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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:55 PM
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Why the hate for Steely Dan?
They were an impressive group - excellent songwriting and very snarky lyrics.

They did make their play on many AM stations in the 70's, but then again so did the Stones.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:56 PM
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1. I don't understand that either.
:shrug:

I love Steely Dan and most 70s prog rock for that matter.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:00 PM
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2. Great "snarky" lyrics. The critics are just a few malcontents.
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 03:01 PM by NNadir
Not everyone on DU has good musical taste.

I like your use of the word "snarky," btw.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:19 PM
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7. Fagen is the master of snarky
Kid Charlemagne is a good example
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:54 PM
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15. I adore Fagen.
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 03:54 PM by WritingIsMyReligion
He's such a lovable malcontent asshole. And a fucking smart one, at that.

:D

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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:07 PM
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19. Thing is, he's very nice and low key in person-
I have a friend who ran their fanzine, MetalLeg, who managed to get me a VIP pass at a show. Met Becker and Fagan and they were both just really cool and laid back. They were in high spirits because it was the last show of the tour. Becker is funny as hell. Fagan is more introverted. It was a real honor to met them as their music has had a powerful impact on my life and it took me through some harrowing times when I was an adolescent.

Fagan's new one is a must have.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:20 PM
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21. You mean MORPH THE CAT?
I've got my eye on it, trust me. ;)

I would kill to meet Fagen and Becker.

:hi:
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:21 PM
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33. Are you talking about Pete?
I met him in Chicago and he gave me his unused ticket for their 1993 show (the first concert after that long hiatus) because I was a fan (I also developed the pics that he shot from that show). He told me to print extras for myself. What a nice guy!
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Ryano42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:02 PM
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3. They are obviously Neocon
Scum :P

:hide:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:51 PM
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12. Oh, yeah, way Bushbots.
:P :P
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:12 PM
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4. i'm afraid they're a bit cerebral
for your average listener, but i love the Dan!
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:53 PM
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14. They're so crafty.
;)
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:03 PM
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17. apsitively!
}(
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:20 PM
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22. Woot!
:evilgrin:
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:33 PM
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25. OMG, not the "WOOT"
*PLEASE* don't get them started on the woot...
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:48 PM
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29. Yeah -- Those Dan Dissers ain't got no smarts !!!
I loves me the Dan! :thumbsup:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:14 PM
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5. Some people don't know a good time if it falls on their faces and wiggles
That's why!
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:13 PM
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32. *snort*
:rofl:

Great visual!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:14 PM
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6. who????
Im not really into classic rock like some of you guys are. I couldnt name one of their songs.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:31 PM
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8. I can never quite get past their name... it's all I can think about
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:46 PM
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9. Oh, I know.
:rofl::rofl:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:00 PM
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16. I'm impressed you know that, Grasshopper... good for you!
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:21 PM
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23. Poor William Burroughs.
:rofl:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:03 PM
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31. You crazy Mainers...
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:12 PM
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26. They said they wanted to give their band a little more thrust...
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:51 PM
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10. 'Cause they're not some fringe indy group who's been
suppressed by "the Man"? There seems to be some serious vitriol around here for so-called "popular" groups--as if liberals are too good for those who made it, and need to support only the starving--albeit talented--musicians out there. I call bull. I'm all for helping those who haven't had "the break"--and probably won't get it, ever--but, contrary to common progressive opinion, not all who are or were "popular" suck. Just look at the 'Stones, the Beatles, Elton John, and, yes, the 'Dan.

:shrug:
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:51 PM
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11. I think some people look at them as being of the same ilk as
The Eagles and Rush: extremely overproduced. I love them, myself. Some types of music are meant to be slick.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:53 PM
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13. I'd rather listen to a thousand hours of the 'Dan and The Eagles
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 03:55 PM by WritingIsMyReligion
than even one hour of, say, today's country-western. There are far worse so-called "musicians" to rag on than Don Fagen and Walter Becker, or Don Henley and Timothy Schmitt.

:shrug:
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:05 PM
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18. So slick they repel water
I don't hate them, but I sure don't understand why people who otherwise appear to have musical taste can tolerate their lite jazz music. Kenny G with vocals.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:09 PM
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20. Um, "Don't Take Me Alive," "Bodhisattva" are lite jazz? What are you
smoking, man, sawdust?
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:24 PM
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24. Mmm, because "Reelin' in the Years", with that guitar, is "lite jazz."
And Steve Gadd's drum solo at the end of "Aja." An absolute bit of "lite jazz." Yeah.

;)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:14 PM
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27. The stuff is far from Kenny G my friend
The guitar solo on Aja...or the solo on Third World Man...or the syncopated bead from The Fez...

They truly introduced jazz concepts into rock...whereas Kenny G just played innocuous pap.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:20 PM
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28. Early Dan, fine
then they got too smooth for me. snarky lyrics aside, too AOR, MOR.

my GF knew a lot of guys in cover bands & that's all they'd listen to - drove her nuts & she got burned out on them.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:52 PM
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30. I liked them but.........
"Hey Nineteen" made me want to go on a killing spree. Really. Seriously.
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