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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:46 PM
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Who has had exceptional supernatural experiences
and how did it change your world view. Please don't kick this to the lounge as I think its an intriguing subject and I'm sure many others will too.

By "exceptional" experiences I mean really out of the realm of logic type stuff. Things moving, psychic attack, witness to posession etc. etc.

Out with your stories of the strange brave DUers who have glimpsed the other side. I want to know you.

The Shadow knows the shadows.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:49 PM
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1. There are some other forum groups that you might check out
If the mods don't send this to one first ;)
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:55 PM
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7. There's a thread called "Hey look at the ads on the top of this page"
I hope this one survives longer than that one at least.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:51 PM
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2.  I have, but.......
if I shared it here, no one would believe it, so I won't. I've had TWO experiences, both having to do with Angels.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:54 PM
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4. I'd more than likely believe you discerning christian
that was the point of this thread. I guess I'm on this kick because I say "The exorcism of Emiliy Rose" for the first time the other night and it set me off thinking about some of my own experiences. A couple to this day feel were cases of possible mild possesion of some sort. Gave me chills just to type that lol.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:52 PM
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3. i would love to chat wit you. but too late and tired tonight
maybe i will meet up with you another time, wink. lol
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:54 PM
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5. i've never had any real experiences like that
but would like to hear from other DU'ers.:kick:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:55 PM
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6. The DU Rules
state:

"The General Discussion forum is for discussion of a wide range of topics that are relevant to politics, public policy, and current events."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html


That is why these kinds of topics are often moved to a different forum.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:56 PM
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9. I currently watched "The exorcism of Emily Rose"
thus this thread.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:55 PM
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8. The only time I ever called one uncle in my adult life was when
he was being rushed to the hospital during a heart attack, in another country. I didn't know why I was calling him.

Boo!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:56 PM
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10. I had few and also had near death experience too.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:57 PM
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11. I had a bowl of cornflakes & milk that briefly looked like Kerry Thornley
fwiw.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:00 AM
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62. heh what does kerry thornley look like?
that's a name from the past, haven't thought of him in years

i know he was a friend or something of lee harvey oswald in new orleans but too many years, can't recall the details?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:57 PM
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12. My personal opinion is that the "line" between inside & outside the head
isn't as crisp as we've been led to believe.

But beyond that, your mileage may vary.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:00 PM
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14. I do agree with you somewhat
but when something moves by itself and it is in a different place. Well.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:19 PM
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24. My daughter was pondering that sort of thing
We figure cats can go in and out of other dimensions. Maybe they take stuff with them then bring stuff back.

And maybe YOU go in and out of other dimensions and move stuff around without knowing about it. Sorta like sleep walking.

But seriously, most of the females in my family have had some... uh, interesting and unusual experiences. When my older brother confided that he was experiencing something which really was upsetting him as he feared he was losing his mind I fell over laughing. He had never noticed shit like that happened to us girls all the time. He never knew.

We'll talk some time ;) Too late this evening. Too tired. But, we'll talk.

Oh, and go to Bisbee, AZ sometime. You'll see a lot.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:28 AM
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44. When it comes to certain areas of experience, I fall back on Lao Tsu:
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 12:30 AM by impeachdubya
you know, "those who know, don't speak- those who speak, don't know"... that sort of thing. I know what I've seen, including the experiences that defy so-called logic and so-called common sense. But the meaning of those experiences, in most cases, is intensely personal. Proseltyzing or trying to "convince" people that they did or didn't "happen" is fruitless (from my experience) and not really my area of interest. I know what I know, and I've experienced what I've experienced. But my path is not yours. Like I said, your mileage may vary.

That said- AFAIC, what you're referencing makes perfect sense from a certain point of view ("supernatural" is just something "natural" that we don't understand yet, IMHO) if one considers the Zen Joke/Parable:

Student to Master: "I understand! I understand! That rock over there is inside my head!"

Master to Student: "You must have a very big head, to hold a rock that size"

:party:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:25 PM
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26. Yeah, if the brain runs on an electrical current of some kind,
the current has to escape every now and again. And who knows what kind of outside currents your noggin might pick up. And when you die, where does that electric current go?
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:30 PM
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27. This is your brain on God - wired.com
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.11/persinger.html

(snip)

I'm taking part in a vanguard experiment on the physical sources of spiritual consciousness, the current work-in-progress of Michael Persinger, a neuropsychologist at Canada's Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario. His theory is that the sensation described as "having a religious experience" is merely a side effect of our bicameral brain's feverish activities. Simplified considerably, the idea goes like so: When the right hemisphere of the brain, the seat of emotion, is stimulated in the cerebral region presumed to control notions of self, and then the left hemisphere, the seat of language, is called upon to make sense of this nonexistent entity, the mind generates a "sensed presence."

