Tom Cruise: You didn't fool us in Italy. So stop pretending now.

[Deja Q]

With the millions you have, you didn't need to globetrot just to pimp your new sequel of a remake of an old tv show. You could have been a human father to your human wife and human baby. Indeed, your name in the headlines alone would have people seeing the movie regardless.

Yet you say you had to "tear yourself" from your family just to be in Italy... (and then the subsequent cities you happened to visit, for which the media starts to flounder... just how many more exotic cities can a person be sad to be in anyway?).

Do you know how many working class people who breed don't have the time because, unlike you, they don't make millions? Only thousands (lower-end 5-digit figures). They can't spend time with their babies. You can. You are not just a breadwinner, you bring in the bread and the flour factory too. All you're doing is being selfish.

Unless you've spent all those millions... and I needn't suggest where because everybody knows how expensive being a member of "it" is... :o

And just what does Scientology say about ditching your family in favor of self-promotion? Especially when you are more than affluent? Most religions aren't keen on that...

Yes, we know you're able to impregnate. Nearly 3 billion other men have done it too. Yet the media treats it as if it's some sort of miracle... so, what's your issue - apart from egocentrism that makes me come across like Gandhi by comparison? What are you hiding? Oops, I just remembered. :blush:

In short. The more you try, Tom, the worse you end up looking. And that does you, Katie, and little Suri no good at all.

[Gormy Cuss]

1. Hypnoslam!

Nice job.

But that was a cheap shot at the end ("In short")-- He didn't choose his stature,
he was born that way.;-)

[Deja Q]

2. I just fail to understand why a man in his position would rather

stay away from his new family, in favor of drawing attention to his new project that'll undoubtedly net him dozens of millions more with ease.

Combine it with my sarcastic persona (which can be seen in anything I post on any forum) and voila...

So he was born a consciously selfish jerk then? :D (He's not gay and I'll believe that...)

[Gormy Cuss]

4. As a public personality for all of his adult life, Cruise must be aware

that his statements like this are relevant to his public persona. I don't doubt that he manages his public image very carefully and that an actor of his stature doesn't getting dragged around to do promotions unless he chooses to do so. What's weird about it is that he's making such a big deal about it.

[L A Woman]

3. what a weird post

have you ever met tom cruise? he has a job and it is generally part of an actor's contract to do a certain amount of promotion for a film. he is not the first father to have to spend time away from his children. suri will survive. is this keeping you up at night?

i don't understand all the tom cruise hate. i thought hating people was only an enjoyable hobby to those on the "other side." i mean, i can understand if it's someone like ann coulter or rush limbaugh - people who actually damage our society - but tom is just a little weird. big deal. we are all a little weird. he is also a liberal and a by all accounts a hard-working, decent person. and quite frankly, i think he contributes a great deal more to society than people whose goal in life seems to be how many posts they can accumulate on an internet message board.

:rant:

[Deja Q]

5. No... But I'm surprised pro-family fundies aren't concerned... and,

He's a liberal? Tell me how.

It's clear he dislikes gays.

He also supports a cult. Cults demand money, religions only ask nicely for it.

And, BTW, he is a role model - whether you like it or not. After all, people look at him by what he does. Media personalities and celebrities tend to be like that. Anyone who is high profile is a role model to some extent. Therefore he has a responsibility. But he's no better than Coulter or Limbaugh because he only cares about himself and proves it at every opportunity.

Also, as for hollywood, all it does is dumb people down via cheap glossy entertainment that caters to the lowest common denominator. And, quite frankly, how the hell is dumbing down society helping anyone?

[Crazy Dave]

9. You brought up good points

I hate all this band-wagon Tom Cruise bashing and hating here lately. All this crap reminds me of the Hannity's and the Limbaughs whenever someone says something they don't like or something different than their beliefs. They scream for boycotts, call them names and smear their reputations over and over. I thought as a society we'd be higher up the food chain by now.
So people think scientology is some crazy shit? I think Adam and Eve, world-wide floods, flying angels and devils are pretty crazy and silly shit myself and instead of claiming to be experts in psychology, all of the rest of the Hollywood celebrities claim to be experts in foreign policy and world economics but everybody still worships and idolizes them so why pick on Tom Cruise and only Tom Cruise?

[skygazer]

11. A lot of people take issue with Tom Cruise

because of his public statements about things like postpartum depression and the way other people rear their children. He's made a point of telling people (and he has a huge audience precisely because he IS a celebrity) that they're wrong and he's right.

I have no problem with people being wierd, or having their own opinions, but I do have a problem when people put down others' choices or tell them they're somehow "wrong."

Tom Cruise, by his own actions, has put himself in a position wide open for ridicule. He slammed Brooke Shields for taking anti-depressants, he's declared that he can cure people of addiction in a matter of hours and he tirelessly promotes Scientology, not quietly or modestly but by using his fame to advance what is at best a very shady "religion."

