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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 11:29 AM
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Watched LOTR RoTK yesterday.....
and when Frodo and Sam walked through Mordor...I thought, "Oh
geez...that looks like Texas after Bush's reign."
All those orcs and goblins...the future "expanded army" of Rummy...

Its just not right the parallels of that movie to the present
day US. Somebody on these forums had asked: "How do you see the
US with another 4 years of Bush reign." And someone quite witty
replied:
"In short: Mordor..."

Oh how right that poster was...
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:03 PM
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1. Isn't it odd? When the first movie, The Fellowship of the Ring
came out, there was lots of discussion about the struggle between good and evil. The Shire and the Fellowship = good. Saruman, Mordor and the orcs = evil.

They also compared it in terms of religion. The Catholic faith is seen as good here, battling against evil = islam.

Interesting parallels. Even more interesting is what's happened over the duration of the 3 movies. Maybe it's a role reversal?

I kept thinking about Bush when I watched Sauron and his orcs. Hm?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 05:20 PM
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2. I think these movies are anti-war
with a strong message of loyalty and love. I don't know how the Repukes could ever coopt LOTR.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 04:04 AM
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3. But the Repug media did...
I remember a long cover story last year in either Time or Newsweek about the second film in the series. They speculated that much of the success of the first film was due to it coming so soon after 9/11 and that its theme of "good versus evil" was in tune with the revived sense of "moral clarity" coming from the White House.

They also praised Sam's "there is some good in the world, and it's worth fighting for" speech as "one of the high points" in the second episode, after observing that "it sounds like something George W. Bush would say."

:puke:

BTW, I don't get the "Roman Catholic versus Islam" theory mentioned earlier. Although Tolkien was a devout Roman Catholic, if we are talking about the original books, the conflict was pretty obviously symbolic of the Allies versus the Nazis in WWII, while any modern interpretation that would equate Mordor with Islam would no doubt draw a parallel between the "forces of good" in Tolkien and "Western Civilization" nowadays.

:eyes:
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