Persinger has tickled the temporal lobes of more than 900 people before me and has concluded, among other things, that different subjects label this ghostly perception with the names that their cultures have trained them to use - Elijah, Jesus, the Virgin Mary, Mohammed, the Sky Spirit. Some subjects have emerged with Freudian interpretations - describing the presence as one's grandfather, for instance - while others, agnostics with more than a passing faith in UFOs, tell something that sounds more like a standard alien-abduction story.

It may seem sacrilegious and presumptuous to reduce God to a few ornery synapses, but modern neuroscience isn't shy about defining our most sacred notions - love, joy, altruism, pity - as nothing more than static from our impressively large cerebrums. Persinger goes one step further. His work practically constitutes a Grand Unified Theory of the Otherworldly: He believes cerebral fritzing is responsible for almost anything one might describe as paranormal - aliens, heavenly apparitions, past-life sensations, near-death experiences, awareness of the soul, you name it.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:52 PM
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39. How about doors opening themselves
and such.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:31 AM
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51. The Materialist answer is that such things are caused by wind
Wind, or the tremor of a truck passing by, or hallucination and tricks of the light.

Tucker
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:54 AM
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52. The materialist would be wrong in this particular case
n/t
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:30 AM
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50. Maybe not "merely" a side effect
We can also track the effect that hearing music has on a brain using a fMRI machine; that doesn't mean the music is not really there, or that the musical notes are random phenomena. Indeed, one might ask why there would be the circuits in the brain to perceive such things if there were nothing there to perceive.

Tucker
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:31 PM
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29. Exactly
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only change forms. My basic science is rusty but I think that's the right law. So where does the energy of even brainwaves go?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:37 PM
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31. ::
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:30 AM
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45. Hey, that guy's good!
Cool. Another one I've never seen before. Thanks!!!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:57 PM
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13. other than my Mom always knowing who the phone was for
when it rang, and myself knowing when my Grandfather died back home... nothing exceptional.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:03 PM
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15. Actually I consider that pretty exceptional
n/t
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:31 PM
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30. well, it was weird. Freaked more than a few people out...
even those in the family.

I read the tarot, used to be for friends and myself, but I freaked myself out a few too many times, so I stopped for a while. I started reading again last year, but only as it pertains to politics. I posted a few of them in the Astrology, Spirituality & Alternative Healing Group, if anyone is interested.

I just remembered... there was a basement apartment we rented when I was first married. I was fine there, unless I was alone. If no-one else was around, it felt creepy, I just couldn't stay in there alone. There was also a spot on the wall that we kept painting over, but the stain kept bleeding thru.

Turns out, someone committed suicide in there, and the stain we kept painting over was from that.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:03 PM
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16. I've had 2 very odd experiences.
First: my husband and I (he was my BF at the time) had to put our sweet little Chihuahua to sleep after a long illness. He was a wreck, since he'd had the dog for 10 years. I was depressed and bummed out too. Well, one day about 3 weeks later, I was out with our surviving dog and he was acting really weird. I had an odd feeling too. I turned over my shoulder and saw Scudsy, taking a leak where he always did, just watching me and Gallo (the other dog). That weekend, my husband and I found one of the dogs we have now, wandering around Pasadena,CA, abandoned and in bad shape. Incidentally, we had to recently put Gallo to sleep. A week later, we found another abandoned dog, in VERY bad shape. He's passed out on the bed currently, full of fur after a serious bout of mange.

Two: my husband's father passed in 2003. I flew from CA to NJ for the wake and funeral. The night of the wake we fell asleep on his sister's living room floor. I normally sleep like the dead, and after a red eye flight and massive jet lag, I was exhausted. However, around 3am, I awoke and saw his father standing in the kitchen, staring into the dining room, where the photo collage was. He looked very peaceful and I was not scared. During the wakes, my neice, who was 2 at the time, walked up to the casket everyday and high-fived it (even though the casket was closed). It freaked everyone out. And she seemed to know "Pa" was dead before her mom did. Needless to say, when I told my husband about it, he turned several shades of green. Since his death, I've dreamed about the man who would have been my father in law (again, we weren't married at the time) and my grandmother, hanging out in heaven, despite the fact that the two never met each other.

