Freeper cruelty---Pure hate directed against jimmy Carter

[Zuni]

I do not see how people could hate Jimmy carter with venom like this. Carter is one of the few honest people that we have had as a President.

These guys also hate Canada, so I guess this is par for the course

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1036492/posts

read the post by GrampaDave---where he promises to urinate on Carter's Grave.

[Don_G]

1. There's No Logical Basis For Hate

As far as I know.

I do hate asparagus but only because it smells worse than skunk poo to me.

[CO Liberal]

17. There's No Logical Basis for Being a Freeper, Either

:-)

[supernova]

2. Ewwww.

I need a shower now. :scared:

[theivoryqueen]

3. has anyone logged on to their boards to ask them why?

it could be interesting.... not sane, but interesting.

[MissMillie]

13. I won't even go in there to read their venomous garbage

certainly not against the most moral man ever to sit in the Oval Office.

[terrya]

4. My estimation and respect for Jimmy Carter has only increased

Over the years. Yes, he did deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. His public service over the years has been worthy and beneficial.

Those free republic people don't know what the fuck they're talking about. And as for them hating Canada, that's just a sign of incipient insanity.

[Bertha Venation]

16. Incipient insanity?

I'd say it's full-blown, mature and ripe insanity, bellowing over the landscape in great moist, putrid waves.

[terrya]

20. I stand (or in my case right now, sit) corrected, Bertha.

Ok, so I was being charitable. :-)

[Bertha Venation]

24. that's just one of the things I like about you, Terry

you're charitable

Wanna come to Waldorf & help me look for a one-legged homeless man? <wan smile>

[ET Awful]

30. Maybe he meant insipid insanity :) :) :)

[roguevalley]

32. They don't know just how revolutionary Carter and his thoughts on

how people should treat each other in the world were.
Its sort of like explaining how important and big the
Beatles were to someone born in 1989.

[RandomKoolzip]

5. Jimmy Carter got a RAW deal.

I always liked the guy. He was the first president I ever remember seeing. I was born in 75. Great on foreign policy, a kind, well-meaning man, a saint. Truly wanted to make this world a better place.

However, the economy DID tank big time under his watch. Just playin' devil's advocate...

[Zuni]

8. All very true

Jimmy carter was not the most effective President. But he wanted to do the right thing. And he practiced what he preached. He didn't waste energy for example.

He was a good man, and I like him a lot, especially for the humanitarian work he does.

[RandomKoolzip]

15. And I suspect that the economy tanking really wasn't all his fault....

There are many factors besides who the president is at the time. Unfortunately, it set the (false) cliche in stone about Dem presidents and bad economies...and that sucks, because the picture wasn't black and white like that. And Reagan's economic policies were DIASTROUS! Remember all the homeless people during the Reagan years?

[Zuni]

22. very false cliche

Because the Clinton economy was the strongest we have had in decades.

But the Pres often has little control of the economy in reality. It was not Carter's fault.

[VOX]

49. Freepers selectively forget Gerald Ford's "Whip Inflation Now" campaign...

We started headed into the toilet when the Nixon wage-price freeze was lifted, and there were shortages (gas, energy, water, beef) long*before* Carter was in office.

Carter is a fine man, and one of our best presidents -- Freepers also selectively forget the Camp David Accords, where America practiced *diplomacy* instead of dropping bombs.

Carter is the anti-Bush. Everything Bush is advertised to be, Carter *is.*

[mmm]

6. Carter is a great man by any standard

Amazing that anybody hates him anywhere

[Bertha Venation]

7. They've got to hate somebody.

It might as well be one of the gentlest, kindest men on the planet. He may not have been the most effective president, but by God he was a man in that office.

And look what he's done since. Involved w/ Habitat for Humanity, the Carter Center, he's a fine author & poet, and god dammit, he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Look at the hatred, venom and pain among Freepers. They have an arguably worse president than any in history in office right now, and they know it. They can't bitch about their own guy (why, that would be unpatriotic!) so they choose a finer man than their guy will ever be.

Pharisees, every last one of 'em.

[Zuni]

9. good points

Carter has worked so hard to make this world a better place. I am proud he was a US President.

