongandmill_7770360.shtml


Cliched Scandinavian heavy metal versus bland British hip hop. It's a race to the bottom - but you can always count on another country coming up with something even worse in Eurovision.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 11:24 AM
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36. Ouch. Sounds like bad Overkill. Couldn't they at least pick good metal?
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 11:25 AM by mainegreen
"The devil is a loser and he's my bitch? "

:eyes:
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