Steve Irwin: Who The Fuck Cares?

[Tiggeroshii]

Poll question: Steve Irwin: Who The Fuck Cares?

Sorry. I know I'm just adding to this barrage of posts on the issue. I can't help it. Jumpin on the bandwagon.

[Tiggeroshii]

1. Lol. Wayyyy too many people imho.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

2. Yet you care enough to make a poll about it.

Amazing.

[cboy4]

6. And initiate the first post!

:eyes:

[WildEyedLiberal]

7. It is, isn't it?

I guess I had better make sure that my concerns are validated by the DU Caring Police before I dare to post about anything.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

12. Yep, the caring police that cares so little they will make a thread

just to tell you how much they care.

Bless their little souls...

:evilfrown:

[Common Sense Party]

4. Just jealous cuz no one will give a shit when you die?

Many people liked him. Many are sad that he died so young. People need to express grief.

You could ignore them, if it bothers you so much.

Just a thought.

[WildEyedLiberal]

8. That would make too much sense

It doesn't take long after any major news story for some DUer to start a thread whining about all the previous threads on the subject, professing not to care, and then spending 50 posts explaining their lack of caring in detail.

Quite a lot of effort to spend on something that interests them so little...

[Syrinx]

3. His wife and children and friends and fans?

And to come onto a liberal message board that is so well known for the sole purpose of ridiculing a recently-deceased person, mocking his death, is about the most illiberal thing I can think of. I hope you are proud of your Republican characteristics.

[cboy4]

13. Oh, the characteristics of republicans are better. I have conservative

friends who have acted like human beings today regarding Steve, unlike a lot of DUers who clearly need psychiatric help.

It's shameful.

[Syrinx]

14. Mistake Noted

When I said "Republican" I meant "Freeper." Sorry for the confusion.

[cboy4]

17. I think you've made me smile for the first time today!!

:pals:

[Syrinx]

19. thanks!

I don't make people smile nearly as often as I'd like. :hi:

[cboy4]

20. You do me. I've been a big fan of your posts!!

:hi:

[LostinVA]

80. My sister is a borderline Freep, and my BIL is

And they are both really upset about Steve Irwin dying.

[datasuspect]

82. so the death of a cable teevee celebrity

is your barometer for the relative worth of political affiliation?

[Syrinx]

5. I don't see a vote choice named "fuck you"

[Tiggeroshii]

9. Duly noted.

But com'on. The guy was a fucking idiot. He would tame crocodiles with his baby boy in his arm. Putting his kid's life at risk certain merits ridicule and/or disdain for the things which made him famous.

[Syrinx]

11. duly voted

[cboy4]

15. Who's the fucking idiot?

[ForrestGump]

21. Thanks for allowing my voice to be heard by adding that vote category

[gatorboy]

22. Hear Hear!

I was originally going to vote the "I Care" option, but Irwin would probably appreciate the "Fuck You" :P

[leeroysphitz]

78. Everyone appreciates a good "fuck you" now and then.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

25. Damn...I voted too soon.

I like the "fuck you" option. Well, not towards you of course, you're one of the good ones.

[Random_Australian]

26. Aye, I had to vote that I cared anyway.

I would not want to use language like THAT. (See downthread to be dosed in irony)

[cboy4]

28. Dammit, I want to change mine to fuck you. It wasn't an original choice.

:cry:

[BikeWriter]

52. I know you're right!

[LostinVA]

81. My, your ignorance about this man's life is shattering

How very, very embarrassing for you.

[auntAgonist]

103. he fed a BABY croc, while holding his child in his arm...

it was decided that he did nothing dangerous and he was never charged. He didn't risk his child's life at all. He didn't tame a croc as you said.
He was not a f*cking idiot. You need to get your facts straight.

aA

[BikeWriter]

16. Fuck'n A!

[Philosoraptor]

10. in a day or two we'll be on other stories and issues

i'm not worried about it.

[yurbud]

18. I'm holding a candlelight vigil at gator farm on route 41

we're throwing KFC and babies to the crocs in his honor.

[Name removed]

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[ForrestGump]

33. If I could nominate posts, I would this one

You've succinctly summed up my feelings about some of our fellow DUers' behavior and character as revealed over this past day. :headbang:

[Random_Australian]

41. *takes bow*

Thanks, I sometimes have a way with words.

Like when fuckers want to fuck around.

[Dutch]

51. Well said, sir!

[NMMNG]

24. I've never been really into celebrities

be they big or small. So while I'll feel that the death of a person is sad in the sense that any human loss is sad, I'll freely admit I don't understand people becoming significantly unhappy or even distraught over the death of one.


