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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:01 PM
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Just Got Back From Barnes & Noble Where I HID All The NeoCon Books!
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 03:02 PM by GalleryGod
Merry Christmas to YOU!:kick: Friggin' 5th Columnists!
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:02 PM
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1. Badass!!
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:04 PM
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2. I've done that before...
but then I felt bad for the people who work in the store...I don't really like to make more work for them. I'm probably being silly,but......:shrug:
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:44 PM
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26. I worked at Barnes and Noble for years
and that sort of thing would bug us, BUT it wasn't nearly as bad as people who would get a stack of 20 magazines and then not put them back etc.
I'd say if it's for a good cause DO IT!
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:04 PM
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3. I flip around all the neo-con material at my student bookstore.
Sometimes, I slip them all (Coulter, Hannity, O'Reilly) behind the books by Michael Moore, Greg Palast, Al Franken, James Carville, etc.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:05 PM
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4. Yep, nothing like being in America, where you have the........
freedom to read whatever you want.

Grow up.
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:12 PM
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14. I'm with you, BDL...
To be liberal is to be unafraid of other views. We can face them head on and don't need to resort to their tactics to win.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:36 PM
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24. Well, I'm a liberal...
And I'm sick of the current neocon views being thrusted down everybody's throats with everybody else in the background.

Childish, maybe, but I applaud such actions and I do the same thing myself.

I'm not afraid of their views. I'm disgusted by them.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:03 PM
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32. Hiding books doesn't help.
It only gives them another thing to point their fingers at, so they don't have to engage in real argument. Don't give them material.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:28 PM
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51. I agree.
People have the right to read what they want to read, isn't that what we've been saying all along? Look at the reaction many of us had on here when we heard all the stories, some from DUers' personal experiences, about Hillary's book being hidden, or those buying it being harassed by the repukes. We were rightfully angry and infuriated that people thought they had the right to tell us what to read.

Well, it's the same thing turned around the other way. If someone wants to read a filthy ranting repuke piece of trash for a book, that's their choice. You don't have a right to determine that for them any more than they have to determine it for us.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:36 PM
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55. "Grow up," hell!

As the Dead Kennedys so poignantly stated:

I'd rather stay a child
And keep my self-respect
If being an adult
Means being like you!

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:44 PM
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56. If acts like this have anything to do with keeping your self-respect,...
I'd say you've got some twisted sense of self respect. And I suspect the members of DK would too.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:26 AM
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63. yes and we also have the freedom to make a statement
about what is garbage. Freedom extends in all directions.
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VT70 Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:06 PM
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5. That's lame
I must say. If freepers had done that to our books, we'd all be screaming bloody murder. We don't have freedom of speech in America for nothing, you know. That's a private establishment and a bad thing that you did.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:09 PM
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7. Coulter's at least belong in the fiction section. Seriously
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 03:26 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
Come on, this stuff is destroying civilization as we know it.
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:06 AM
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57. attempted censorship
is far more corrosive to democracy then the free and unfettered exchange of ideas. Put the showe on the other footer..."Freepers hide all left-wing books" would generates threads of disgust at DU as we accuse them on Nazism, etc.

Lay-off the vigilante censorship, folks. It makes leftists look bad. I am mortified at soem of the things people do in my name.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:08 AM
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58. Fair point, but I still consider her books to be fictional.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:09 PM
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9. you do realize half the time it's to clean up freeper messes
Believe me - they do it too!!!
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VT70 Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:12 PM
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16. I know they do,
and if it was my bookstore I wouldn't care, lol, but I would not do this to someone else's property.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:48 PM
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29. So bad Freeper behavior should be emulated?
I don't think so.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:31 PM
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21. Free speech is not implicated in this
A private individual turning over books in a private book store has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitutional concept of "free speech." A "bad thing?" Please. Give it a rest.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:05 PM
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33. It's not a "good thing," that's for sure.
It's certainly not going to do anything but close minds. That's counterproductive.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:31 AM
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64. It's not counter productive, it's a statement
stop with the hand ringing, people will fight back in their own way.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:30 PM
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52. Turn it around the other way, and
remember how we all feel when the freeps do the same thing to our books and magazines. We had a right to be furious, and it's the same thing here. Hiding books is hiding books, no matter what they are.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:08 PM
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6. Our new library opened yesterday. Went in, saw Coulter's book,
took it straight to the fiction section. Where it belongs.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:50 PM
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47. LOL!
Now, THAT's a good idea.