Weird enough? That's only 2 of the weirder ones. I've had odd experiences like this since I was a kid, but I don't remember a lot of the details.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:09 PM
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17. i have consumed many hallucinogens
so i could talk your ear off for hours

i will say that i am very very hesitant to ever make dramatic claims that are hard to turn away from...but LSD changed my life
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:10 PM
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We've been lounged
Screw this noise. I'm only responding to posts anymore.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:10 PM
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18. Awesome Topic
I attempted to raise this subject a year or two ago but it fell totally flat. Hopefully you will have better luck!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:10 PM
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19. Alright we'll make this live on in the lounge then
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 11:17 PM by shadowknows69
n/t
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:13 PM
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20. recent one
We went to a thanksgiving party at our friends house about three years ago in hawaii and met the neighbor, mark, across the alley. hung out in his pad a little that evening. We had a nice time. That was the only time I met him.

So three years later I said to my wife out of the blue, "I wonder how mark is doing"? Didn't know why the thought crossed my mind. Two weeks later she talks to her friend in Hawaii. She says "Remember when you asked me about Mark?" "Yeah" "Well he wrecked his motorcycle and died two weeks ago."

I think that he triggered my thought somehow when he left. I think we can feel when people have passed in a metaphysical way. I have a tough time thinking it was a coincidence.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:17 PM
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21. Yep, all of that and too many times to discuss here..., have
been asked if I was a witch, and deceased husband
believed in my precognition enough to change vacation
plans once.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:18 PM
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22. OK heres one
When my oldest daughter who is now 26 was about 4 months old we moved into an old run down apartment, that I found out as we were moving in a 2 year old girl had died a year earlier. Shortly after moving in her dad and I were sitting watching TV or something and a cloud opaque and bluish grey and yellow rose out of the floor in the living room it hung about a minute and dissipated, leaving an electrical odor behind. Now for the weird part and it was years before it dawned on me, within days my daughter who was a normal 4 month old did a jump in development. I had laid her down on a blanket on the living room floor in about the same spot, I was in the kitchen and I heard a noise so I went to check on her- she was standing up holding on to the TV stand, not wobbly at all. She let go of it and landed on her rump sitting up straight-no help, then flipped over and crawled away on all 4's-knees and elbows. When I had laid her down a half hour earlier she was a completely normal 4 month old, if you have kids you know 4 month olds do not generally do these things, from that point on she progressed to walking in about 5 weeks. Now it was years before the idea of possession entered my mind but..... She is normal in most ways but as a child was attracted to the occult to the point of painting pentacles on her bedroom walls by the time she was 9 no encouragement or discouragement from me or her dad on this, she did it on her own.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:23 PM
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25. did your daughter continue her interest in the occult?
That is a remarkable story. Since were already beyond reason I don't think posession could be ruled out but if you didn't see any other extreme behavior from your child it may have been temporary or even apparently somehow beneficial.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:30 PM
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28. Yes,she is a solo
practitioner of Wiccan magik, she is self taught, I came into it another way, later when she was in her late teens.
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:38 PM
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32. 2nd hand story
was told by my prep school gym teacher and his daughter. They used to live in an old house (1800s) in our small town. His daughter was my age when they told the story, she was 3 or 4 at the time of the story.

He said they kept a decorative plate on the fireplace mantle. One time they came home and the plate was standing straight up. He said another time he came in the room and the plate was out in the middle of the room on the floor. He asked his young child how it got there and she said "the lady put it there". (there was no lady in the house at the time).

I had no reason to think they were trying to pull a fast one, because he wasn't that type, plus it was a matter of fact story with the smallest bit of supernaturality. Someone trying to tell a ghost story would make up something a little more exciting. It wasn't like he and is daughter were thinking "lets make up a ghost story and tell it."

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:49 PM
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38. nice
n/t
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:18 PM
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23. Three.
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 11:22 PM by BuyingThyme
1. On New Year's Eve, circa 1976, I saw what one might call a ghost. This was pre-drinking age.

2. On New Year's Eve, circa 1979, I saw what one might call a ghost. Still pre-drinking age.

3. In the Summer of 1985 I was playing a drinking game called Mexicali. On three consecutive rolls I, without knowing why, called Mexicali without even looking at the (two) dice. It was Mexicali (a two and a one) on all three throws.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:48 PM
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37. I think I was attacked by a spirit once
briefly thank Gods but definitely one of the most terrifying things I've experienced.

