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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 01:35 PM
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Question for all you LOTR lovers out there.
I friend just asked me what Elrond meant when he was talking to Arwen in the 2nd book and movie about "the breaking of the World"
I have my own ideas, but I would like more imput before I answer her.
Thanks
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Babette Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 01:44 PM
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1. From what I remember from the Silmarillion...
The ancient homeland of the immortal elves was on a far western shore. The Numenoreans lived on an isle within sight of it, but were forbidden from landing there. As they grew more arrogant they decided that the elves should not be the only immortals. They sent an army out to invade the Undying Lands. The wrath of the Valar "broke" the world- removing the Undying Lands to a place no human could reach. Men could sail in search of it and just go in a big circle. The breaking of the world also destroyed Numenor and changed much of Middle Earth.
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bedtimeforbonzo Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 01:56 PM
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2. That's it in a nutshell
if I remember correctly.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 02:30 PM
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3. there's the other breaking of the world
Back in the early creation myth. When Morgoth toppled the lamps, and/or Ungoliant poisoned the trees. The resulting wars between the demigods completely altered middle earth.

The elves were around then, at least Galadriel and I believe Elrond.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:43 PM
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4. Hey, Happy New Year!
I consulted the Encyclopedia of Arda about "the breaking of the World". No direct entry appeared; besides, the answers provided here are quite correct.

However, Arda's Interactive Calendar reveals that the Gregorian calendar's December 22nd corresponds to 2 Yule--"the first day of the year, according to the Shire Calendar and the calendars of the Dúnedain".

www.glyphweb.com/arda/dates.html

Another pint & a bowlful of the best pipeweed whilst we peruse the treasures available at this wondrous website.

(Proud to be a nerd!)
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