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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:46 AM
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Best Polish contribution to the universe?
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 11:47 AM by jpgray
I'd say babka comes pretty close. Also Kucinich is in there somewhere.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:05 PM
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1. Damn!
I forgot Poland again! :banghead:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:11 PM
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2. I think Kucinich is Croatian not Polish
Whatever the case the Polish have contributed a lot. One of our best generals in the American Revolution was a Pole.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:03 PM
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16. Ah that's right
Must have been thinking of his "kielbasa, polka, bowling = civilization" presentation. :P
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:20 PM
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19. I never got in to polka
but kielbasa is awesome as is bowling and I am not Polish.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:31 PM
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21. Yes, all cultures can appreciate kielbasa and bowling
:patriot:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:32 PM
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22. Except the damned English
;)
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:35 PM
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23. Cursed Limeys with their beef wellingtons and cricket
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 02:35 PM by jpgray
:grr:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:38 PM
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24. and kidney pies
:argh:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:31 PM
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3. Surely it's pretty damn obvious.
Vodka.
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:36 PM
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4. Nicolaus Copernicus
He gave us the universe.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:26 PM
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20. Dang! Ya beat me to it! nt
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:36 PM
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5. That would be me. Polish Princess of Lynn MA
Ask my dad.

Oops, he's in heaven....or hell...probably hell.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:41 PM
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6. Chopin. A titan of 19th century keyboard music, although as a
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 12:52 PM by Old Crusoe
person he was tubercular lifelong and at the peak of his career only weighed 98 pounds.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:48 PM
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11. Frederic Chopin. Without a doubt.
Also, Lech Walesa.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:53 PM
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12. Walesa. You bet. I'll never forget that Solidarity time. What an
inspiration.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:43 PM
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7. Something between Kielbsassa and Copernicus
no preference, really
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:43 PM
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8. Actually, Lech Walesa did a lot to contribute
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 12:44 PM by graywarrior
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:46 PM
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9. The distinction of having the pronounciation of the word change by
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 12:48 PM by Jazz2006
starting it with a capital letter.

Polish vs. polish.



:rofl:


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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:12 PM
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27. Not "best" - but I certainly appreciate their contribution to Bush insult
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 04:12 PM by qnr
fodder, following that SOTU address.

Edit: Bleagh, replied to the wrong post, but I'm not going to change it :)
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:46 PM
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10. Shinola


Oh, wait. You meant Polish with a P, not polish with a p.

Never mind!

:evilgrin:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:00 PM
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36. I can never tell that stuff from shit, really.
:D
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 04:51 PM
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70. Anosmia is more common than people realize n/t
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:58 PM
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13. Polish immigrants to the U.S.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 02:07 PM
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67. yes, I would definitely agree
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:00 PM
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14. Bon Jovi guitarist Richie Sambora
courtesy of his Polish mother.



:headbang:
rocknation
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:59 PM
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15. That would be me
And no, I'm not kidding. :P
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:04 PM
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17. "Carl Yastzemski, Carl Yastzemski, Carl Yastzemski the man they call Yaz"
"WE love him..."
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:18 PM
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18. Ewa Sonnet?



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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:51 PM
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43. Ermm...
reprehensor is sitting next to me and made me back up for that one.

Those are quite.....impressive actually. And I'm not lacking in that department by any means.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:22 AM
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56. supposed to be all real, too
but, I have no idea if that is true or not.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 01:38 PM
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64. They look it.
Fake boobs are remarkably easy to spot. But those are danglers for sure- they don't defy the laws of gravity.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 01:49 PM
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65. well, a good surgeon
Edited on Sun Apr-30-06 01:51 PM by NewJeffCT
supposedly can make them look pretty darn real...

But, I'd have to say that I think she is real, at least from this pic, too. And, she is certainly an inspiration Pole.



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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:26 PM
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25. Ivan Putski.
Polish Power!

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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:09 PM
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26. "Who Stole the Kishka"
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smitty Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:57 PM
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28. My daughter- in- law
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begley Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:17 PM
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29. Pope John Paul
Has a man ever been so beloved by so many?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:19 PM
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30. Some may flame you but I think hes up there for sure
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:27 PM
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33. I'm an atheist, but I'd agree with you
He's right up there among Polish

(I'm half polish myself)
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:38 PM
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40. No Doubt
He is one of the great men of the 20th Century, and on of the greatest Popes of all time. And please save the anti religion stuff right now.
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 04:22 AM
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55. He's done much good in this world, no matter what one thinks of the Papacy
And I'm distantly related to him as well! (half-Polish here).
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:02 AM
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:20 PM
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31. Stanislaw Lem
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:21 PM
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32. Billy Wilder, Sigrid the Haughty, Edward Rydz-Smigly
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 05:22 PM by Fenris
Screen doors on submarines. :P
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:51 PM
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34. Polish notation
Not exactly a superlative - I wouldn't claim to make a call on that question.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:59 PM
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35. thats easy
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:41 PM
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37. Casimir Pulaski
A general in the American Revolution.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:47 PM
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38. Thanks I forgot his name
There was another one too. Kuclusko or something like that. I've heard that Jefferson was heavily influenced by Polish enlightment era writers too.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:37 PM
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39. Thaddeus Kosciuszko
Visitors to the battlements at Ticonderoga, the Saratoga Battlefield, and West Point soon become aware of the engineering genius of a young Polish officer who served with distinction in the Continental Army through, out the American Revolution. In addition, students of ethnic history can point to this same modest nobleman as an early benefactor of American blacks.

