Help me out.... so Who would the Cubes be likely to support for pres?

[salin]

(I know some folks still are anti-cubes... but hey they are three dimensional figures... like anyone else...) Just trying to figure the likely angles... and can't quite predict who the cubes might vote for?

[La_Serpiente]

1. Well If Bush follows the money (agribusinesses)

then they won't vote for anyone. Personally, I think the Democratic nominees should advocate the scrapping of the embargo.

[salin]

5. While I hear you... (and your point is well taken)... I really was asking

about the cubes... (just working for some campaign levity)... the spheres, orbs and cones are also needing analyses :D

Back to the more serious topic you raise... it is interesting how on the ground there are more and more voices for lifting the embargo (to a great extent due to business interests such as agribusiness)... while the political rhetoric seems even more entrenched with heel dug in deep (in favor) then ever.

[Osolomia]

40. Zogby: Majority of American Likely Voters Favors Ending Cuban Embargo

Released: December 15, 2003

Majority of American Likely Voters Favors Ending Cuban Embargo, Foreign Policy Association/Zogby Poll Reveals

More than half (56%) of America's likely voters now favor re-opening trade with Cuba, while 12% oppose the idea, according to a recent Zogby International poll.

Polling was conducted September 5-9, 2003 for the Foreign Policy Association, with 1,000 likely voters chosen at random nationwide from listed residential phone numbers. The margin of survey error is +/- 3.2 percentage points. Margins are higher in sub-groups.

... Support for ending the Cuban embargo does tend to turn more sharply on party affiliation, with 59% of Democrats and 66% of Independents saying the embargo should end, and 45% of Republicans agreeing.

Older respondents - presumably more familiar with the Cold War experience - are slightly more likely than younger respondents to favor ending the embargo (65 and older: 57%, compared to those 18-29: 51%).

Others who favor ending the embargo include: college graduates (62%), African Americans (61%), higher income respondents ($75,000-plus: 61%). Hispanics (45%) Born-again Christians (43%) and conservatives (47%) are significantly less likely to favor ending the embargo.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=770

Yet despite bipartisan majority votes in the House, Senate and State legislatures who want to lift the trade and travel ban:

Democratic Presidential Candidates on Cuba

Of the ten current democratic hopefuls, Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) is the only one who supports an end to the embargo.

Much more...
http://www.lawg.org/pages/new%20pages/Misc/prez-candidates1.htm

Evidently the Dems angles are out of sync with the rest of the country.

[Mika]

34. La_Serpiente, few Dems are interested in the complicity of their party..

.. in the crucifiction of that entire nation.

[Kamika]

2. Whoever proposes to keep the embargo

It would win Fla over.. just have to ask yourself at what cost do you want fla?

[pmbryant]

3. LOL

I don't know what this is about, but I still laughed. :D

--Peter

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. yes but all their dimensions are essentially the same

Bush all the way and if we wish to compete, then we need to run a Democratoc version of Bush to appeal to all their dimensions which are the same as any of their dimensions...get it?

And besides, those that are anti-cube are still reeling from the Euclidean Gonzales case

[salin]

6. *whew* I was wondering if I started think about this only 1-dimensionally

Bush really does seem to have this particular area down... probably because it requires only simple political calculations.... so rather than a bush version... perhaps we need to instead find the candidate who appeals to the slighly more complex cylindar...

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

7. True, but then there are the squares who share all the same issues as the

cubes only not so many sides and all. I really think that the squares is who ALL the candidates should target so that they can get the rectangles and some of the cubes...worrying about cylindars will only subject us to ridicule and have us be regarded as outside the mainstream.

on edit: but you do realize we have an entire forum dedicated to this philosophical wax job and that you are untidying the lounge with your elitist intellectual ivory tower vitriol...do you not?

[salin]

8. ah.. the square vote

(and I dare just ONE candidate to say out loud that they are seeking the "Square Vote!)... gain one perpendicular corner of a square... and you have all the corners.