And I think that's what bugs people about him. Also, I've never read anything about the guy that makes me think he's a liberal.

[Crazy Dave]

14. There's no denying he's full of shit...

...but I'm against trying or wishing to ruin his career. He has his rights to his opinions and people have the right to disagree with him but it's kind of hard for me to take a public figure's advice let alone let them offend me when they don't even know me. This crap though of wanting to give him the Tim Robbins, Dixie Chicks treatment and get everybody else to do the same is ridiculous in my opinion as it's such a non-issue and is equal to and the same as the right-wing hate tactics that they use so well and effectively against people they declare their enemies. "You're either with us, or you're against us" :grr: :puke: People are dying by the thousands every week in Iraq, a gay person can't marry the person they love and we're getting "intelligent design" taught and paid for with our tax dollars. To me that's the kind of things I'm pissed about and if scientology ever goes on a murderous crusade, an inquisition or jihad, then I might have a problem with them.

Like I said, personally I think he's full of it and himself but if he makes a good movie like say "Rain Man" again, I'm going to see it or buy it.

[leftyladyfrommo]

6. Seems like he is destroying his own career.

He has just become so odd.

I wouldn't cross the street to see one of his movies now.

[barb162]

10. He has so many millions, he doesn't ever need to work

He is so over-publicized

[leftyladyfrommo]

16. Yea, and that can be really bad for an actor.

All of the movie mags are just dissing the hell out of him right now - its all negative. That has got to have an affect.

[Haole Girl]

7. Edit: I just couldn't say that after reading L A Woman's post!

Edit again: The man is irritating L A Woman, I'm sorry. I just don't like having to hear about him all the time; what his religion is, how he kisses, how he jumped the couch....it goes on and on and on!

[Deja Q]

8. Exactly. The phrase "disproportionate coverage" comes to mind.

Especially for something billions of people have done before.

I swear, if Cruise prepared a packet of instant pudding, he'd get the media to say it as means to show he's a manly heterosexual too...

I don't care what he does. But when the media harps on something or someone too much, it becomes rather easy to ask "why".

[L A Woman]

12. i am tired of hearing about him, too...

but i don't hate him. it's not his fault the media jumps on everything he says or does.

ps - i don't know HOW liberal he is, but he did donate to Kerry's campaign and was a big Clinton supporter back in the day. I have never seen any evidence that he is anti-gay in the least. Some loser gay porn star accused him of having an affair with him and Tom fought back with a lawsuit and won. Good for him. Imagine being a straight man with a wife and children you love and having someone say that about you. It was a lie and greedy liars need to be made examples of. That doesn't mean he is anti-gay - it means he is anti-greedy liar.

[AmyDeLune]

15. I don't hate Cruise, but I hate what he's done with his celebrity

No one made him go out in public and bash psychiatry and anti-depressants. Like it or not, there are those who will possibly not seek help that they need or prevent others from doing so because of his statements.

No one forced him to make a spectacle of himself on Oprah.

No one forced him to promote Scientology so, er, "vigorously".

He is in the media spotlight because he chooses to be so. There are many other actors and celebrities who manage to keep their private lives private. He doesn't have to do the things he does in public.

I never thought he was "all that" to begin with. A competent actor, but not brilliant. Now whenever I see him (and he seems to be everywhere) all that comes to mind is "Crazy Tom Cruise", I can't suspend my disbelief enough to buy him as a character in any film anymore.

He is doing an excellent job of wrecking his own career no matter what people on message boards say about him. I don't care if he's gay or straight, I don't care if he believes that giant cheese-eating moon-moths created the universe, I just don't want to hear about him anymore!!!

[Giant Robot]

13. I'm with you hypnotoad

I refuse to see anymore of his movies. After his rant on psychology and psychiatry, which was ignorant, ridiculous and condescending, I was done with him. With the way he carried himself there, he came across as all-knowing for the masses to follow, and certainly some people will. And he will be doing them a disservice by limiting their options and opportunities for them. There may be some good in Scientology, and certainly I agree with the aspects of leading a healthy lifestyle, but the views on psychiatry are ludicrous. If he had come out and said he would never take an anti-depressant (and just to clarify Ritalin is not an anti-depressant Tom)that would have been fine. But he did not do that. He painted all of psychiatry as evil, and that will have repercussions that I will no longer help support by seeing his movies.

I don't really care that he has had a baby or whatnot. Congrats. But shouldn't he be home being a dad for a little bit rather than out doing movie promos? I am pretty sure I read he canceled some engagements prior to the birth, but now can be available for all the publicity? Whatever. Last thing, why have we not heard from Katie during this entire experience? Well, on second thought, I haven't paid that much attention so maybe she has been a public face to this and I haven't noticed. Rant over.