[prole_for_peace]

10. holy crap!!

the venom directed at him is amazing. i don't understand it at all. i can't believe i actually read that stuff. my eyes are burning.

[joefree1]

11. Don't go

Stay away from the toxic waters at Freeperville. Meet them at protests where they wimp out from any actual discussion of the facts.

"If you have no enemies, it is a sign fortune has forgot you."
- Thomas Fuller (1608 - 1661)

[GOPisEvil]

12. Jimmy Carter is the most decent man to be President in my lifetime.

He's also the only President whose hand I have shaken. He is a VERY good man. Anyone who could hate him is unworthy of my respect.

[Zuni]

18. Even if one disagreed with him politically

It still makes no sense why you would hate him. He is such a decent fellow. He has worked so hard to make the world a better place.

[louis-t]

23. I almost shook a president's hand

or I should say I shook an almost president's hand. Hubert H. Humphrey
in 1968. I was 12. Shook it twice. Damn, I wish he'd won. Yes, Carter was the finest man ever to become president.

[Swede]

14. Maybe if he just went golfing and got $$$ for his name as a bullshit

consultant they would love him. But no, he has to go and build houses for poor people,that bastard!

[TrogL]

They are truly mad.

Isn't "The Andy Griffith Show" still considered the best of all TV comedies?

By whom? People who consider "Little House on the Prairie" to be the epitomy of high drama??

[On the Road]

19. Look Where Carter's Administration Ranked in Job Growth

You may be surprised:

[Zuni]

25. Now that is interesting

Only beaten by Clinton and Reagan. I wonder what the Freepers would say about this!

[louis-t]

27. This is amazing! This should be e-mailed

to everyone you know, to all of the news channels (not that most would show it), to nitwits like Coulter, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, et al: over, and over , and over, until they get it. My father used to say "Republicans can't stand it when everyone (meaning the little guy) has a few bucks in their pockets."

[never cry wolf]

48. Cheap shot!!

Yu shud no that wens theirs lots of jobs than corpurashuns have too pay more fer laybur.

wens theirs more unimployment they can by cheep and make more profut. Gud fer corpurashuns, gud fur murikans!!!

[noonwitch]

21. Carter is too good and honest of a man to have been an effective president

Let's face it, the american people seem to like to elect liars to office, then get pissed off if they lie about sex, but pretend it never happened when they lie about how they perform their jobs.

[Liberal Veteran]

26. Theirs is the rage of Caliban at not seeing his own face in a glass.

They freepers think of themselves as civil, honorable, compassionate, loving, intellectual, and highly moral. Carter actually is all those things, but he is not one of them, therefore it sets up a sort of dissonance that they express by attacking and raging against a symbol of the very thing they claim to be.

[louis-t]

28. Which really proves

that they are not civil, honorable, compassionate, loving.....

[wakfs]

29. Wait a minute...

...are these some of the same people whose votes we're so worried about not getting next fall?

[Swede]

35. No.

[NoPasaran]

31. Some good news though

I don't think I watched any comedies after
"Happy Days" and "Joanie Loves Chiachi" left the air.

I don't think they'll be developing nukeyouler weapons anytime soon.

[louis-t]

34. Which explains the stunted sense of humor,

or lack thereof, of most of the freep posters.

[louis-t]

33. Jeez, I really hate the freep format......

and I'm still looking for the 'why' as in why do they hate Carter? He is criticized for the hostage situation, then criticized for trying to rescue the hostages. If he hadn't tried to rescue them, he would have been criticized. Yet Saint Ronnie is given credit for saving the hostages because the terrorists FEARED him so much. What a laugh. Negotiations were completed months before Reagan took office. The only reason they kept them longer was to rub Carter's face in it longer. If Carter had won in '80, the hostages would have been home much sooner. I defy any freeper to argue that point.

[YNGW]

36. I hate to bring this up, but....

there was a poll conducted here in the Lounge a week or so ago that said something about "peeing on Bush's grave", and I've seen fellow DUers say some pretty outrageous things, so the Freeps don't have the market cornered in hate speech.

I dislike anything like this, from them and from us. Lead by example.

[Liberal Veteran]

38. I disagree....

Carter is an intelligent, honorable, kind, caring, compassionate man who has spent his post-presidency life in trying to make the world a much better place.

