Has CNN fired Nancy Grace for forcing that 21 yr old woman to kill herself

[sasquatch]

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[BreweryYardRat]

1. Buh?

Little more detail, please?

[sasquatch]

2. Here's a link

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2448050&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

[BreweryYardRat]

20. Damn.

What an insensitive cunt Nancy Grace is. :grr:

[Guy Fawkes]

3. Hello, I'm the voice of reason.

Nancy Grace did not "force" the woman to kill herself. In no way did she ever tell her to kill herself, insinuate that she should kill herself, or even mention the idea of suicide. Yes, her interview may have been part of a large amount of stress that caused the woman to commit suicide.

But she didn't force the woman to kill herself, nor is she directly responsible for the woman's death. Should she be fired? Maybe yes, maybe no. She asked a hard question, and that isn't something the news does very often any more, is it...

[leftofthedial]

4. hell no!

she created a story as good as a missing blond girl

[Skittles]

5. people don't kill themselves because of the last thing that happened

they kill themselves after a lifetime of self-doubt, depression and inability to cope

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[Skittles]

9. well something is always the last thing

it simply is never the sole cause

[ScreamingMeemie]

10. I do believe my father in law would still be with us if it wasn't for that

last thing. I think sometimes, with suicides, it's too hard to fit into a box. Each situation is so wildly different from the next. With my boyfriend in high school I believed the mind set of the time that if they talked about it they weren't going to actually do it and I was really wrong. There is a great site called 1,000 deaths that I find a lot of solace from. I don't spend nearly as much time what iffing as I used to. :(

[bertha katzenengel]

16. MrsGrumpy --

thanks for the link. For me it's been 34 years; for my best friend, whose brother killed himself, it's been almost 30. I'm sure we'll both benefit from that site (if I can ever get it to load).

:hug:

[Deja Q]

36. You are quite correct...

[Heidi]

7. That was not an interview. It was an interrogation.

That's not how ethical journalists conduct themselves. She's a bully.

Here, see for yourselves:

Background and some video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1DTCf2GSGw

Transcript: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/08/ng.01.html

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

11. With everyone saying it was an interrogation, I thought it would've been

worse. It was unsympathetic, sure, but she's "Cooperated with everyone. . ." . I find it hard to believe that a little ol news reported is going to be more hardcore than the cops or FBI.

Bully or not, what reporters do is interrogate and investigate. What's the point of an interview that just says "Well, here she is, her kid's gone, help her find him! Thanks for comming on the show!" and then ending it.

[Heidi]

12. I was a journalist for more than 20 years in the US.

That's not how an ethical journalist conducts an interview.

[idgiehkt]

24. Right. I've even seen her rough up Mark Klaas a couple of times.

She's really accusatory in a sensationalistic fashion for some reason I can't really articulate well. She's playing psychological games with her audience, always shifting culpability to the subject of her interviews no matter who they are. It's like she believes that the facts of whatever case being discussed don't hold enough weight for the viewer to be able to deduce the truth from them. In other words, she's acting like a prosecutor and treating the audience like a jury, and most of the time there is no opposing side to say objection and no judge to sustain it. So in cases like this it becomes a train wreck. I think maybe this mom is protecting herself or someone else; in either case, she more than likely knows her child is dead, because very few mentally stable mothers would kill themselves knowing their child was still alive out there somewhere.

[bertha katzenengel]

13. "Grace said the focus should not be on the interview, but on finding Trent

"Grace said the focus should not be on the interview, but on finding Trenton Duckett."

You sure as shit went a long way toward that end, didn't ya, Nan? The way you interviewed that woman -- was finding the child your goal? :sarcasm:

"That's not how ethical journalists conduct themselves." Hear, hear, Heidi.

[Heidi]

14. Her demeanor made the interview about Nancy Grace.

That's her style, I guess, but it's p!ss-poor journalism, and it does a disservice to an institution that I love. If Grace wants to interrogate, she should become a cop and leave journalism to people who practice it responsibly for far less pay and glamour than she does.

:yourock: bertha! :hug:

[bertha katzenengel]

15. Damn right! I just finished reading the transcript. Grace kept saying

over and over "won't you help us find . . ." -- but absolutely nothing in her questioning of the parents showed that she was interested in helping find the child. She was clearly interested in forcing one of the parents - obviously she focused on the mother - to admit they'd killed the child.

I have one thing to say about CNN news: It's crap.

:hug: been missing you.

[Heidi]

17. I maintain that it's not Nancy Grace's job to find the child.

That's the job of law enforcement. If, indeed, Melinda Duckett was involved in her child's disappearance, Nancy Grace's behavior may ultimately have done more harm than good for the investigation. If she's going to masquerade as a journalist, her job is to report as many facts as possible, from as many perspectives as possible. Like you, I saw no indication that Grace was interested in anything beyond demonstrating what an aggressive interrogator she is.

