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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:10 AM
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Poll question: How many people can one man fire in a month before
you would start thinking that the problem is NOT with the people but, with the man himself? what about how many people in a year?
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:34 AM
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1. who voted? would you care to comment?
my boss has fired 3 people this month...so I am really interested in what you would have to say...
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:41 AM
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2. Sometimes you might need to fire a whole slew of employees to straighten

out a mess.

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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:47 AM
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3. I can see doing that all in one fell swoop....
and starting with a clean slate...but this man has had 4 and 1/2 years and still no progress has been made that I can see..
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:59 AM
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5. I said "two".
But it really depends. How many people are working for him? If he has, say 50 people, two in a month would not indicate he is a problem. On the other hand, from what you've said, I'd say your boss is the problem. Maybe he is getting pressure from above, hence the sudden spurt of firings?:hi:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:11 AM
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9. thanks for posting...
this man has been here 4 1/2 years. I have only been here 1 1/2 years. It is an emergency department in a smallish county hospital. We have a total of 18 beds in th ER. plus a 6 room urgent care that is only open from 11-11...plus a 3 bed post op
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:05 AM
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7. Perhaps he's trying to weed out the worst of the bunch.

Also remember that ... It takes time to properly acclimate the replacements.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:09 AM
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8. thing is....he has hired and fied so many people
that the drs. can't keep up with the new people and neither can the ambulance people or for that matter the rest of the hospital...
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:15 AM
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10. It sounds like he needs to take a month off so things can settle down..

Hospitals don't run well while there is chaos everywhere.

It would be a tragedy if the patients start to suffer,
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:29 AM
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11. i think it would take longer than a month for things to settle
down. it takes at least 6 months before a new hire can really be considered an asset and all we have right now is new hires!! some of these are leaving before their 90 days are up!!

he has let negotiations with our Drs disintegrate to the point that they do not care if their contract is picked up or not.

We can run without an administrator but how can we run without doctors???
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:01 AM
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14. From what you've told us, sounds to me like HE is the problem.

Is he a bully?
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:31 AM
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17. I would say YES, he is a BULLY...
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 10:39 AM by wildhorses
He uses scare tactics to manipulate people and he puts people down in front of other people and I don't care for his style of management. I am willing to call it a personality conflict for the sake of diplomacy.

but, if I ever see him out....:kick:...wildhorses stampede!!!
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:37 AM
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19. Sounds like a real asshole.
It's amazing how many people think bullying and being an asshole is a good management style. :shrug: :rollseyes:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:43 AM
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21. I really don't get it...but so far it seems to have worked for him...
maybe this is a click that goes as high up as the VP...but, I don't know if it goes as high up as the Pres.

whatever happened to teamwork and pitching in and rolling up your sleeves and not asking someone to do something that you yourself would NOT do??
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:06 AM
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23. I don't get it either. Some people get away with this for years. nt
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:55 AM
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12. all of these people are people that he in fact HIRED!!!
:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:




I mean REALLY...







:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:57 AM
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13. You know what that means
he's an idiot
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:02 AM
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15. i was afraid of that...
:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:





i think it is time to find another place of employment. paranoia is rampant and morale is at an all time low...as in deep in the abyss








:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:17 PM
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25. Unfortunately he's proving that his judgment is seriously flawed.
I suppose he needs to learn how to do his job better.

BTW Is he trying to hire competent employees or future dates? :evilgrin:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:21 PM
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28. oh....that is the question....
I have heard some stuff...but, trying to be fair I am at this point calling it a rumor:eyes:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 08:57 AM
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4. Is this one of those "how many streets must a man walk down" question?
How many workers must an asshole fire? The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind

:P
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:00 AM
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6. i love you billyskank
:rofl:



you are prolly right...thanks mr. dylan!!
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:09 AM
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16. I voted three. Your boss obviously has a problem.
I've seen this stuff happen before. :scared:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:37 AM
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18. thanks for the emotional support, and vote of confidence.
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 10:38 AM by wildhorses
you guys, whether you know or not, are helping me make a life altering decision. I have come to love y'all and trust the consensus. It seems that somewhere in all the hoopla we manage to find the seed of truth and light the candle of justice in this darkness of ignorance that abounds.



Here! Here!

O mighty warriors,

rise up and let yourselves be recognized

for the mighty force that is THE LOUNGE :yourock:
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:40 AM
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20. Sweetie, you almost made me cry just now!
Holy shit! :wow: :loveya: :loveya: :hug: :grouphug: :cry: :yourock: :pals:

And the only other advice I have is you keep your baby blues WIDE OPEN, like you already have been doing!
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:47 AM
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22. ~~~~
:blush:


and you better believe I am keeping them WFO!!


:loveya::hug::grouphug::pals::grouphug::hug::loveya:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:17 AM
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24. Is there anything common among those fired?
Age, race, gender, et cetera?

Reason I ask is, seven of us were fired from a newspaper about three years ago. At least one of the seven noticed that all were over 40 and consulted an attorney. We sued for age discrimination and settled.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:26 PM
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29. well, they are all white females...
one in her twenties and the other two in their fourties...but, I would really like to see his record for the past year. It has been happening but, it got really blatant this month.

Also, I think the rate of people leaving needs to be looked into...that shows some disatisfation and turmoil and makes me wonder if as an outsider they saw something that we couldn't see.

As in: we couldn't see the forest for looking at the trees...
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:20 PM
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26. "The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind..."
"The answer is blowin' in the wind. :)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:20 PM
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27. Depends on the employer, but some have no fuckin' clue whatsoever
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:38 PM
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30. An entire boatload
literally....millionaire business man down here just fired THE ENTIRE CREW of the schooner Western Union...an old schooner (beautiful) that is used to take tourists out. And this in the slow season, when these folks will have a harder time getting jobs...
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:55 PM
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31. Sometimes, the boss has another agenda, like avoiding workers comp
I worked for a very short time at an insurance office which consisted of the owner, and two employees of which I was one of those employees. Believe me, they don't have the physical room for more than two employees with 7 large file cabinets and two desks in an 11x11 room! The AHole fired me after only a month and a half. Others had come before me, and I would see the ad for the position a couple of times a year after I was let go. I asked the unemployment office if there was something this guy was gaining by keeping people only a short time, and they told me that they did not have to pay workmans comp or something if it was under a certain period of time.

He made me work mandatory overtime, which he never paid me for and he never gave me lunch breaks.
I should report him to the Labor Board....really.
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