But this "who the f*ck cares" attitude makes me sick. Maybe some people don't give a crap when another human being dies (they're usually called Republicans or Fundies), but many people here do. If you don't give a crap, feel free to use the "hide thread" function on all of the applicable threads.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

27. Frankly, I have been waiting for some creature to get him

from day one. You just don't fuck with mother nature! What part of that don't you get? Krikey! This is one of the most poisonous creatures on earth! I think I will go fuck with it! All I can say is "Heres yer sign".

[ForrestGump]

29. A few creatures right here on DU have been tearing him apart for the past

24 hours or so.

Cull 'em.

[cboy4]

30. Tell us more about how a sting ray is one of the most poisonous

creatures on earth Einstein.

[ForrestGump]

35. A sting ray got a friend of mine

when he was walking down the street in Des Moines. It come right up to him and did that theing where they spit in the eye with that poisonous stuff and then he just died right there and then on the street. The stingray just laughed, sure enough, and got back in his Hummer and took off. As far as I know, Brad didn't even know the stingray.

[cboy4]

40. Do you suggest I should piss on Brad's grave like the psychopaths who want

to piss on the stranger who was on TV's grave? :shrug:

[ForrestGump]

43. Actually, Brad was into that sort of thing

But I don't think that's why the stingrays put a contract out on him.

[blondeatlast]

76. Edit: self-delete. Still applauding your long post from yesterday, FG.

I don't want to turn into the likes of the DUer I referred to into this misguided reply concerning a DU longtimer.

FG: :thumbsup:

[LostinVA]

85. I know you're lying FG

Rays drive Land Rovers, not Hummers... everyone knows that. You're not a real wildlife biologist, are you???

[OffWithTheirHeads]

44. Killed him, didn't it?

Einstein! Perhaps you don't understand deadly, Einstein!

[Random_Australian]

45. Before he goes nuts, I'd like to point out the barb on a stingray gets

as large as a chef's knife.

Which is enough to kill promptly by physical damage.

And stingrays are strong and about 350 kg. (740 ish pounds)

[cboy4]

49. Yes it did, but you called that particular animal quote:

one of the most poisonous creatures on earth! unquote.

You even used an exclamation point.

We're all anxiously waiting, Einstein, for your scientific explanation as to how a stingray is one of the most poisonous creatures on earth.

I have Britannica on the phone....they're all set to rewrite the encyclopedia...

[ForrestGump]

56. And if it were one of the worst in the world, which it's not

(or they're not, rather -- there're many stingray species), it'd be venomous, not 'poisonous.' :D

Although the biggest problems with stingray barbs, apart from the impaling, tends to be infection.

[cboy4]

61. Do you actually think he understands a single letter of what you just

typed? LOL

[ForrestGump]

63. No, unless maybe I typed

'a.'

Doesn't seem to have even the faintest of idea what Steve was all about, either. That's ultimately their loss -- Steve Irwin's legacy is secure, most vitally within the imaginations and hearts of the children who learned from him. The Crocodile Hunter is to these young minds and spirits what Jacques Cousteau was to the baby boomers and the first Xers...

[Random_Australian]

68. And there is a certain zoo in a certain state in Australia that has

benefited a great deal from him... not to mention many other places.

He did plenty of things, mostly not TV.... ok or perhaps more accurately, with TV crews in the background.

[datasuspect]

74. esteban du plantier has them all beat

[xmas74]

75. My six year old daughter now talks about sharks nonstop.

She finds them fascinating and calls them "beautiful". Every payday we have to go down to our local bookstore to buy her another book about sharks. She doesn't want to read about anything else. (Unless it's about superheros but that's her special once a month trip to the comic book shop.:) ) She says that when she grows up she wants to work with sharks, since no one else seems to like them.

She got that from watching Steve. Yes, he did a few things that were dangerous but sometimes when you work in animal rescue it's just part of the job. I know people that have been attacked while rescuing dogs and I know of police officers being charged by rutting deer breaking through windows.

He did some dangerous things but overall some of his actions come with the territory. He did quite a bit for conservation of wildlife and native lands. He did just as much, if not more, on educating people about animals that they would otherwise find vile. And his shows stoked an interest in my own child in wildlife preservation.

He died too young but he did fulfill a purpose and he did it well.

[Name removed]

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[cboy4]

59. You're quite the scholar, aren't you? I mean that in an "allagory" way

of course. :spray:

Now, let me get back to counting all of the DU rules you've violated in a single post.

You may have set a record. Good job tmfun!! :dunce:

[ForrestGump]

65. Some people are into 'allagories' and some are into

crocks.

That idea just caimin to my head.

[LostinVA]

88. bwwwwahhhhhhh

[LostinVA]

87. Damn. I hate when I miss stuff like this....

[LostinVA]

86. Again... your ignorance is just so embarrassing for you n/t

[LostinVA]

84. I know, I love people's ignorance about marine biology

My uncle was barbed by a ray. Last I knew, he's still running his crab boat in NJ.

