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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:44 PM
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Well, I'm officially heartbroken.
I don't want to talk about details right now, maybe later. I'd just like some hugs and support. :cry:
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:45 PM
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1. Oh honey
That sucks. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:51 PM
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4. Yeah, it does.
Especially when the catalyst was as heavy as this one. :cry:
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:56 PM
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12. If it helps any
I spent half of my 19th year seriously depressed. You will be okay. :hug:
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:45 PM
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2. sorry your heart is broken
:( :cry: :hug: :hug: :hug:

feel better soon.

aA
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:51 PM
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5. We'll see.
I hope so. :cry:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:47 PM
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3. Here's a big herking hug for you.
:hug:

You know where I am.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:52 PM
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7. Thanks.
This is not where I should be at age 19. :cry:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:01 PM
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16. I'm sure it's no real consolation
But's it's where a herk of a lot of folk are at 19. :hug:
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:06 PM
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20. tjwmason is right.
I spent most of my 19th year waiting around to die.

Trust me, it gets better.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:13 PM
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23. This year so far has been totally great.
Until now, and it all fell apart in about five minutes last night. :cry:
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:16 PM
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25. That's how it went for me too.
Then over the course of a weekend, everything changed.

Ah the trials of life with the opposite sex...:(
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:51 PM
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6. For you


:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:00 PM
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15. Thanks.
This really sucks. :(
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:52 PM
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8. I'm so sorry
:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:12 PM
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21. Thanks.
Yeah, me too. Especially considering I can think of a ton of things I could have done differently to prevent it. :cry:
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:16 PM
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83. It's not you, It's her.
You could have been the perfect boyfriend and she still would have messed around on you. Don't blame yourself for something she did. You will just drive yourself batshit crazy nitpicking the past.

And getting mad at the guy isn't worth it because if he never existed then she would have just chosen someone else to cheat with. Yes, you will find that special person eventually, but unfortunately most of us have to kiss a few toads first. :D

Yeah it sucks, but in time it will get better. If you haven't seen the movie Swingers, then I would highly recommend it.



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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:45 PM
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93. "you will find that special person eventually,
but unfortunately most of us have to kiss a few toads first."

That's exactly what she said when discussing the current erm...toad...she messed around on me with. :crazy:

Never seen Swingers...it won't make me more depressed, will it? :shrug:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:53 PM
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9. .
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:56 PM
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11. Thanks.
That at least made me smile a little bit.
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:54 PM
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10. for you
:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

i know how you feel when you said this isn't where you should be at 19
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:21 PM
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32. And yet...it is.
Why? :cry:

Thanks. :hug:
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:33 PM
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41. coming from someone not too much older than you
i remember 19 as being a very awkward and difficult age. just remember you're not alone and there are plenty of people here who will stand beside you
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:36 PM
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44. Yeah, I don't know what I'd do without this place.
There are things I just can't talk to my parents or IRL friends about. :(
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:57 PM
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13. I'm sorry for your heartbreak
You have my sympathy.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:20 PM
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31. Thanks.
:hug:
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:57 PM
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14. Sorry, sweetie.
:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:20 PM
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30. Yeah, and imagine that the other guy is basically a clone of your
roommate's boyfriend.

That's how much it sucks. :cry:

It's not going to end well for her, I think, and that still makes me sad. :(
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:02 PM
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17. Awww, I'm so sorry honey
:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

You're too sweet to have rotten things happen.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:18 PM
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29. Thanks.
:hug:

But I can think of at least one person who doesn't think that. :cry:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:03 PM
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18. Sniff
Sorry, my friend.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:17 PM
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27. Thanks.
:hug:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:06 PM
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19. Awwww Zombie
We've been there. It sucks :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:16 PM
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26. Yeah, thanks.
:hug:

I guess some people are meant to be single. :( I just wish I weren't one of them.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:18 PM
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28. Maybe they are
but we don't know that we are, yet. You are still young. :pals:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:13 PM
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22. Well, I was recently frustrated, though not heartbroken
I know it sucks. Unfortunately for me, I don't get sad, I get kinda angry at myself, and I can tell you that's even worse. So, if you want my unsolicited advice, save your emotions for the situation and don't blame yourself. That doesn't make things better.