I was at a friend's house, and it was a house of great negativity and also had a history of phenomenom. For example my friend told me when he was a child he saw a small sinister dwarfish man walk out of a solid wall and into another across a narrow hallway. In the words of Shaggy: "Zoinks yo."

Anyhoo we were sitting there watching some tv and I admit I hadn't had very much sleep the night before, to the point of near exhaustion, but suddenly I sensed something different in the vibe of the room. I had experiences before this so my senses about such things had been honed. I was literally in the middle of a sentence to my friend trying to relay my feelings to him when, and this is the best way I can describe this, something dropped from the ceiling and rushed at me. Spirit, I don't know, I have to guess so because it wasn't solid and it was nearly invisible but it had an impact none the less. I say nearly invisible because I actually saw it come at me but it was like a black wisp of smoke and it was FAST.

It knocked me unconcsious for a second and I think I did an almost cartoonish shaking of my head when I came to and looked right at my friend who could tell something fucked up had just happened to me. I think I instinctively, somehow psychicly threw it at him because he turned ghostly white all of a sudden and got this look of panic and terror in his face. I didn't stick around though I ran out the front door until I came to a huge tree in his front yard. In some of my spiritual ventures I've learned the power of trees and they offer protection for good souls in need or at least they're excellent battery rechargers. Some of you will know what I'm talking about.

Anyway my friend agreed something nasty had probably visited us that night and I can't help but thinking it wasn't even a human spirit because there was even a bizzare audible quality to this thing as it rushed me. I heard it as well as saw it but what I heard is simply undescribable. Believe it or not as Ripley would say.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:46 AM
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47. Try to describe the sound!
If it was indeed a sound, there must be some way you can explain it...

pleeeeze...
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:56 AM
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53. A rushing or hissing?
It could be my mind created it to put to the movement I was seeing.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:38 PM
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33. Your grammar is unclear - you want a full list of everyone throughout
time and space who has had a supernatural experience? And you are curious how their experience changed our individual worldview?

Or are you asking if we (as specific individuals) have had a supernatural experience, and if so, how (if at all) it changed our personal worldview?

:shrug:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:53 PM
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40. Everyone throughout time and space will do
and DU's servers being able to hold that many new members would be proof of the supernatural in itself.
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hpot Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:43 PM
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34. A few years ago..
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 11:56 PM by hpot
*2 Spontaneous telepathic experiences with a brother-in-law.
*Some precognition.
*A constant visual perception of a whirling fan above my head (aka. chakra - still current - no way to switch it off).
*Some clairvoyance.

The most exceptional experience was when my brother-in-law tried to remember a girl's name. Before he could remember and speak her name, I "heard" it clearly as if he already mentioned it. It was a name unknown to me and what I "heard" was off by the first letter. It was spontaneous so I have no idea as to how it can be controlled.

On an interesting note, my brother had brain surgery (long before the experience) for a lodged bullet and survived. Most relatives that knew him claimed he was an entirely different person before the operation. He is the only person I have been successful with when it comes to telepathy.

Based on the experience and a few clairvoyant tests we devised afterwards, I am convinced the brain is capable of sending and receiving information on some level. Many could consider it supernatural but I see it as an issue worthy of scientific exploration.

There have been many other events in my life but telepathy is the most tangible. It would be very easy to attribute everything else as hallucination, coincidence, delusion or subconscious trickery.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:45 PM
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35. I've had some supernatural experiences,
not quite as exceptional as things moving, psychic attack, witness to posession etc. etc. but getting there.

They changed my view about life after death, I believe that we continue on in some form.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:46 PM
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36. what's exceptional
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 11:47 PM by pitohui
i;ve had supernatural experiences

i refuse to let it change my world view

god sucks, if he wants my respect or attention, suggest he start with impeachment of *co and no more freakin' hurricanes

totally minor freaking with reality is just Not Gonna Cut It this time of century

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:59 PM
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41. I've had several recently.
OK it's probably a mistake to even post this. But I keep having dreams about plane crashes. Now, that in itself is not unusual - it's pretty common for people to dream about disasters, especially if they're under stress and everything seems chaotic (which is true for me right now). BUT, these dreams are so incredibly vivid - details that just sear into my mind - not like the dreamy, quickly forgotten episodes I usually have.