[Tiggeroshii]

31. Likewise.

My regards to his family, sure. But I could care less about him. If I knew him, obviously it would be different. But that guy's display of basic inhumanity toward other creatures was. Wow... disgusting.

[ForrestGump]

36. Well, that Tiggeroshii fella's dead...

My regards to his family, sure. But I could care less about him. If I knew him, obviously it would be different. But that guy's display of basic inhumanity toward other people was. Wow... disgusting

[Tiggeroshii]

38. lol

[cboy4]

42. The saying is: "I COULDN'T care less about him." By saying, "I COULD

care less about him," that means you still have additional hate for the man you know nothing about.

Hopefully you're not a teacher.

[Pool Hall Ace]

71. I can give you something to care even less about.

The Duke University Lacrosse team is back on the field. Yes, this mention took up valuable space in the newspaper :boring:

[SammyWinstonJack]

72. I watched "Confessions of the Crocodile Hunter" last night on

"Animal Planet". He seemed like a genuine guy, sincere, caring and deeply passionate about all creatures. I don't get where some say he abused animals. I feel for his family and life-long best friend, his fans. Seems like a terrible loss all around.

[LostinVA]

89. Seriously. learn about a person's life before you slag him, 'kay?

because all you're doing is making an ass of yourself. Seriously.

Don't like the guy? Fine. But dislike him based on those little things called "facts," not a bunch of made-up stuff.

[LostinVA]

83. Gosh, your ignorance about stingrays and Irwin's death is shattering

You share something in common with the OP.

[HEyHEY]

32. Well, it's too bad. That's about as far as I go with it.

[JVS]

90. Have you no empathy you scumbag!

I am renouncing the pleasures of the flesh, including drinking, sex and sleep for the next 5 years to properly mourn the passing of this prince among men!

[datasuspect]

98. no fucking way will you be more righteous than i!!!!

i'll do all that, PLUS walk the desert, wear a hairshirt, take vows in a flagellant order, and give my worldly substance to the poor!!

[Tiggeroshii]

34. I love you guys

:grouphug:

[ForrestGump]

37. Why wouldn't you?

The outrage assists you in getting your jollies.

You need us.

[Tiggeroshii]

39. Most definitely. n/t

[Guava Jelly]

46. I would say these people care

His widowed wife and fatherless children

[Tiggeroshii]

47. That's true. I feel so bad now....

[Guava Jelly]

48. sorry didnt mean to be a buzz kill

:)
They couldnt help it if thier dad was goofy.

[ContraBass Black]

97. Was the baby incident that long ago?

[Hav]

50. .

Oh I see. Another one of these days to be really proud of some of our fellow DUers. So mighty progressive and liberal. Yeah, he just got what he deserved because of his inhuman treatment of animals! And screw his family, too!

[buddhamama]

53. who cares? you do obviously

or else you wouldn't have started yet another thread on the subject.

[ScreamingMeemie]

54. As a wife and mother... I care. n/t

[deutsey]

55. I'm dumbfounded over this "controversy" here

Why can't we get riled up like this about, oh, matters that really matter to the everyday lives of people trying to scrape by under the Bush junta.

I think Irwin was a good man, a good educator, a good entertainer. If other people don't, so be it. But I don't see where this is cause for such anger and debate.

But then I'm too busy scraping by under the Bush junta, I guess.

[datasuspect]

58. for so many people jumping over each other to be more self-righteous

and indignant than the next, y'all sure got some vile things to say.

[Random_Australian]

60. I know.

I rarely have the opportunity to sharpen my swearing skills, as I am of rather temporate disposition.

Just bieng economical.

If you wonder how one may say such things and describe themselves as temperate, I would assert that I was quite calm at the time of posting.

However, it is said, and I have learned about people what I set out to learn.

Therefore I will ask for the deletion of the post.

[datasuspect]

62. i just can't figure out the outpouring of compassion for steve irwin

and reconcile that with the nastiness toward other people here who have a different opinion (which is varied and NOT only of the "he deserved it" variety.

before anyone goes apeshit: the death of the man was an unfortunate thing and i offer my condolences to his family

to wit, i've seen:

several "fuck yous"

a couple "no one loves you"

"you are unloved"

"no one will care when YOU die"

"you have accomplished nothing in life"

etc. etc.

i just can't understand that. i would have thought that people MUST realize some people post offensive shit sometimes to get a rise out of people.

sometimes people are just assholes, but i like to try and at least figure out where they are coming from first by engaging them and not automatically making cutting insults as to whether anyone on earth actually loves them.

maybe it is the mourning and bereavement people are feeling that's making them act this way.

but if they are THAT affected by the death (to where people are saying some really shitty thing to people THEY CAN ACTUALLY TALK TO) of a cable teevee celeb, maybe they should use some bereavement time today and call in to work.