Besides, if she doesn't want you, that just means she's not good enough, right?
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:15 PM
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24. Means I was a fucking idiot for ever believing her, is what.
:cry:

Yeah, I get pissed at myself too. Probably more than I am at her. :(
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:24 PM
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34. No... no... no...
Firstly, let me say I've been misled by my fair share of girls. I try to treat them as learning experiences, but unfortunately each new girl has managed to decieve me in some new way I wasn't really prepared for. Example: just because a girl goes out with you doesn't mean she doesn't have a boyfriend. That's happened to me a couple of times. It makes me mad, and evidently you too, but in the end we cannont be held responsible for other people's lies. I hate to say these experiences have made me more cynical, but they have.

I believe that the fault lies with social convention that keeps people operating on a metaphorical and euphamistic level. Instead of getting girls to go out for "coffee" all the time (which is I guess what we kids these days are supposed to do) we should be able to say to each other, "I like you. Do you have a boyfriend/girlfriend and if not would you consider going on a date with me". Unfortunately, saying that makes you look like an overeager clod, so we're stuck in the gray zone.

Don't blame yourself. It's society that's messed up. Well, this particular aspect of society anyway.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:30 PM
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38. It's not like that, though.
This time, since we'd (emphasis on the past, as far as I'm concerned, our association is past over) known each other for eight years plus, we were comfortable enough to take our friendship to the next level without such awkwardness. Or so it seemed, because last night I find out she's been messing around with, get this, her ex-boyfriend from a year ago, who she repeatedly told me she hated now. Whoops, guess not.

Once again, I'm just a fling. Only this time, I got deluded into thinking it wasn't. Stupid me, I never change. :cry:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:32 PM
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40. Beat that other guy up
and dump his sorry ass on her doorstep. That'll show her who's the better guy!

I've never tried this, but what's the worst that can happen?
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:35 PM
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43. I've thought about doing that, too.
And I know I could. :grr: But it won't help anything and will probably land my ass in a load of hot water.

It just kills me that she'd rather got back to the guy who hurt her more than once than be with the guy who's been there for her since she was 11 years old.

Now I can't help but wonder how much of that friendship was even real. :cry:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:41 PM
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49. Well, I've never been in a situation quite like yours before
The girl I refered to in my first post had only been an aquaintance of mine for a few months.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:40 PM
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58. Yeah, I remember that post.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:23 PM
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33. dude, I know how you feel
It's been one year since I got beyond heart-broken. It sucks.
Here's a hug :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:25 PM
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35. It just never fucking ends, does it?
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 03:25 PM by ZombieNixon
:(

:hug:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:26 PM
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36. It never appears to end
But the time will come when you will realise that it ended a while beforehand.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:40 PM
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48. Sage advice.
:hi:
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:30 PM
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37. Here sweetie.
:hug: :hug: :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:31 PM
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39. Thanks.
:hug:
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:38 PM
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46. I know this doesn't help much right now
but you are very young, and you have all the time in the world to find the right woman for you. She obviously just wasn't the one.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:40 PM
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47. Sometimes I just wonder if it's even worth the effort
to try and find a partner. :shrug:
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:33 PM
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42. Here's sending you good thoughts
Hang in there!
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:36 PM
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45. Thanks.
:)
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:42 PM
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50. Yah got it, baby
Hugs, prayers, white light..... whatever is needful.

When you do feel like talking about it.... do. It's silly to think that people you don't know and never will know caring could make a difference. But it does. It really does.

So when you feel the time is right.... talk to us. It matters. OK?


Khash.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:44 PM
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52. Thanks.
:hug:

There are a few details upthread. I just don't have all the answers right and I'm not completely sure what the situation is completely. I really hate this uncertainty more than anything else. :(
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caty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:42 PM
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51. I'm so sorry.....
:hug: :pals: :hug: My thoughts are with you.:hug: :pals: :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #51
53. Thanks.
:hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:32 PM
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54. My dear ZombieNixon.......
I am so sorry, sweetie....

A broken heart is always hard to deal with, believe me......

I know it looks very dark right now, but trust me on this, you WILL recover and go on.....

You WILL......

Give yourself plenty of time, take it easy, don't blame yourself.....