The difference between "our" books and theirs are the ours are right and theirs are wrong. ;)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:09 PM
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8. That's my favorite hobby at bookstores
Other than my local bookstore. The owners asked me not to do that there and I obliged.
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tekriter Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:10 PM
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10. If you REALLY wanna piss 'em off...
hide the crayons.

:evilgrin:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:10 PM
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11. Pu-leeze tell me it wasn't the one in NW Houston...
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 03:40 PM by Richardo
...I've got to go reshelve there tonight.

Let's see:

1) Take all sex books out of the religion section
2) Take all religion books out of the sex section
3) Take all gay/lesbian books out of religion section
4) Take all religion books out of the gay/lesbian section
5) Reshelve a couple of hundred "manga" books
6) Reshelve about a thousand magazines
7) Turn around/resort all political books

etc
etc

Have fun, I guess, but :eyes:
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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:09 PM
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35. Don't forget
to take all the porn out of the Kid's section. (a fave in my store)
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:12 PM
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36. Right. And the 700+ home decorating books out of the cafe...
...and reassemble the wedding planner section. :evilfrown:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:32 PM
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54. ROFLMAO!
Yes, indeed, I've witnessed that myself at a couple of my own local bookstores.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:11 PM
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12. Good for you, but I wouldn't have the nerve.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:11 PM
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13. Maybe shoulda burned them.
Ever hear of that idea? Think we're gonna win the war of ideas with such pranks? We need more books in the marketplace, not less. I would never buy any of the Coulter/O'Reilly books, but my distress is with the lack of courage on our side in standing up to them, not their books' existence.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:12 PM
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15. Why?
I would hate wasting my time taking a long ass bus ride to the library to pick up a book I wanted to read just to find it missing.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:19 PM
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17. Yes, but I doubt you're making that longass trip....
Just to check out Ann Coulter or some other fundie screeches lies

:D
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:23 PM
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19. That wasn't my point
My point was I wouldn't want to take a trip to the library to discover that the book I wanted to check out was hidden. Whether I am a republican a democrat shouldn't matter, if people want to check out Ann Coulter they should be allowed too and people shouldn't hide a book just because they prefer not to read it or they don't want other people reading it.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:06 PM
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34. Don't you feel we owe it to the public
to make sure these books are classified in the proper category. 99% of the crap that Ann Coulter writes are pure misinformation and fallacies - to me that is fiction!!!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:45 PM
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28. Yup!
This sort of thing is just child's play. It serves no good purpose.

Cheers!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:21 PM
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18. Isn't that just a LITTLE bit immature of you?
All you really accomplished was to inconvenience the store's employees.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:27 PM
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:39 PM
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25. What does age have to do with anything?
I just turned 17 and I wouldn't spend my time at the library hiding books so others who waste a trip over there can't find them, also make the job harder for those who store books on shelfs.
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:03 PM
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31. okay teen. you make a good point
And I wasn't trying to smear ALL teens with my comment. I guess that now that I'm over 30, I see such immature behavior as "teen-like." But you're right. There are plenty of smart and mature teens who would never do such a thing. And I guess you're one of them.

I probably wasn't, when I was your age. So you're one step ahead of me. Okay?

Peace.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:16 PM
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37. Oh I know
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 04:16 PM by VermontDem2004
It is childish behavior no argument here, my point was that age is just number and you can find immaturity at all levels. :hi: Sorry if it seemed like I overreacted because I think I did.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:35 PM
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22. I just place Al's, Michael's or Pitt's books in front of any of
Ann's, Bill's, or Sean's that are facing forward.
My little bit to beautify the place.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:35 PM
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23. Hehe . . . I do that too, but only if they are displayed "in your face"
to encourage attention.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 03:44 PM
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27. Great, another new game that will go back and forth.
I'm bound to lose time looking for a book I want because some dumb Freeper took revenge on this type of action. Way to go. Woo hoo! This really helps the cause.

You could have been reading or working on a campaign or exercising, just about almost anything.

