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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:56 AM
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Youtube - Is this a bad mom?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E859GsKOOQo

I really hate her. Poor kid x(
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:05 AM
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1. OMG..Did she not realize that girl was sliding down and the belts
were hurting her? Poor kid. I realize there's not much the Mom could have done..but perhaps she could have stopped laughing.

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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:08 AM
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2. If that was her mom
...the girl kept calling her Janice...

But yeah...if that was her mother she's a bitch. I don't think the girl was ever really in danger, though it probably hurt a bit, she wasn't going anywhere, and she could breathe...but she was scared to death. Anyone who keeps laughing at their child when the child is scared or freaking out or crying is a total evil heartless bitch, imho.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:22 AM
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3. Am I a bad husband?
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 09:23 AM by DaveTheWave
I scare my wife all the time. It's too easy. I can walk up behind her and say BOO! and she'll jump, turn around, I'll wait two seconds and say BOO! again and she'll still jump.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:30 AM
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4. That woman is evil.
That wasn't funny at all. The comments people wrote are largely disgusting, too. The kid deserves to be scared and mocked because she's overweight? Whatever. Disgusting.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:35 AM
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5. I didn't read the comments
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 09:35 AM by DaveTheWave
But I still don't see why people still think that way in our society. The same hatred and discrimination against overweight people is no different than hate towards people's race or religion and if you have that kind of hate inside you cannot fool yourself into thinking you're any different from a racist bigot. You just have a different target to throw your hate at.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:42 AM
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6. Exactly.
It pisses me off. I don't understand why people are so cruel to heavier individuals. It's none of their damn business what size a person is, and in general, it's of pretty little consequence to them. Treating a person as subhuman doesn't typically inspire them to change, anyway, and why should they have to, if they don't want to? To appease someone else's aesthetic ideals? Bullshit. Life's too short for that crap.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:03 AM
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10. amen to that! VERY well said. n/t
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:53 AM
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7. Only for letting her kid get so fat.
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 09:54 AM by Deep13
Once the ride started, there was nothing she could do. You know that was a sling-shot seat, right?

The laughing is a result of the adreneline rush. Laughter is involuntary.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:59 AM
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8.  Only for letting her kid get so fat ? ? ?
That makes her a 'bad mom'?

I grew up FAT and I had a wonderful Mom. My being fat had nothing to do with her parenting.

shallow... do you have any clue WHY the child is fat? Could it be a medical issue?

attitudes like that serve no good purpose and only hurt people.


:popcorn:

aA
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:01 AM
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9. Obesity is caused by excessive calories and insufficient exercise.
I don't know what medical issue can create calories out of thin air. A fat younster will likely be a fat adult with health problems her whole life as a result.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:05 AM
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11. hypothyroidism is one medical condition
that causes obesity.

calories are not the ONLY cause.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:15 AM
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14. Does the kid have that?
We don't know, but probably not. Anyway, I not going to assume that she has some rare condition. I guess I am pretty sick of all the excuses that we invent just to avoid being critical of anything. Half of Americans are overweight. When I was a kid, there was a token fat kid in the class. Now it seems like a good fraction of school classes are fat. This is a gigantic health problem and pretending otherwise is not doing anyone any favors. These children are at risk for diabetes and heart disease at a young age. I know from first hand experience that being fat sucks.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:20 AM
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17. yes being fat sucks, but so does ignorance and mean attitudes.
There is no pretending here. I HAD a BMI of 50.6 at my heaviest. I NOW have a BMI of 23.2
The rudeness and lack of understanding from people I came in contact with was appalling. I agree we need to do something about the obesity problem in children, before they become unhealthy adults. Education is a good start.

Your comment about the so called bad mother was totally uncalled for.

aA
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:33 AM
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19. The question in the OP specifically called for it.
Rudeness is rudeness and it is hardly ever acceptable. Never said otherwise. That's different than hiding behind euphemisms and igoring reality to spare a person's feelings. Fact and truth are more important than acceptance and parents are the single biggest influence on a child's behaviour.

The main point of my post was that the mother is not at fault either for laughing or for the kid sliding out of the harness.

This is all I am going to writing on this matter.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:21 PM
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41. The OP calls for general rudeness...
And ignorance on a subject you obviously know nothing about? I didn't get that at all!
Duckie
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:20 PM
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39. Hypothyroidism is not rare.
It actually occurs quite often in teens on up, is found mainly in women, but its not unusual in men.
Duckie
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:13 AM
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12. I disagree
I'm not an expert on it but I do know that my stepdaughter who is overweight ate way smaller portions than the rest of the family and exercised more than the rest of us while she was still at home. It made me so sad for her as she's a wonderful, beautiful young lady who has been made to feel ashamed of her looks and she's in country where treating them less than human is considered acceptable and funny. It hurt me to see the rest of the family dig into a pizza and for her to only eat about half a piece, then go walk two miles or more out of guilt. I wish she could have been able to enjoy a meal the same way the rest of the family did.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:16 AM
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15. Dave, that could have been
ME! My husband was always so surprised at how little I ate. I'm not sedentary although I don't go to the gym either.