We've got your back.....:loveya: :hug: :loveya:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:35 PM
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55. Thanks, Peggy.
:hug:

I don't know what I'd do without the Lounge. :(

You're right, it does look dark now; couldn't have come at a worse time. I've lost all motivation today. Didn't get out of bed until 2:00 even though I woke up at 7 AM. :cry:
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:36 PM
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56. I won't bother with platitudes.
:hug:

I will say that she sucks. You do not.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:38 PM
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57. Thanks.
:hug:

I don't know. I still love her (in between phases of imagining throwing her against a wall); it's hard to let go, especially give how long we knew each other. It sucks. I don't like it. :cry:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:46 PM
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59. WHO OR WHAT BROKE YOUR HEART ZOMBIE
I WILL CERTIFIED KICK SOME ASS
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:49 PM
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61. My (ex-)girlfriend/long time friend.
Screwing around with her ex-boyfriend (:wtf:) behind my back. I got extremely pissed because she lied to me and basically cut her out of my life.

Though I really want to kick his ass, the douchebag. She deserves him, as far as I'm concerned now. She's in for a(nother) world of hurt from him. :(
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:07 PM
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75. move on babe
you deserve sooooooooo much better
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:27 PM
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86. If only I got what I deserve.
:(
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:47 PM
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60. Heartbreak frick'n sucks!
:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:50 PM
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63. Yeah, no shit.
:cry:

:hug:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 04:14 AM
Response to Reply #63
154. I've spent much of my life working through it. All I can say is...
hang in there and live for the good times!
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:49 PM
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62. The ONLY thing I can offer you right now
is the knowledge that this, too, shall pass. I know, another platitude, but it Does get better. It'll hurt and then, one day, not so much...then a little less...

I know that right now, though....

:hug:

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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:50 PM
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64. I'll take it.
:hug:
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:53 PM
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65. Awww, Zombie
:hug: :hug: :hug:

It never seems enough when someone says "we've all been there, and you get through it in time". It never has for me, but I've always emerged stronger and wiser.

But, right now - feel sorry for yourself. Go ahead. Rant, cry, do whatever you need to. But don't change that wonderful heart of yours. :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:54 PM
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66. I hope so.
I don't want to change, because I like me, by and large.

But I can't help but feel I'd avoid a world of hurt if I just stopped caring about things like this. :(
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:03 PM
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74. If you stopped caring
you'd have to join Free Republic! :scared:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:12 PM
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80. I've always thought it would be easier to be a Republican.
Just as long as you don't let that whole logic and compassion thing get in the way. ;)
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:54 PM
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67. Sorry.
:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. Thanks.
:pals:

Single again...and damn, do I hate it. :(
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:57 PM
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69. Ouch
I never,ever forgot what THAT felt like (I was 20 and I'm 45 now, it did get better of course but Damn...)
I'm so sorry baby, I wish I could help.
:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:00 PM
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70. Yeah, I hate this.
There's no one I can really talk to about this. My parents would ask far too many awkward questions and just make things worse, and you just can't talk to college guys about things like this. :cry:
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:01 PM
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71. Aww

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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:02 PM
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72. Me too.
:(

This blows. :cry:
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:09 PM
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77. I know it hurts but it'll pass.

I'm going for another beer. Want one?
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #77
79. Naw, we've got 11 Heinekens in the fridge.
I shouldn't touch any of them. Alcohol's an emotional intensifier for me. In this state I'll be an emotional wreck if I started drinking.

:hug:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:02 PM
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73. Oh man................
From upthread: "t just kills me that she'd rather got back to the guy who hurt her more than once than be with the guy who's been there for her since she was 11 years old.

Now I can't help but wonder how much of that friendship was even real."


Yes the friendship was most likely very real. But from what you've said she seems too immature to appreciate a guy like you. If she should get back with this boyfriend, let her. As hard as it is you've got to move on. NEVER look back. She may take with the guy, she may have more wild oats to sew. Who knows? The point is whatever she does has no affect on YOU being a great person. It wouldn't suprise me in the least to have her come back to you after she's been dumped by the other guy with several kids of his to care for. Let's just leave it at that.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:09 PM
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76. For eight years, I learned to trust her.
We never once let each other down, I helped get back on her feet when this douchebag burned her and she rebounded on another guy I know who also screwed her over. She let me talk about anything, even the touchy relationship stuff most guys are afraid to ask, and assured me there wasn't anyone else and that she didn't have "flings."

