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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:12 AM
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Question for the Vegans
Hey, it is a friend of mines birthday, she is a vegan, and I was going to get her this really nice wool sweater because we live in Minnesota where Winter is the best 8 months of the year. Now I know that leather is not cool, but what is the stance on wool. I know it is an animal by-product but the sheep aren't killed for it. Help me out so I don't offend her please.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:14 AM
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1. Not cool.
http://www.veganviews.org.uk/vv77/vv77wool.html

It's definitely not cruelty-free.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:15 AM
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2. Wool would be non-vegan
It's good of you to check. My baby sister gave me a wool pea coat a few years back.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:16 AM
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3. I think Vegans are concerned with what they eat.
Now, some Vegans can also be animal rights activists, I guess. However, I believe the key question is whether or not the animal suffers. Are sheep mistreated; do they suffer when the wool is shaved off of them and used to make clothing for humans?

I have no idea.

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:18 AM
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5. Nah, being vegan is a lifestyle thing and ethical system
A person who consumes no animal products but has no issues with leather, wool, etc would be a strict vegetarian.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:21 AM
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8. Thanks for the info, LM.
Makes sense. :)
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 03:23 AM
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26. Sheep get cut to hell when they're sheared
They live outside where there are all sorts of bugs, they get beat up and so on...and then they're sheared by a person who spends all of two and a half minutes cutting off all their wool. Not to mention the fact they aren't sheared during the summer.

It's not THE worst thing you can do to an animal, but it's not exactly a gentle caress either.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:17 AM
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4. that's a really interesting question
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:19 AM
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6. why i could never. ever be a vegan:
i'm a knitter...
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:20 AM
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7. Dude, knitting is so gay.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:22 AM
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9. no, you are!
that's it! no knitted pasties for YOU! or the hot knitted cotton bikini either! x(
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:23 AM
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10. Wait, are you knitting pasties for you to wear for me?
Or are the pasties for me to wear?
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:27 AM
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11. How the fuck did my innocent little thread
turn into this? Good show everyone!
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:29 AM
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14. Because you can never trust bi_baby and I to not find something dirty
into something innocent.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:36 AM
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15. Pretty much sums it up!
:rofl: You got it!

and our phone convos are so innocent! Weird, that.... :crazy:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 AM
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16. Yeah on the phone we're sitting around, drinking and talking about
our leopard geckos.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:39 AM
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18. true 'dat...we're so lame
we'll have to work on that :evilgrin:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:54 AM
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22. Totally.
:evilgrin:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:27 AM
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12. whichever you prefer, my darling
:evilgrin:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:28 AM
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13. Okay...
we both get pasties.

:evilgrin:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:38 AM
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17. Yay!!!
Just tell me what color you want, and I promise, vegan safe :D

and with that, I'm off to bed...I have to get up in about 6 hours from now for skool...and, i have to go cuddle the boy....He's sleeping so sweetly....awwwww :)

BUT, we have to talk soon!!!! maybe Saturday? The day before I go see the Pats kick the asses of the Broncos? :D

:*
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:53 AM
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21. G'nite.
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:54 AM by haruka3_2000
Surprise me with the color.

We should definitely get in some phone time this weekend.
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:40 AM
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19. You're a great friend, mduffy.
Vegans dont do wool--but if you can find a nice, heavy cotton sweater, that'd sure be nice. It's SO great when people find vegan alternatives for necessary stuff. Shopping isn't always fun when it comes to traditionally non-vegan items.

I'd LOVE a gift of a vegan sweater, purse, belt, wallet, portfolio...well, I guess you get the idea.

If you decide that you want to look online for ideas, please ask! There are lots of sites that specialize in vegan clothing and accessories.

:hi:
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:45 AM
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20. That is what she says
Of course she tells me that I am just doing it to get into her pants....well of course I am but I still want her to be warm. Okay maybe not so much but it is funny
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:58 AM
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23. Well
I certainly can't speak to your (cough) intentions--but it's still nice that you've bothered to pay attention. Big points there.

Even 15 years after I went veg, I still received leather goods as gifts (and then had to figure out what to do with them!)

Good luck!
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:04 AM
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24. Nah we already took a run at that
she is just way to amazing a person to let go out of my life, and who knows maybe someday she will come around....
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 01:16 AM
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25. I'm not a vegan
but I don't use wool. I found out about how they ship the sheep with no food and water and it just tore me up and I gave away all my wool and haven't gotten any new stuff. If I get something wool for Christmas I just give it to goodwill or something.
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