Ignorance runs rampant in the discussions and views of people who look at the obese person with disgust. It's very sad indeed.

aA
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:14 AM
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13. You might want to do some research then ..
Just a FEW medical issues contributing and / or causing obesity.

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/o/obesity/causes.htm

over eating and genetics can and do play a part for some, but ignorance isn't acceptable.

Cushing's syndrome (Hypercortisolism) Cushing’s is another frequently suspected cause of
endogenous obesity. Although it is usually iatrogenic in nature, it
can also be secondary to adrenal tumors or primary pituitary
overproduction of adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH).

* Cushing's disease
* Ethanol
* Cushing's syndrome
* Cohen syndrome
* Prader-Willi syndrome
* Melanocortin 4 receptor defect
* Kleine-Levin-Critchley syndrome
* Adiposogenital dystrophy
* Prednisolone
* Polyphagia
* Young-Hughes syndrome
* Hypothyroidism
* Laron dwarfism
* X-linked mental retardation-hypotonic facies syndrome
* Borjeson-Forssman-Lehmann syndrome
* Pseudohypoparathyroidism type 1a
* Pituitary tumour (growth hormone secreting)
* Insulinoma
* Bardet-Biedl syndrome

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:17 AM
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16. Law of Conservation of Matter
Added mass must come from somewhere.
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:11 PM
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27. Well of course if you don't eat you won't gain weight
That's the point behind anorexia :eyes:

But not everyone's body processes those calories in exactly the same way.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:24 PM
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42. Do you know how little I ate and how much I moved in HS?
But due to my metabolic disorder, I gained 60 pounds between my freshman and senior years.
Duckie
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:34 AM
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20. I had a nasty case of Laron Dwarfism
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Divameow77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:16 PM
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28. Isn't there treatment for
most (if not all) of those conditions?

Not being a smartass, really asking :-)
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:19 PM
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38. Actually, it can be caused by metabolic disorders...
such as hypothyroidism, which is what caused my weight gain as a child. You need to keep your mouth shut about issues you obviously don't understand. You obviously have never had a weight problem, because if you had, you'd know how hard it is to lose weight, no matter why you put on the weight.
Duckie
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:17 PM
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37. You are exactly Correct!
thanks for saying it. I had a whole response typed out, but it probably would have gotten me banned or something.
Duckie
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:21 AM
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18. OMG - that was horrible.
Absolutely no concern for her child who, whether in danger or not, was completely terrified. All she did was laugh instead of provide comfort to her child. UGH.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:37 AM
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21. Nothing she could have done about it.
For liberals, y'all are pretty quick to rush to judgment.

They were strapped into a slingshot. Once it started, g-forces prevented either of them from doing anything. Laughter is involuntary and was likely caused by adreniline. You all are condeming her not for bad actions, but for "wrong" thinking.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:39 AM
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22. Nope - don't agree.
I'm a mother, and if that had been my child, once the ride stopped, I would have unstrapped myself and immediately comforted my child - hugged her, whatever - instead of laughing and ignoring her. I saw absolutely no concern on that mother's face.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:48 AM
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24. Was she even the mother?
Anyway, you are blaming her for what seems to be a lack of hypersensitivity. That kid is not an infant, after all. My mother would have and did in fact do exactly the same thing. It was a roller coaster and she somehow managed to convince me to ride it again.
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Divameow77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:23 PM
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30. I don't know is her being the mother or not is
even that relevant... I would try to help any child sitting next to me.

That being said, I do think the other video of the couple on the ejection seat is funny, the one where the woman was sliding down and her man just kind of stared at her the whole time.
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celtdem Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:10 PM
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35. Your mother treated you like this?
Well, that would explain your lack of compassion, I guess.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:48 AM
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25. Do the world a favor and don't have kids
AFTER the ride was over she had the chance to see her child was distressed and kept on laughing anyway. Not good. The fact he was fat had nothing to do with her lack of comforting her frightened child.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:52 AM
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26. That's my decision, not yours.
As I said, she had an adreneline rush that probably did not end with the ride. Comforting? The kid is a teenager. How much comforting does she need?

Is that child a male or a female? There seems to be a split of opinion here.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:41 PM
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34. Eh, if my mom gets nervous, she laughs hysterically and uncontrollably.
She totally can't help it, even if it's a super inappropriate situation. She probably would have cracked up there. So I can't really blame the woman.
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celtdem Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:11 PM
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36. The woman seems not at all concerned, even at the end of the ride.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 10:45 AM
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23. In fairness to Janice, it looks as though she is removing ear plugs
from her ears at the end, so she might not have heard the child screaming.

:shrug:

Poor kid. My son hated fast rides when he was little, so I sympathize.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 12:17 PM
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29. Eh.
It'd be pretty hypocritical of me to blame her for laughing.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:30 PM
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32. bump
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:23 PM
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31. I laughed, I admit it.
I kid didn't look like he/she was in any real danger. Growing up we did much worse things on purpose to our friends.

flame away!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:33 PM
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33. how do you know its a mom?
Why would the kid call his mom "Janice"?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 05:21 PM
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40. You can see her pull the iPod earphones
out at the end of the ride. She probably had no clue the kid was in trouble.
Plus, the kid called her "Janice" not "Mom", as far as I could tell she wasn't her mom at all.
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