And if that was a lie, what else was, too? Looking back, I realize I've always been a tool to be thrown away when they're done with me. I'm half about ready to give up caring about other people and be one of those jackasses who gets his way in the world by being shady. it sure would make my life a fuckload easier. :cry:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:31 PM
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89. Take it from Dr. bwa
the friendship, the touchy feely stuff was very real. It's just that one thing I've learned is that if you want to be romatically involved with a woman, you CANNOT be her shrink. It's great to do that. But the minute you do she subconsciously links her problems with you. The other guy hasn't had to deal with this stuff. She equates pleasure with the other guy.

I've been this "Friend" with so many women I've lost track. It's my natural tendency to do this, to let the woman cry on my shoulder. But I've got to fight it.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:35 PM
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91. How the hell do you avoid that?
:shrug:

You moment you say you're willing to listen, you're doomed, but to do otherwise just makes you an asshole. :(
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:49 PM
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95. It all starts with you.
When you really and truly love YOU more than anything or anyone in the world you'll attract the women you want. Those who want you to listen will be friends, nothing more. Those who are healed from their misfortunes will be the ones for you.

I'm almost 50 and just learning this.
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:42 PM
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92. I disagree to some extent.
I mature woman is going to want to open up every aspect of herself to the man she loves- her problems at times, but she's still going to want him when it comes to physical pleasures as well. I don't think it has to be an either/or thing there.

However, with a woman who doesn't know herself yet, that may be another story. She may not yet be able to see a lover and a best friend as one person. If she has enough problems that she truly needs to work them over with a professional, she needs to do that as well.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:46 PM
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94. Are there "mature" women my age?
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 07:49 PM by ZombieNixon
Because that's what I want. The "best friend" route is a bummer and I'm sick and tired of it. :(
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:52 PM
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96. I was pretty mature at 19.
Probably not as mature as I thought I was. Back then I didn't know there actually were decent men my age, so I hooked up with an "older guy" (wasn't a great move, but I'll spare the long, gory details). I wish I had better advice because I know how much this stuff hurts. All I can say is that I'm sorry, things will get better (I know it doesn't feel like it though), and you will understand yourself more from the experience.

Big hugs, sweetie. :hug:
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:53 PM
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97. Yeah I see your point.
It's just that initially in the relationship you need to keep it about you and her, not her bad relationships prior to you. A woman doesn't want to hear about all the bad relationships a guy has had. She doesn't want to hear him bitching about his ex.
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:56 PM
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100. I get what you mean there.
It needs to be about why you like one another first. Dealing with the old baggage stuff should come later.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:06 PM
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101. Yes it should.
To deal with all the baggage too soon would be like the guy telling her that he loves her on the second date. It needs to be about them, not their past. Dealing with everything else will come out in due time.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:07 PM
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102. So as I'd been the shoulder-to-cry-on Platonic-friend for years already,
I was doomed from the start? :shrug: :(
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:22 PM
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105. With this woman at this time I'd say yes.
Nothing wrong with being that shoulder for her. That's the problem with relationships. One person wants to be friends, the other wants something more. But again, that's no reflection on YOU. She was just the wrong person for you.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:24 PM
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106. I should have known straight off, given that she initiated the escalation
of our relationship. She was being deceitful through and through. I just didn't see it. x(
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:29 PM
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108. I think she was just wanting both of you,
like some guys would do. In this case I think she was thinking with her vagina. But you're beyond her.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:10 PM
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78. I didn't know Mr. Gray was the one til I turned 30.
And I had been dating him on & off since I was 17, always wandering in favor of the asshole musician who broke my heart over and over. Married an idiot, went through hell with him (musician) and Mr. Gray picked up the pieces. That was in 1976. Took me til 2001 to marry the guy.