Anyway, I'm in a strange city at a conference. It's in Canada (which I haven't been to in many years). I'm staying at a downtown hotel - Toronto? Vancouver? I dunno. For some reason, I'm driving - maybe to a meeting or something. I'm on the highway with other cars. I'm driving a big SUV (which is odd because I hate them), and I'm up high and can see over most of the other cars. It's midday - more toward afternoon. It smells wet outside, like it's rained recently. Off to my right, I see a large cargo jet - specifically cargo, not passenger - flying low to the ground. Immediately I know something is wrong because it's just way too low. Other cars see it too, and start braking. It just seems to be floating - sometimes those really big planes just don't seem to be moving - then it tips sideways and plunges down over a small hill. I don't see the impact, but FEEL it - even in my dream - just a massive concussion force BWAWHAM!. And it wakes me up with the explosion ringing in my ears...I keep thinking that I actually heard an explosion outside and just incorporated it into my dream, but no - it's just me.

I've had this dream three times in the past few years - I just can't shake it. Honestly, it's starting to freak me out a little.

Is that supernatural, or am I just going batty?

Another time, back when I was a strict fundamentalist (long story for another time), I was on a summer mission with about 30 other college kids my age. We were staying in a ski dorm in Lake Placid, NY. I was sound asleep, when a supremely creepy voice whispered right into my ear "So you think you're a Christian". I woke up screaming so loud even the girls down the hall came running in.

And finally, another time in college, I had decided to stay on campus during Easter. I had a lot to catch up on. I was sleeping in my room - the rest of the dorm was empty. As I slept, I heard someone's alarm clock going off down the hall - one of those windup bell-type clocks. It was nothing at first, but then it got louder and louder as if it were moving closer and closer to me, until it was ringing right in my ears! I woke up in a flop sweat.

I have problems with dreams. Maybe I just need a good Ambien or something.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:03 AM
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42. L:ake Placid
There is some powerful stuff in the lands of Upstate NY. I had one of my most profound experiences at school in central NY. There is actually a legend about a vortex to other dimensions in a park in the city I live in.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:05 AM
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43. Well, it musta did something to me, cuz that's where it started.
Do you ever read Charles DeLint? He's a master at the "vortex to another dimension" story. Good reads.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:10 AM
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54. I am also from upstate, NY -- not far from Lake Placid.
I grew up in a house that was built by my great-great grandfather and great grandfather. My great grandfather and great grandmother lived in the house for years and years.

My bedroom was on the second floor; the only way to reach the window would be with a ladder. One night I was lying in bed and I heard a light tapping on the window. I figured that it was starting to rain and got up to look out. As soon as I stepped out of bed, there was a very loud banging on the window -- like someone was trying to get in.

I was frozen stiff and could not move -- I was afraid to. I finally crawled back into bed and did not sleep a wink that night.

My parents still live in the house. My mom told me that one night when she and my father were watching tv, they heard footsteps upstairs. My father looked at my mother and said, "Do you ever get the feeling that we are not the only ones living here?"
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:32 AM
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46. The tale of the sparkling Taj Mahal...About thirty years ago, while
living in San Francisco with my boyfriend, a little replica of the Taj Mahal began a low humming sound and giving off sparks. We both saw it and were, to put it mildly, amazed. Unfortunately that little bit of magic broke into smithereens one day. I was profoundly effected by this incident but have never been able to understand the significance. However, I feel honored to have witnessed something so incredibly beautiful and, to borrow your word, exceptional.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 12:53 AM
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48. One I feel comfortable
sharing - many are too personal, and I don't.

I was still in high school; I had a dream that I was in a Tim Horton's when there was an accident outside (this was long before there was a Horton's on every street corner). I looked out, and there was a semi in a snowbank in the parking lot. Someone had been killed underneath the truck.

I woke up the next day; there hadn't been warnings of a snowstorm the day before, but I awoke to one. Schools were closed.

I knew as soon as I woke up someone was going to die. It was an overwhelming feeling. I told my mother, who of course told me not to worry, but I couldn't settle down the whole day.

It was 9:20 that evening when she got a phone call - from my next door neighbour. Her son (he was 11 or 12) had been shovelling the driveway, and once he finished he asked her if he could go to Tim Horton's and pick up some doughnuts. She said yes, and gave him some money.

He had bought the doughnuts, came out and was on a snowbank in the parking lot when he saw a semi coming; he tried to go up the bank, but instead slid down underneath the truck, and was crushed.