For Tadeusz Andrzej Bonawentura Kosciuszko, the principles expressed in the Declaration of Independence became a way of life. Thomas Jefferson, its author and Kosciuszko's close friend, called him "the purest son of liberty . . . that I have ever known, the kind of liberty which extends to all, not only to the rich." Throughout a long lifetime (1746-.1817) the idealistic Pole directed all his energies and substance to the cause of freedom in America and in his native Poland, and to humanitarian endeavors on two continents.

Born into a "land poor" family of the Polish gentry, Thaddeus Kosciuszko received a "gentleman's" education, with emphasis on the classics, mathematics, drawing, and French, followed by three years as student and instructor at the Royal School for cadets at Warsaw where he attained the rank of captain. A royal stipend then enabled the promising young officer to spend five years in France where he studied government and economics as well as engineering, military science, architecture, and art. (Called by his contemporaries "a beautiful limner," he executed likenesses of various leaders of the American Revolution, including a pastel portrait of Jefferson and a devastating caricature of the controversial General Charles Lee.)

On his return to Poland in 1774 he found no market for his talents and, following an unfortunate love affair. he borrowed money on his share of the family estate and went to Dresden. Reports of the American Revolution fired his imagination. Taking passage, he appeared in Philadelphia in August, 1776, and offered his credentials to the Continental Congress.

http://info-poland.buffalo.edu/classroom/kosciuszko/son.html
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:39 PM
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46. Thats it
I am not Polish by ancestry but they got a long and interesting history in our nation.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:48 PM
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41. Kielbasa. Polish sausage.
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 08:52 PM by fudge stripe cookays
Whatever your favorite moniker for it is. Yum!

Actually, our own very hip SusanG ranks right up there.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:50 PM
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42. Mike Krzyzewski.
:loveya: Go, DUKE! :loveya:

yeah, yeah, I know... but he IS of Polish descent.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:30 PM
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44. Kielbassa, General Pulaski, Copernicus, Pope John Paul II.....
Lech Walesa....and a shitload a other great people.


BTW, can someone explain to me why the Poles were considered an "inferior" people by the Nazis, and also by WASP nativists in the early and mid 20th century? If Washington and Jefferson were close friends with Poles, and how did this prejudice come about when they started immigrating over around the late 19th century? I don't think that being Catholic was the only reason, though.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:40 PM
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47. Probably hte Catholic thing and their Slavicness
I don't think it was common knowledge at the time that Jefferson and Washington were friends with them. Meh screw WASP nativists. The Nazis considered all Slavic peoples inferior beings. I think the Nazis had a special hatred for the Polish though because of Poland's large Jewish community.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 10:25 PM
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50. Polish culture has always been one of the most "European"
of all cultures. The WASP nativism is basically a bunch of people claim that they are "whiter than thou." If Washington and Jefferson were alive during the heyday of the eugenics/WASP supremacy bullshit, they would have shut those people up.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 06:37 AM
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74. That is true
Washington & Jefferson would have tried to shut them up - but, they'd get swift-boated, too. These guys would deride Jesus Christ as a wimpy soft tree hugger.


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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 07:46 AM
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61. At the time of the invasion of Poland
The Poles were far inferior technology-wise than the Nazis - it was probably at least partly due to that. How else could a country as large as Poland fall so quickly if they weren't inferior?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:33 PM
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45. Bush's debate points
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:57 PM
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48. Poli-boys
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 09:58 PM by dolo amber
Not really, but as an x-Clevelandr I must say so...:shrug: <----Ha Ha Jon, Shruggy...:P)


Otherwise I'd say pogroms...goddamn Polacks. :grr:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:58 PM
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49. Dingus Day
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:42 AM
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51. The pierogi and the punchky (phonetic spelling)
Had the latter before the start of lent. I've always enjoyed the former. I grew up in an area that was largely Polish, Irish and Lithuanian.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:48 AM
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53. I'll second that and don't forget the cabbage and noodles
What is that called Halluski?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:47 AM
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52. poppy seed muffins
nt
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 11:53 AM
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62. I didn't know that was Polish
I like muffins & bagels with poppy seeds on them.
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 04:20 AM
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54. Poland - the true originator of vodka
Invented by Poles, made famous by Russians.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:49 AM
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57. cute polish boys!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:52 AM
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58. how about half Polish ones?
like me...

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 07:06 AM
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60. that'll work!
:evilgrin:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:53 AM
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59. kielbasa
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:46 PM
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63. pierogi
end of story
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 10:42 PM
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71. They are not unique to Polish people.
They are an Eastern European dish - Ukrainians, Russians, etc. all claim them.

But, as a Ukrainian, I prefer Polish Kielbasa to Ukrainian, hands down.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 01:55 PM
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66. Krzysztof Kieslowski
The Three Colours trilogy, The Decalogue, A Short Film About Killing, A Short Film About Love and a score of other work I'm yet to get familiar with.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 02:35 PM
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68. Frédéric Chopin, innit?
"Right-handed genius" talk notwithstanding.

Leonard Cohen named Chopin's Nocturnes the best music by which to bone. See?
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 02:38 PM
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69. Right now the band Skalpel
If you like downtempo electronica, check these guys out! Skalpel
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 10:45 PM
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72. The 3 dollar bill
:hide:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 12:09 AM
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78. Are you sure that beats the screen-door for submarines?
;-)
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 10:48 PM
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73. Kiwi



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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:06 AM
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76. It's a tossup between Kosciuscko and King Jan Sobieski
The former was an American Revolution vet and rebel leader in Russian-controlled Poland. The latter was the guy who saved Vienna from being sacked by the Ottoman Turks.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 12:07 AM
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77. Marya Sklodowska Curie
'Nuff said.
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