Moral: There's hope for you. Live your life first. You won't be single forever. And believe me, there will be times you wish the fuck you were again.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:13 PM
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81. I just wish I could turn off hormones until I turn 30.
:(
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:42 PM
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111. Well, you might have to get yourself a sex partner
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:44 PM
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112. That's what I have to avoid.
I can't have sex without emotional attachment. Just can't do it. Sure wish I could. :(
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:01 PM
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119. Man, you need to breathe and let whatever happens happen.
Act hard to get, mysterious, you know, like they're missing out of something but you ain't telling them what. I was always intrigued when I guy didn't fall all over me.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:03 PM
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120. I don't fall all over women.
I'm usually very reserved...afraid to make the first move in case she thinks I'm weird or creepy. It sucks, I usually turn into a stammering pile of jelly. And then, when one of the few times I don't do that it turns out I've been used, it doesn't make things any easier.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:09 PM
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123. There's your problem. You're giving off a reserved, self concious
vibe. From now on tell yourself you're not there to meet the love of your life. You're just there to meet people. Then ask questions about the other person. Don't talk about yourself...keep asking nice questions about them. Why get yourself stressed over knowing you're not going to meet anyone?
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:11 PM
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124. Oy, I've got issues.
I've played relationship doctor (successfully) for many of my friends at least once, yet I can't get my own shit straight. x(
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:17 PM
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129. Ain't that always the way.
I can find all my friends the best jobs...as for me?
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #129
130. If anything, this reaffirms by belief in the laws of irony.
That and the fact that I found out I have a "nature of love" paper to do. Found this out the morning after a nasty breakup. x(
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:21 PM
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132. What a kick in the arse.
Might turn out to be the best paper ever, being that you're raw.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #132
134. Could be.
The prof's already used to me being contrarian. This'll just be my usual but a bit more of a curmudgeonly asshole. ;)
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #134
152. Lighten up on yourself, dude.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:15 PM
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82. bummer. I hate broken hearts . . .
HOW CAN YOIU MEND A BROKEN HEART

I can think of younger days, when living for my life
Was everything a man could want to do
I could never see tomorrow
But I was never told about the sorrows, and

How can you mend the broken hearts
How can you stop the rain from falling down?
How can you stop the sun from shining
What makes the world go round?
How can you mend this broken man
How can a loser ever win?
Please help me mend my broken heart
And let me live again
Da, da, da, da, da

I can still feel the breeze, that rustles through the trees
And misty memories of days gone by
We could never see tomorrow
No one said a word about the sorrow, and

How can you mend the broken hearts,
How can you stop the rain from falling down?
How can you stop the sun from shining,
What makes the world go round?
And how can you mend this broken man,
How can a loser ever win?
Please help me mend my broken heart
And let me live again
Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
Da, da, da, da, da, da, da

Please help me mend my broken heart
And let me live again
Da, da, da, da, da
Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:18 PM
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84. This one was bad.
I've never had really bad heartbreak before, just rejection, which after one bad night, I'm all better. But this one invloved a much deeper emotional investment, and lying, the one thing I have absolutely no tolerance for...which she knew. :(
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:26 PM
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85. when someone you care for lies to you and hurts you?
that's the worst.

Irish whiskey and some Van Morrison might help.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:28 PM
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87. Alcohol would be bad for me right now.
My inhibitions against causing immense amounts of property damage to the dorm would disappear, but I'd still be pissed off. :scared:

Music helps, though. At least I can concentrate on something then.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:31 PM
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88. Heartbreak is all I know...
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 07:32 PM by devilgrrl
you have plenty of hugs and support here. :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #88
90. Looks to be my fate too.
At least I'll be an expert on something. :hug:
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:53 PM
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98. I LOVE YOU ZOMBIENIXON!!!








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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #98
99. Thanks.
:) :hug:
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:16 PM
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103. :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:19 PM
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104. Never let this happen to you, MMR.
Some people turn out to be douches; stay away from them. :hug:
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:25 PM
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107. Check your inbox.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:29 PM
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109. I'm sorry for what you're going through
I remember getting my heart broken when I was 19, and even though it was a long time ago, the pain is still very real. Here's to better days. :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. Thanks.
:hug:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:46 PM
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113. well, sugar, we've never talked much, but ((( HUG )))
:hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #113
114. Thanks.
:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #114
116. I know it doesn't help much, but
maybe listen to that Gloria Gaynor song "I Will Survive" -- I always like that!

And try just going out and casual dating, maybe take out a personal ad or something? It's always good for your ego to just go out with an attractive person of the opposite sex without any expectations, just being clear that "this is just for fun."