[Random_Australian]

67. Ok. I understand. One thing:

Here he is not a cable teevee celeb, but much more well known for his work in the zoos and preserves than any TV shows. (Well, people found out about him from TV at the start, but that is not much in terms of what people think of him)

Perhaps, to others, he is more than a cable teevee celeb also?

[datasuspect]

69. duh, mcfly, (saying that to myself)

i should have paid attention to the "australian" in your nickname and not only noticed.

i can appreciate that in your context. i could imagine he was something of a national entity in your country.

[zcflint09]

64. Nothing like trashing an innocent man!

Is it Steve's fault he's was a celebrity? NO

So don't be pissed that he's getting press because he died. The guy obviously took risks in his career but he knew that this may happen one day. I feel for his wife and family. However, Steve was a champion of raising awareness of animals and educating alot of folks on the animal world. Take that contribution for what you will, but he never did anyone any harm throughout his career, so why trash the guy? It was his choice to do what he did.

It's not his fault that he gets press because of his death. It's silly to trash the man because he got press because of his death. I feel for the family and do care. RIP Croc Hunter

[Fox Mulder]

66. I do.

It makes me sick seeing posts like this about the death of another human being.

Absolutely sick. :puke: :grr:

[crim son]

70. I don't much care.

Not beyond feeling sorry for his family and loved ones.

[blondeatlast]

73. Poll posted in the wee hours of the morning, running 70% at "I care."

I guess you have your answer.

[leeroysphitz]

77. The Rumsfeld/Cheney/Rove cabal had Irwin whacked

to silence MSM attention on the war/ Halibut...

Oh jeez. I've been spending too much time in GD.

[LostinVA]

79. There, did that make you feel like a big, bad boy?

Feel all manly and tough now?

Time to go back to your Xbox.

[blondeatlast]

91. I think I love you, library lady!

I'm straight and married, but love can take many forms, yanno?

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[LostinVA]

92. Yes, love can take many forms

The Greeks have many different names for many different types of love.

And, sometimes straight girls like to drink a little too much and make out with gay chicks...

I'm betting the post you responded to will be deleted. But damn! It pissed me off.

[blondeatlast]

95. I wanted to say the same thing you did to the OP, just lacked courage.

Therefore :thumbsup: my friend.

[LostinVA]

99. Both my advancing 42nd birthday and recent DU inanity

Has made me either brave or half bonkers the last two days....

[billyskank]

93. To everyone: enough already!

Steve Irwin is dead. He was a great man. Or maybe he was a tosser. He was killed by a stingray. Stingrays are not a menace. Or maybe they are. I just don't give a shit any more.

[datasuspect]

94. jaguar sharks are a menace

[fortyfeetunder]

96. Caring but not to the point of obsession.

It happens there is a child in the household who knew about Irwin's sudden death before I knew, so I am just being patient parent. Otherwise, there have been other deaths within my circle of friends recently so it's day by day. So I am not any more obsessed about the Irwin accident than anything else.

[Deja Q]

100. I don't hate the guy; he's middle of the road for me.

I can think of people more deserving.

But he wasn't entirely a bad influence either... unless kids started baiting rattlesnakes and other critters just like their role model idol icon...

I'm sorry he died young.

I'm sorry he left a family.

But he had a family.

He died doing what he loved.

He died quickly.

In perspective:

His family will get his wealth and they will live in comfort. How many people die, whose families end up nothing because of whatever financial reasons?

Thank God he didn't die slowly.

And, hell yeah, he had a fun and warm personality. Who could hate him, regardless of anything some of us disagree with him on?

[bridgit]

101. I care, but he should have done more research on sting rays...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

102. More research on sting rays?

Bridgit, this was a freak accident.

That's like saying Sonny Bono should have done more research on trees.

[bridgit]

104. correct, the tapes have not been posted as yet, but word is that...

the camera was rolling when the event occurred; he & his cameraman were very near the animal indeed if not perhaps too near surely insofar as the ray was concerned, and Irwin had (as it is reported preliminary of course) swam over the top of the ray causing a defensive action on the part of the ray...sad

while the good works of Stever Irwin are being told in conjunction; many experts in the field of marine biology are stepping forward with mention as well as to the sting ray's behavioral patterns being defensive by nature...again sad

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

105. For crying out loud...

Sting rays just aren't that dangerous. This was a freak accident.

The only reason Irwin's dead is because the stinger happened to hit his heart. If it had hit anywhere else a couple of inches over Irwin would be just fine.

[bridgit]

106. yes and i've hand fed them at the aquarium, but neither was i making...

some film on the subject regarding rays 'in the wild', 30mins from any medical assist that may have been helpful :eyes: my sense is that were you to put your mai-tai down and kick any one of those rays in your pic there, you too would find an alternate moment in your future

[Moderator]

107. locking....

This has become inflammatory.