OMG I just busted my son's baseball manager kinking the stats numbers

[hang a left]

REALLY BAD- I have been suspecting this prick of having it out for a couple of the boys (mine is not one of them) and playing favorites with his son and his son's friend. I post the stats on a newly designed website I published. I also keep a scorebook because I write the game recaps that get posted onto the website. So I have all the numbers. But tonight when I started to change add the numbers from this weeks game to our numbers from the tournament we played over Labor Day Weekend, I noticed some oddities. We started a back and forth email initially because I was questioning a couple of the new stats. He conceded he had made a mistake, but then I started to look even further and told him I wanted to investigate. We had a couple more exchanges, and the last three were just emails from me calling him out about a couple of other stats. He then quit replying. Finally in my last email I said. "You know something is really wrong with these numbers. I hope it is just an innocent mistake" and said goodnight.

Now, what do I do?? Should I go to the owner of the organization and tell him he is kinking the numbers with his buddy? Trying to fuck over a couple of kids, and elevate his, and his buddy's son. OMG I am in shock. I can't even believe it. And this guy is the biggest asshole freeper, napoleon complex, dickwad I have met in a long time. WHat would you do???????

[GetTheRightVote]

1. difficult situation but other boys should not be hurt for his son etc.

I hope the team does not need this guy because he should be made to face up to what he is doing to them. These are just children playing a game, it really is a very poor world with people like him in it. How old is this guy ?

:kick:

[hang a left]

7. late 40's early 50's

with a support our troops magnet on his truck

[fooj]

2. Hold him accountable. Call him on his FRAUDULENT, UNETHICAL

behavior. What kind of behavior is this dude modeling for those kids?

[Broken_Hero]

17. My thoughts exactly...:) nt

[TomInTib]

3. What age group?

Keep it in perspective.

I coached two Little League World Series teams.

And then we went on....

[hang a left]

4. 12U Travel Ball and League Play

Private, expensive

[bettyellen]

14. so some kids deserve a more ethical coach than others?

which kids? the wealthier, or "more talented"? what a lovely "perspective" to tach the kids.
:puke:

[rooboy]

5. Give his phone number to a military recruiter. n/t

[file83]

6. The guy's a freeper? BUST HIS ASS!! Expose the guy for what he's done

but only if you have proof. If you have solid records and can prove who he screwed over - let them know. Your kids will think mighty highly of you - and above all it's the right thing to do (and you know it).

Muster up some courage and move forward with it.

[magellan]

8. His politics don't matter, if he's doing wrong it needs righting

I don't have any experience of this but of rigging of numbers in my favor in a completely different area. I had no idea it was going on until the guy confessed, and it shattered me. Totally blew away all the self confidence I'd gained. For the sake of all the kids including his son and the friend, if numbers are being screwed with it needs to be stopped.

[Diane R]

9. Sadly, this is not unusual.

A father on my son's high school team always kept score. His kid was often featured in the newspaper for four hits in each game. I finally realized the dad was crediting the kid with a hit, even if he was thrown out at first. Didn't matter; the kid got a baseball scholarship to Gonzaga.

After the first year of college, you never heard from him again. I finally understood that he was the true victim.

[Cobalt-60]

10. Teach the kids to crunch the numbers

When each one of them can calculate the statistics, they're much harder to fool.
It'll also be a good lesson for them in just how rotten some people really are.

[hang a left]

11. I am really stuggling here

I don't know what to do.

[lildreamer316]

12. GO to the other parents.

Call a meeting. DO THIS NOW BEFORE HE GETS TO THEM AND BADMOUTHS YOU. Do not say everything in the invite, but make sure they know this is serious. You can all make the decision together.

[borlis]

13. OMG this is so typical and sad.

My son has played travel baseball for 4 years (he is U13 now) and while I haven't seen (yet)anything as bad as this, I have seen and heard many things similar. It's a real shame that youth sports have become so political. Around where we live if you question or complain too much you become "labeled" as such and fear that next year your kid won't make the team. A few years ago I knew before the tryout that my son was making the team! The man who coached/managed our team for the past 3 years stepped down this past year when too many parents started to question some of his policies. Privately, most parents were complaining to each other about him constantly promoting his own kid. His philosophy was to win first and develop the kids later. Most of the parents (including myself) thought totally opposite. Everyone was relieved this year when word got out that he wasn't coaching. The biggest and most important difference it made was with the kids who were out there playing 4 nights a week. They totally responded to the new coach/manager, who was a different parent, but one who played college ball, actually cared about all the kids on the team and it showed when the season was over. These young men finished in 3rd place out of 17 teams after about 50 games. Some of them were even in tears at their last game because they didn't want the season to be over. We the parents are hopeful this coach will be back next year (hasn't yet committed.)

I would start by confiding in some other parents on the team (maybe someone you are friendly with.) Go from there, but cautiously. Good luck and let us know how it turns out! :hi:

[jobycom]

15. Go to the owner, but don't accuse the manager

Just go to the owner and tell him you found some errors in the stats. Give him the correct numbers, show him proof. Don't accuse the manager, don't bring it up with the other parents, or it will look like you have a vendetta, and the kids will get dragged into it, and it will be a mess. Just show the owner what the numbers should be, and let him draw his own conclusions. Don't cover for the other guy, keep the emails private unless you've said something that he could use against you. If the owner asks questions, answer what you know, leave out what you suspect--such as motivations, etc.

The less you make a fuss about it, the less the kids get hurt. Treat it as a mistake. If the evidence is so clear that the owner sees it as obvious number rigging, he will do what he has to do. But if you accuse, then the kids start getting involved, and that's not what you want. If it's treated as a bookkeeping error somewhere, maybe the hard feelings will be avoided, and maybe the manager will keep quiet out of guilt.

Are there any other repurcussions? Do these numbers get used for anything outside of the baseball organization? If so, especially if there is a commercial or financial aspect to it, it could be a crime. If these numbers would be used on scholarship applications, or for advancement to some other type of team, there could be a legal implication. You don't want to sit on these numbers, because if they one day came out, you could be in trouble. Not a lot, probably, but still, you never know.

[reyd reid reed]

16. You need to make someone aware of it

You've given him the opportunity to clean up his act...wait a minute and see if he does and then blow the whistle. The worst part of it is that he's teaching these kids to cheat.

That's just wrong.

On so many levels.