One day at a time, bro, one day at a time. :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #116
118. Yeah, I really should change my dating habits.
I get too involved. It's bad for me. :(
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #118
121. Here is an interesting article
Being "in love" aka. "limerence" vs. "love"

http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/relationships/from_love_and_limerence.htm

this article made me feel better just cause "someone else got it." Just wish someone had told ME about this when I was younger, I always thought that swoopy feeling in the stomach was LURVE. Turns out it's chemistry, mostly. :eyes:


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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #121
122. It was interesting.
:)

And yet, according to that, what I was just in was not "limerence." At least not on my part. :shrug: What was it?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #122
127. Ah, well, there's love *and* limerence.
And lust, too. And you can be in all three at the same time. Scary eh?
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #127
128. Very.
I hate the dating/mating game. x(
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #128
135. Just stop focussing on the goal and focus on the PROCESS.
Ok that doesn't help much, but it is currently working for me.

Of course what do I know, I spent two years not dating ANYBODY at all because I could no longer deal with the dating / mating roller coaster. Then I put up an ad, got a response from a guy I was really hipped on, and then he went POOF (I felt like shit) so I put up another ad and got like a zillion responses and now I feel MUCH better and have like four dates lined up for next week.

You need to cultivate a sense of abundance, you know. The fact is that the world is big and there are a TON of nice girls out there. And you just have to relax and meet them and be open to the possibilities.

No more judging, no more, "Well she's nice BUT--- " just end the sentence with "She's nice" and then see where to go from there....

LOL, I am giving you the advice I am giving myself right now so I don't know if it will really work for you but hey, just be in the moment. Zen and the Art of Dating. :hug::hug::hug::hug:

Hey, Rob Brezny gives kick-ass Horoscope and Life Advice:

http://www.freewillastrology.com/
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:48 PM
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115. That officially sucks, ZombieNation.
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 08:49 PM by Jazz2006
Unfortunately, it is also a common occurrence, which doesn't make it any easier to take, I realize.

But you're a smart, sane, and sensible guy with much going for you, so even though it gets you down, don't let it keep you down.

Wishing for you all the very best to come.

:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #115
117. Thanks.
:hug:

It gets worse every time. :(
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:13 PM
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125. I'm sorry, ZombyNixon
Take care of yourself, okay? And come get as many hugs as you need from your Lounge friends.

:hug: :hug: :hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:14 PM
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126. Yeah, thanks.
:hug:

I've been inside all day; not wanting to do something rash if I go out. The Lounge is like the support group I don't have IRL; I don't know what I'd do without it. :(
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:21 PM
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131. sorry guy!
:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #131
133. Thanks.
:hug:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:27 PM
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136. I'm sorry.
And I'm sorry I'm coming into this thread late.

:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #136
138. Thanks.
:hug:

It's OK, I read everything people say in my threads. :)
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:28 PM
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137. Hugs coming your way.
:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:31 PM
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139. Thanks.
:)
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:32 PM
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140. Awww.
:hug:




I'll be here if you need a good herk. ;)
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #140
141. I know.
That's why I stick around. ;)

:hug:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:38 PM
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144. Bwhaha.
I mean... aww that's sweet of you to say. :P
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:39 PM
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145. Hmm...sweet.
Yeah, that's what they all say.
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:42 PM
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146. What? Sweet is good....
.............. OMG, I can only think of really, really perverted things to say here. Um.. nevermind. Unless you would like a locked thread. :o
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:46 PM
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147. Not this time.
:)

No, in my experience, "sweet" is usually code for, thanks, but I'm not interested. :shrug:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:49 PM
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148. It has many different meanings.
I think. Or maybe that's just me? :shrug:




I was going to say something that involved the words: "sweet", "taste", and "lick." If you want to go to the perverted place, you may. :o
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:51 PM
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149. Strangely, I don't want to go to the perverted place.
;)

Even after two beers. That's how I know something's wrong. :(
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:53 PM
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150. Awww, poor Nix.
Won't even herk with me. :cry:



Really, I have no advice to give. Just hugs and loves. :hug: :loveya: :hug: :loveya:

I know things look bad right now, but it can only get better (and it will.) :)
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:58 PM
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151. Thanks.
:hug: :loveya:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:34 PM
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142. Hugs & support!!!
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:35 PM
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143. Thanks.
:hug:
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 02:13 AM
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153. A late one:
:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:20 PM
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155. Thanks, dude.
:pals:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:24 PM
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156. Here's a hug dude!
:hug:

Hope things get better for you!

:hug:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 12:25 PM
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157. Thanks.
:hug:

Me too...
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