Been missing you (and Ginger's look-alike, Petey, too), gf. :loveya:

[idgiehkt]

25. I bet the cops wanna kill her now.

Grace helped make their job twice as hard.

[zonkers]

8. I heard she got a raise.

[CBGLuthier]

18. Are you kidding ??

I mean that is great publicity. You can not buy PR like that.

They will put it on billboards and in magazines.

Change her name to Nancy "killer" Grace.

[elperromagico]

23. Unfortunately, you're right.

People will tune in just to see what insane thing she does next.

[Puglover]

19. The last thing

I would do if I had something similar to this going on in my life is put myself in a position to be grilled and humiliated by Nancy Fucking Grace for public consummtion. I just don't understand why people do that. Money?

[johnnie]

21. I just can't believe that CNN ran the piece.

Well, yes I can, but it was fucking disgusting. Of course Nancy Grace didn't cause the suicide of this woman, but to actually run the thing after the fact should be considered a crime against integrity.

I caught a part of it while channel surfing and the little I watched was so void of any real journalism. It's embarrassing watching shit like that. The idea that these networks are so slimy just to get ratings is almost laughable. Watching and listening to nancy Grace interrogate that woman like that was nauseating. I just can't believe they ran the story.

[elperromagico]

22. To be fair, she didn't force Melinda Duckett to kill herself.

She didn't help, either, but I'm sure she doesn't feel that's her job.

Nancy Grace fancies herself the National Prosecutor, operating on "hunches" rather than facts. If she has a "hunch" that you're guilty, God help you, because you must be guilty. If facts contradict her view, those facts must be wrong; why would her "hunch" lie to her?

She's still at it, claiming that Duckett killed herself because of "guilt." http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2448050&page=1

The concept of "innocent until proven guilty" is completely alien to Nancy Grace. In her world, it's "innocent until my hunch says you're guilty."

[Rabrrrrrr]

26. Suicide is a choice. Always.

No one can "force" another person to commit suicide.

The guilt for the suicide lies solely on the person who committed it.

Unless Nancy Grace was holding a gun to her head telling her to kill herself or else Nancy would murder her, Nancy has no guilt in this.

[Crazy Dave]

27. They've run laboratory tests using mice

Forcing them to watch Nancy Grace and every time the mice try to kill themselves or kill eachother rather than watch an entire show.

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[Patiod]

29. She should be fired for being abrasive and annoying

Her nasty, angry face makes me cringe when I see it in an airport or public place that shows CNN. What an atrocious human being.

I HATE when she talks to defense lawyers - "how can you defend a MURDERER???!!!" or "How can you defend a RAPIST??!!!" I always want them to say "because, Stupid, that's how our system works. And I hope if anyone ever accuses YOU of anything, that you can find a lawyer to defend YOU."

[Oeditpus Rex]

30. This is the first time I've seen the interview in question

If one of my reporters had conducted such an interview when I was a newspaper editor, I would've fired them. No question.

[mvd]

31. Haven't heard about any firing

But I think she should be. Melinda Duckett was obviously unstable, and some of Grace's questions should have been saved for any trial. And then after Duckett's death, Grace blamed it on guilt! Heartless.

[Maestro]

34. Exactly

Her grandstanding and acting like judge and jury when it was in fact an interview just makes me think she thinks she is more than she really is. And if it turns out that Duckett had nothing to do with this, I hope she carries that guilt for the rest of her life.

[6000eliot]

32. These stupid fucking TV anchors should stay the fuck out of the stories

and just report the news. Television has taken us places that Paddy Chayefsky could dream of in his worst nightmare.

[L A Woman]

35. I sort of agree but what would you suggest?

Wouldn't websites like this one be forced to shut down if no one could publicly speculate about any case? Wouldn't it be better if we just had smarter, more informed citizens? I can sit and listen to Nancy Grace - it doesn't stop my brain from working. If I were seated on the jury of a case I heard her discussing, my decision would hardly be influenced by her or any other tv host.

Please. She's the Queen of Infotainment. You want news, try NPR or C-Span. Let's leave her alone and work on our education system.

[Scout1071]

33. I'm no fan of Nancy Grace, but she didn't kill that woman.

She was horrible, as she is to most guests, but she didn't force that woman to kill herself.

Don't get me wrong, I hope they fire Nancy Grace and get her shrill ass off the air, but I'm not sure if it has to be for this incident.

[stanwyck]

37. Without standards, people like Grace or O'Reilly

don't get fired. No matter what happens. O'Reilly makes egregious errors constantly, without repercussions. His audience doesn't realize how many errors he makes. When TV had standards, O'Reilly would have been toast. The whole "falafel" incident would have been enough.
And Grace would never be on the air.
She's a carnival show oddity.
And she's on CNN? Unbelievable.
These days, the people with decency and standards are on....The Comedy Channel.
Bizarre.

[Redstone]

38. Well, let's ALL ask Ms Grace (politely!) via e-mail how she

feels about herself these days.

Redstone