Heck, drink a beer! Now that's a constructive use of time.
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RossMcLochNess Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:02 PM
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30. It does nothing but...
piss off the employees. If someone wants to buy O'Reilly's book and can't find it, he'll ask you. Then I'd take him to the section. If its not there, we'll look it up on the computer and see that yes, the store does have it in stock. Then we waste time looking around for where you hid it. The person still buys the book once we find it. All you've done is make an employee mad, that customer mad, and other customers who actually need help finding books mad. Bad idea. Its pretty childish and serves NO purpose. I doubt it has ever prevented a sale. At worse, you're sending the business to another bookstore. The person will still buy it. All you've done is screw the store not the author. Take it from someone who used to work at a bookstore.
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Liberal Christian Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 04:37 PM
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38. I confess!
I haven't hid the neo-con books, but my sister and I did (temporarily) hide the two new Tamora Pierce books, moving them from Young Adult to travel behind some atlases, just until my nephew was ready to leave the store. We didn't want him to know the new one was out yet. We did put them back before leaving.

I have been known to just turn some faced-out books so they are spine-out, and put the books I would like people to notice so they are face-out, but I don't move them to other sections.
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scottcsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:00 PM
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40. Sounds pretty childish to me
Why hide the books? If I go to the bookstore I'd like to be able to find the books in the section they are supposed to be in. Hiding "neocon" books throughout the store is not very mature. Are you a grown adult? Not to mention the fact some under-paid B&N clerk will have to spend extra time collecting the books and putting them back where they belong.

That's just the sort of stupid action that does more damage to our reputations as Democrats/liberals/progressives than helps, and gives fuel to the right-wingers in attacking us.




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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:21 PM
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41. I love doing that!
Very, very fun. :D
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:29 PM
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44. Please don't. There are far more constructive ways to "have fun."
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:25 PM
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42. There is a way to do this.
Spine all the conservative books on the bottom or top shelves of the section. Then put the liberal books facing forward on the eye level shelves. I actually used to do this when I worked in a bookstore. It was according to the rules and yet I made a display that was er a little left sided. Of course the conservative guy on the day shift used to undo and reverse the display.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:25 PM
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43. friends like you we dont need
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 06:27 PM by kodi
other than it is a childish act, it is compounded by broadcasting it as if you have struck a blow for decency.

what a fucking creepy thing to be proud of.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:37 PM
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46. perhaps better to make sure that the other side is represented,
instead of hiding them. I have complained at stores if it seems like there are only "right-wing" books up front( or in the kid's section,even worse), such as Bill Bennett and Dr. Laura (king and queen of hypocrisy). It takes all kinds of thought, though, to make a world. Any form of censorship can be a dangerous place to go. Sometimes you have to read that crap to know what the thought process is and then reject it. ;)
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:36 PM
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45. The most I'll ever do
is turn them around so I don't have to look at their ugly mugs while I'm trying to look for actual books. I wouldn't ever move them, and certainly wouldn't hide them; it's a tremendous inconvenience to the folks working in the store.

I *have* been known to write to a store's management to complain about them having all the wingnut Regnery screeds out front and center and hiding the more well-reasoned political books back on the shelves...then they tell me that THEY didn't do that, the store's patrons did! So I won't do it myself. But I will confess to having turned them around so I didn't barf on the floor looking at George and Laura: A Love Story, or whatever that pile of steaming goat feces was. I figured a puddle of puke in the stacks would inconvenience the employees too.
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scottcsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:12 PM
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48. Why do anything?
Unless you own the store, it's not up to you to rearrange books just because you don't like the covers. What gives you that right?

If the right-wingers are the books that are selling, it stands to reason they'd be featured at the front of the store. Also, chains make arrangements with publishers to feature certain titles in strategic locations. It's not your property, why not just leave the books alone?

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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:46 PM
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65. I don't rearrange them or move them
I don't think you read my post.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:24 PM
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49. You are my hero!!! --RV, who also does it at Borders.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:25 PM
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:19 AM
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60. Thanks,,RV. READ Carville's New Book and See Who's Attitude Matches His?
Pretentious,Whine & cheesey Lacey Libs!
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WWW Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:32 PM
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53. At walmart
I put the Dixie Chicks cds and Al Franken's book in front of the republican stuff. And hide Bill O'Reilley and Tody Keith products.
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:14 AM
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59. How insecure in your own beliefs do you have to be to hide books?
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 10:14 AM by YNGW
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???????????????????????
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:23 AM
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61. Somebody needs to give you back your crayons
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 10:25 AM by GalleryGod
I dare say-you're the one with the My Question mark is bigger than yours Prob-lem.

Be gone,child,who's never had to defend liberty in a foreign land.:puffpiece:
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:26 AM
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62. Someone who hides books calling someone else a child....
That's a laugh.

Grow up.
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