But if we don't go after the cylindars for fear of appearing off of the main plain... will they simply not vote? I say go after the apathetic nonvoting Cylindars!

I think the new vitriol forum would probably not appreciate having a geometric mocking in their presence... while the lounge might be slightly more forgiving... perhaps?

[pmbryant]

9. You guys are a riot

What do you think about the Dodecahedron vote? :D

--Peter

[salin]

12. I think I saw a Dodecahedrons for Dean website....

do you think its subversive? ;-)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

14. Not any moreso than the Cuboctahedrons for Clarks

:D

[salin]

16. Cuboctahedrons ?

Did you make that up? Now that is subversive!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

17. No I promise it's real!

the real subversives are the Rhombicosidodecahedron's. They are for Nader and are alphabetically incorrect :D

[salin]

18. Wow... they are really in a parallel universe!

Unlike the gigagons for Gephardt.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. yes and the corners are the key, but cylindars don't have corners

and will not compromise their curves. Therefore even if they do vote, they are disorganized and if you just get 5% of the cubes 50% of the squares and all the lemmings rectangles that will go along for the ride, you have dramatically increased your chances

The reason this thread won't be appreciated in the new forum however, is due in large part to the long thin cylindrical wooden object crammed firmly up their circular smelly orifice. :D

[salin]

15. so we shouldn't expect to see a parobolic rush from the cylindars

for clark crowd?

Indeed there is a wee bit of a tendency towards a corncob conical stance among the more 'partisan' (or is it candidatisan) crowd over there.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

20. well technically it's more of a sit than a stance

:evilgrin:

[salin]

23. and when not sitting...

perhaps a bit of a crouching and pouncing interlude?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

24. you've been watching too much porn

[salin]

26. I guess there is something almost pornographic in some of the

political stalking and attacking that can go on in some of the forums.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

27. Yes it's a combination of fucked

as well as a bit masturbatory.

[salin]

29. that about covers

a great deal of it!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

31. You forgot flagellation

[salin]

35. Both flagellation and flogging

(eg to the self, and to others) appear to be favorite pasttimes.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

36. Sometimes concommittantly

[salin]

37. which is always quite a specatcle

of spectacles... who might the bifocals find to support, and would they pick up any trifocals along the way?

I might have to ponder this as I turn in for the night.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

38. and what about all those folks who are

blind in one eye and can't see outta the other :shrug:

[Osolomia]

39. The dimensions of cubes are NOT all essentially the same

as simple observation of the polls goes to show, but evidently the Democrats still don't get it.

[SOteric]

10. Is this some sort of voting 'Pyramid Scheme...?'

[salin]

13. just trying to avoid an electoral quadratic quagmire....

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

19. I summoned a focus group. As you can see, they are a perfectly

normal set of cubes. But, are they?
Let's see, shall we>?


I have to admit, I was not very experienced with cubes, and I had to sit in on the first couple of sessions. I find they are quite transparent on this, and many other issues.
I am concerned that they pay attention enough to our issues to weigh them and decide on their own.
I fear this issue is dead.

[salin]

21. But then there are these cubes...

that might be a little more persuadable:



The LiteBriteCube!

Then again.. this bunch just might be a little prone to follow the dim light in the white house. :shrug:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

25. But what about these cold calculating bastards?

[salin]

28. we steal 'em... crush them... and make frozen

Margaritas!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

32. OK...that'll get my vote

I think we found a campaign promise everyone can get behind. :D

[sasquatch]

22. Bush because he's a mobster like Batista was

I think we should arm all the Cubes and send them back to Cuba, to overthrow Castro. Make'em put their money where their mouth is:evilgrin:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

30. LOL!

[sasquatch]

33. I'm glad yoou like it

[NicoleM]

41. He was sitting next to Jesse Ventura last night

at the T'wolves-Mavs game, so maybe he'd vote third party.