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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:19 PM
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Bill Murray tells Oscar's (Academy) to go fly a kite
http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,---19832,00.html

LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - Although he is the critics' frontrunner for taking home an Oscar for his lead role in "Lost in Translation," funnyman Bill Murray has no desire to win because awards are meaningless to him.

Additionally, the 53-year-old despises thespians who campaign for award recognition, reports London's Channel4.

"It's a really unattractive sight to see an actor or actress who really wants an Oscar. And you often see it on the show, you see their faces and the desperation is so ugly. Desperation is not a quality I long for," says Murray. "It's a little bit of a popularity contest, too. Sometimes it's right, but it's wrong just as often, so I don't care."

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I don't blame him, ever since the elitest Academy sock-suckers dissed him on "Rushmore".

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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:22 PM
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1. go Bill
that's the difference between an artist and a businessman.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:31 PM
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2. Fuckin' A, Bill!
Murray is the greatest living American actor. Don't believe me? Go watch Rushmore. He's a pargon of integrity in a business where integrity is a liability.

Think of any other SNL alumnus and where they are today....Bill Murray looks like Olivier in that context.

Murray just needs the right part, and in 20 years, he'll be thought of as one of the all-time greats.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:36 PM
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3. What About Bob
I loooove that movie!
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:38 PM
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4. agreed
he can take pretty much any role and turn it into something memorable. Lost in Translation was brilliant work, too. No one else could have made The Man who Knew Too Little worth watching, Murray made it worth repeated viewings.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:44 PM
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7. Wow, you're the only person I know besides me
Who has even SEEN "the Man WHo Knew Too Little!" I've seen it three times...it's actually f&ckin hilarious, and Murray's deft comedic skills are on full display.

I love haw he doesn't just take any role that comes down the pike, but picks roles that challenge him and challenge his audience's expectations of him. Who knew in the mid-80's, after Ghostbusters, that we'd be talking about Bill Murray like this?! The guy's a genius.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:48 PM
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9. That and Groundhog
are in my frequent rotation - I own each. And they are ALL Murray. Andie McDowell nearly destroyed GHD - she is horrible in everything she touches.
BTW - I've been meaning to ask - is that sig line pic D playing at SDSU?

RKZ, I know you have good tastes, go tell me what movie to watch.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=545691&mesg_id=545691


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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:51 PM
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13. DUer D. Boon tells me that it's the LA street festival in 85.
I trust him; he's D. Boon, for god's sake!!

Good movie to watch? Have you seen "Jonah who will be 25 in the year 2000?" A good movie playing right now that EVERYBODY needs to se is "The Weather Underground...."


I don't have good taste, but according to my wife, I taste good...
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:00 PM
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15. well, there is an image I did not need
while already ill. :evilgrin:

great photo - huge loss. Saw him open for REM in South Carolina days before he died. Changed my whole musical perspective.

Thanks for the flick ideas.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:50 PM
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10. Not the only one
The Man who knew too little is my personal favorite of Bill Murray's. There were times during the movie that I was laughing so hard I fell over! :D
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:47 PM
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16. That Movie Is Great
He was also excellent in Razor's Edge, even though the direction is plodding. It wasn't that good a movie, but it sure wasn't Bill's fault.
The Professor
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:44 PM
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8. The Man who knew too little was probaly one of the funniest of all time
Movies that is.
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:51 PM
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12. I loved the Man who Knew too Little
the whole scene with the bobbies talking spy gadgets is one of the best.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:43 PM
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5. Yup--and the most shameless whoring for an Oscar goes to...
Julia Roberts. I don't think anybody lobbied for one the way she did. Blech. Nothing like an overrated actor with a sense of Oscar entitlement.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:02 PM
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19. Absolutely
Ellen Burstyn was robbed, IMHO.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:17 PM
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20. No, Michael Douglas campaigning for his wife last year
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 10:21 PM by LynneSin
Meryl Streep so deserved the Best Supporting Actress with her fabulous role in "Adaptation", but Michael Douglas campaigned hard since his wife so badly wanted an Oscar. I read where he spent so much freaking money campaigning for his wife that the Academy is looking to tighten the rules for how much campaigning you can do to win the Oscar.

:puke:

And you're right, Ellen Burstyn was robbed. She was absolutely fabulous in "Requiem for a Dream"
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:43 PM
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6. Eminem has an oscar
martin Scorcese doesn't. Good for Bill. Lost in translation was terrific and I hope he does win. But I now know that I care more than Bill!

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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:50 PM
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11. your post says a bunch
gotta admire Bill for his principles.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:00 PM
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14. This is How You Do It With Class
Just as a parallel, some might find this letter from Nick Cave to MTV, from a few years ago, enlightening.

To all those at mtv,

I would like to start by thanking you all for the support you have given me over recent years and I am both grateful and flattered by the nominations that I have received for best male artist. The air play given to both the Kylie Minogue and P. J. Harvey duets from my latest album Murder Ballads has not gone unnoticed and has been greatly appreciated. So again my sincere thanks.

Having said that, I feel that it's necessary for me to request that my nomination for best male artist be withdrawn and furthermore any awards or nominations for such awards that may arise in later years be presented to those who feel more comfortable with the competitive nature of these award ceremonies. I myself, do not. I have always been of the opinion that my music is unique and individual and exists beyond the realms inhabited by those who would reduce things to mere measuring. I am in competition with no-one.
My relationship with my muse is a delicate one at the best of times and I feel that it is my duty to protect her from influences that may offend her fragile nature.

She comes to me with the gift of song and in return I treat her with the respect I feel she deserves - in this case this means not subjecting her to the indignities of judgement and competition. My muse is not a horse and I am in no horse race and if indeed she was, still I would not harness her to this tumbrel - this bloody cart of severed heads and glittering prizes. My muse may spook! May bolt! May abandon me completely!
So once again, to the people at mtv, I appreciate the zeal and energy that was put behind my last record, I truly do and say thank you and again I say thank you but no...no thank you.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:50 PM
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17. Stripes made want to join the military
Look where I am now!!
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Grassrooter Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:58 PM
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18. Right on, Bill!
Although, I do think he deserves that Oscar for "Lost In Translation". Nonetheless, it's refreshing to read him call actors/actresses on this award bullcrap; 'cause more often than not it is a mere popularity contest (i.e. Julia Roberts winning for Erin Brokevich - an okay movie, but in no way worthy of all the awards she won for it ... I think I liked her better in Mary Reilly). Anyway, applause to Bill for stating this.
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