I was in a numb state for weeks. I had no connection to the boy; I had babysat him a few times, nothing more.

The driver of that truck never got over the accident; went he wasn't able to work again and died about 6 months later of a heart attack.

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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:25 AM
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49. It ceases to be exceptional when it becomes the normal state of things
The house I grew up in was "haunted"--that is, there were frequently noises of people going up and down the stairs, opening drawers, weird little things appearing that no one remembered buying or owning, and so on. My parents just told me newer houses make these sounds (my dad had built the house himself, so its entire history was known and it was new). My mom didn't tell me it was "haunted" until I was a grown-up and had moved away.

The most recent weirdness was one night this past summer, while I was sleeping, my younger son, who was still awake with Everythingsxen, saw me walk out of the bathroom. When Xen looked over at me, I was still asleep in the bed and had not gotten up to go to the bathroom. (Maybe my kid hallucinated. Or maybe--cue spooky music--I was walking around outside of my body...)

The really wild stuff, I can't really talk about. The weirdness I've seen has convinced me that there are many things we don't know, maybe things we *can't* know, that Mind is something more than an epiphenomenon of Brain, and most importantly, that no person is all bad or forever lost.

Tucker
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:15 AM
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55. This one happened to my sister.
When my sister was in 8th or 9th grade, she had a friend stay over for the night. They decided that they were going to pitch a tent in the backyard and sleep there.

The next morning the girls come in from the backyard and are sitting down to eat breakfast. My sister said, "I had the weirdest dream last night. I dreamt that there was a large black figure hovering over me -- it was creepy."

My sister's friend turned white as a sheet and she said, "I had the exact same dream."

What was it?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 07:09 AM
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56. Alot. Yesterday I grabbed a bite to eat before heading
home on the S-bahn in Munich, it was close to rush hour, 5pm. I was in an American restaurant, Pope Ratsnest is coming this weekend so the crazies are drifting into town -- anyhow, I get this weird feeling that someone is planning something at that very moment, a feeling of unease. What with Oktoberfest coming, and the recent terror arrests in Germany...

Well, I get down into the train station, and an announcement comes on the speaker that all west bound trains are delayed. Something about the POLIZEI (not a good omen). So I head upstairs and grab a U-bahn to get out of Munich as fast as possible. I find out when I get home that there was a Bomb Scare a few stops over, and the police were alerted to a suitcase left under a train seat.

I had the same weird uneasiness, but worse, on 9-11. That day I was in London.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 07:26 AM
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57. Well, let's see. The last supernatural experience I had
was that my TV turned itself on.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 07:32 AM
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58. I've had psychic abilities:
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 07:32 AM by Fox Mulder
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 08:42 AM
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59. I have, and it was most unpleasent.
We do not have friendly spirits at our house, and they seem to target me.

Scratches appearing while I watch on my arm, watching shadows move around my room, things moving from one side to the other, spirits messing with my phone.

Yeah. Not cool.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 10:08 AM
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60. I have an Ultimate DU Ghost Story thread where
I have compiled all the ghost stories into one thread if you are interested. Lemme know...
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 10:21 PM
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61. Kick because I want to hear scary stories. n/t
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:35 AM
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63. I've hovered before, but I was young and hallucinating.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:59 AM
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64. I don't really have anything I can share right now,
most of it is only significant to me personally, I think, but I thought I would give this a kick, just in case anyone else wants to contribute something.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:26 AM
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65. A few interesting experiences
When I was young we lived in Southeast Asia. The neighborhood where we used to live in was a beautiful and pleasant area away from the hustle and bustle of metropolitan life and we lived in a house with a magnificent garden. But apparently the Japanese had also used the neighborhood during their occupation of the country in question during WWII and I always used to wonder whether there was any connection between that and the incidences that happened there.

When I was young, my family and I would all sleep in the one bedroom and sometimes I would lie awake at night while all my other family members were asleep and I would hear what sounded like footsteps. They usually sounded like whatever (or whoever) was making the noise was either on the staircase leading up to the second floor where our bedroom was or that it was actually walking through our second floor corridor –albeit not in close proximity to the bedroom that we were in. We had a servant living with us at the time and I used to think it was her but I subsequently managed to ascertain that it wasn’t here. Even at that young age, I was able to run through and rule out quite a few explanations. I’m still not sure whether it was anything out of this world but whatever it was, I don’t remember the noise being a factor in my later years in the house.