Bush is and always has been a self-centered spoiled frat boy who seems to have little regard for non-American human life and is a petty tyrant who willfully tries to impose his very provincial and fundamentalist religious beliefs on others.

One has truly earned respect while the other has earned contempt and there is nothing wrong with stating that.

[YNGW]

39. Of course you disagree

That's your opinion. The Freeps have their opinion and they're quite the opposite of yours. So if we can do it, they can do it, too, and vise-versa. I don't see why the original writer would be surprised at seeing something that we also routinely do over here; that is, attack their guy and prop up ours. The pendulum swings both ways.

[Liberal Veteran]

40. Don't presume to lecture me...

There are plenty of republicans I actually have respect for, because I judge people by their actions, not their party affiliation.

Jimmy Carter is a decent person. He is a moral and honorable person of outstanding character even if you disagree with him politically.

The same simply cannot be said for Bush.

Would I bash Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt simply because they were republicans? Of course not. Both were decent men and good leaders.


Would I praise a person simply because they are democrats? Of course not. Some of the things I have said about Traficant, Lieberman, and Zell Miller were very unkind, but reflective of my contempt for them regardless of their party affiliation.

There is a distinct difference between criticising someone for their actions and bashing them simply because they have a letter by their name that isn't the same as mine.

[YNGW]

42. I didn't.

>>There are plenty of republicans I actually have respect for, because I judge people by their actions, not their party affiliation.<<

I never said you didn't.

>>Jimmy Carter is a decent person. He is a moral and honorable person of outstanding character even if you disagree with him politically.
The same simply cannot be said for Bush.<<

Once again, that's your opinion as compared to the Freeps, which was my point.

>>Would I bash Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt simply because they were republicans? Of course not. Both were decent men and good leaders.<<
Would I praise a person simply because they are democrats? Of course not. Some of the things I have said about Traficant, Lieberman, and Zell Miller were very unkind, but reflective of my contempt for them regardless of their party affiliation.
There is a distinct difference between criticising someone for their actions and bashing them simply because they have a letter by their name that isn't the same as mine.<<

You indirectly made this point already in your earlier post.

And the Freeps will take every point you make, turn it to their point of view, and say the same thing, a point I already made.

I'm not arguing with you or anyone else. But you can say all day "So and so should be bashed because of X, Y and Z, but this person is this, that and the other and should not be bashed", and some will agree and some won't. But both sides of the fence have their own who incite hateful comments and I'm not going to sit here and pretend like it doesn't happen.

I'm equally unhappy with those who would say they want to deficate on Carter's grave just as much as I am to those who say they want to do the same to Bush. Disagreeing with policy is one thing, but this type of attitude is uncalled for.

We need to rise about that.

[Paranoid_Portlander]

37. Do the freeps hate Carter because...

... he granted full amnesty to the Vietnam protesters?? I really don't know. The freeps seem to really like war. Most of them have probably forgotten the amnesty. It's ironic that amnesty means forgetting.

[Zuni]

44. No they hate him because he is too sensible

He opposed the Iraq war. He will publicly disagree with a Republican President. That is why they hate him.

[TEXASYANKEE]

41. I thought this was unpatriotic?

Isn't it unpatriotic to bash a President? Or is it only when one bashes the person currently sitting in the Oval Office?

[Zuni]

43. Clinton?

No it is only unpatriotic to bash a Republican President---especially if he is a right wing crony capitalist fundie.

[Rhiannon12866]

45. I didn't have the heart to read that one

I am always sorry when I go to Free Republic, but I think this particular hatemongering would upset me more than most...:grr:

[kodi]

46. anyone who hates jimmy carter probably hates themselves more

carter is what we are taught in school american presidents are supposed to be like.

[Lisa]

47. given that Bush's image is based on pretending to be like Carter ...

... honest, humble, raised in the country ... well, gee. I guess there is some truth in "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", since Bush is pure imitation.

Carter has more integrity in his fingernail clippings than George W. has in his entire body.

Sticks and stones, folks. They might as well throw straws at a granite mountain. When the time comes, if it turns their cranks to urinate on a real President's grave, I hope they do it. Then they'll look like the idiots they are.

[drfemoe]

50. freepers don't have a patent on cruelty

just slink through GD sometime ...