One night my father woke in the early hours of the morning and I subsequently couldn’t sleep and woke up and followed him outside. After one or two hours, we decided to return to bed but we decided to go and sleep in the guest bedroom because didn’t want to disturb our family by going back in our own bedroom. The guest bedroom also served a double function as the room that my sister and I sometimes used and we had a whole lot of toys (mostly furry toys) scattered on the shelves. My dad and I were lying in bed and he was reading while I was trying to get to sleep. Suddenly I swear that I saw one of the toys on the shelf move itself slightly –sort of like a human movement, it shifted slightly to the right. Keep in mind that the shelf was away from anywhere where the wind could impact it and the furry toy in question was quite heavy so it wouldn’t have been impacted by the fan in the room. Besides the movement in question looked like the sort of movement, a human being would make –something that had to involve a decision-making process. I was frightened out of my mind but too scared to say anything to dad. The next day I got an uneasy feeling looking at that toy

One night I was sitting alone in the living room of that house when I heard this voice say “hello”. It sounded quite creepy (although I must emphasize that I didn’t get the impression that it was evil) and I was scared out of my wits.

I had an overwhelming feeling that my paternal grandfather’s time on this earth was limited before he passed away. I hadn’t seen him for many years (he lived in a different part of the world than us) but I had the strong feeling that time was running out to see him. This is not as remarkable as it seems because he was not in the best of health but nevertheless he was not terminally ill or anything and there were no immediate indications to suggest that he may be close to death. One night I found myself thinking of him and grandma and I briefly mentioned to dad that it would be nice to see him again. That turned out to be the very same night that he passed away

I’m not sure whether my feelings during this period of time could have been telepathic because apparently my grandfather conveyed very similar sentiments to my father during a visit he made there approximately one or two months before he died. But I don’t recollect my father ever telling me about what my grandfather conveyed to him until after he passed away

I had two experiences with what I believe very strongly to be the spirit of that same grandfather when I went to visit my grandmother in the house the Christmas after he passed away. The first encounter frightened me (not because my grandfather’s ghost intended to be frightening but because I was 10 at the time and I knew it to be a supernatural experience) but the second encounter much less so. My grandmother also later said that she felt his presence in the house until a while after when she believed that he moved on to the next world

My maternal grandparents have also appeared to me in several dreams since they died –at least a few of which have left me convinced that they were not merely a figment of my imagination. The one experience I’ll relate here happened a while ago. I dreamed that I was in my grandfather’s house with my grandfather and my sister and that he was preparing to walk through into his indoor garden. My grandfather was extremely frail during the last years of his life and I suddenly felt petrified that he would have an accident and so I reached out to grab him and steady him like I sometimes did in the final years of his life. He turned to me and told me in a very gentle voice conveying lots of happiness that I didn’t need to do that anymore, that he was fine and he didn’t have his infirmities anymore. I remember feeling a really pleasant and uplifting sensation and I suddenly woke up. Then I remembered that it was the tenth anniversary of his departure from this earth.

The overwhelming message I seem to get from my grandfather (and now my grandmother, who has passed away recently and seems to be making appearances in some of my more recent dreams) is “don’t worry, we haven’t left your lives, we are still here with you”. They seem to want to tell me this using images that I recognize, such as the surroundings of their old house. Whatever it is that gives me these recurring dreams of my grandparents, I hope it keeps up. I always enjoy those dreams
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:47 AM
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66. I don't believe I have had any
But I enjoy hearing these stories, so I wanted to post to kick the thread. My only interesting (or at least sort of interesting) experiences that are sometimes associated with the supernatural are some experiences I have had in a dream state. For example, I have had nightmares where something lunged at me and knocked the wind out of me, and then when I woke up I couldn't breathe for a few seconds and couldn't move my body for a little longer. However, I have had this weird inability to move my body when I first woke up a few times, and I think it just had to do with falling asleep in a certain position or waking up in a certain stage of sleep. The dream that went along with it that one time just made it much scarier! Also, I once had a very realistic dream where I had walked out of the bed, across my room, and looked out the window; when I woke up I remembered "feeling" the carpet on my toes and the temperature of the glass on the window, and it just felt too real to be a dream. However, I think all that happened was that I had been influenced by a book I had been reading that had a storyline involving "astral projection" and had been thinking about what that would be like. Anyway, yeah, that's all I've got... If I think of anything truly supernatural that's ever happened to me I'll post it later.
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