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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:14 AM
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Most misogynistic song you've ever heard?
The movie thread made me think of this topic. There seem to be some more blatant options in the world of music; I'll just name a few off of the top of my head. Of course, it's probably good to account for the release date of the song when judging how misogynistic it comes across. Also, I would make a distinction between songs that are just "dirty" (maybe 'cause there are so many of them) and ones that are more blatantly misogynistic, but that is definitely a subjective judgment. Here are a few that might qualify:

"If You Wanna be Happy" by Jimmy Soul

"Run for Your Life" by the Beatles (I've often seen this one mentioned so I'll include it, though it's probably too tongue-in-cheek to really qualify)

"I'd Rather be a Man" and "You Lie Down with Dogs" by the Alan Parsons Project (however, these are part of a concept album discussing relationship-related topics with one side coming from a man's perspective and the other coming from a woman's; whoever wrote these had to have been coming out of a really bad relationship, though, judging by the harshness of the lyrics)

"When You're in Love with a Beautiful Woman" by Dr. Hook (alright, I'm not totally serious about this one, but it is essentially saying you can't trust a good-looking woman; kind of a soft-rock take on "If You Wanna be Happy"!)

"Under My Thumb" by the Rolling Stones (yeah, I'm sure it's tongue-in-cheek, but if you don't consider that it's some pretty harsh stuff; they've also got "Stupid Girl" which I personally find more funny than misogynistic, and more than a few other borderlines)

"Dirty Little Girl", "All the Girls Love Alice", "Sweet Painted Lady" by Elton John (Bernie was obviously pissed at someone when he wrote the lyrics for the Goodbye Yellow Brick Road album!)

I've seen stuff like The Knack's "My Sharona" and "Good Girls Don't" make lists of misogynistic songs, but I consider these more suggestive than misogynistic. If they were played by a "cock-rock" and not a "power-pop" band, no one would think twice. I mean, the Raspberries had sex on the brain in most of their songs, but I don't usually hear them called misogynists ("All Through the Night" may come pretty close, though!). Again, I guess that's why these lists are so subjective.

Then, of course, there's "Cherry Pie" by Warrant, another "dirty" one that caused some controversy. And, from the same era, "It's So Easy" by Guns 'n Roses

I'm not even going to attempt to try rap/hip-hop. I'm not into the genre much, and I'm sure I would have trouble distingushing between the "ironic" and the blatantly misogynistic. Someone who knows more about the genre can point some out, though, as I'm sure there are plenty of candidates.

Anyway, those are a few possibilities; add any y'all think qualify.


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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:01 AM
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1. "Used to Love Her (But I Had to Kill Her) Guns 'n Roses.
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 06:01 AM by MrsGrumpy
:hi:
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:51 AM
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3. Good one
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 07:06 AM by last_texas_dem
Guns 'n Roses have several that would fit into the category, although, in their defense, a lot of this seemed to go along with the posturing of late-eighties hard-rock bands. (The original album cover of Appetite for Destruction probably offends worse than any of their songs!)

:hi:


******

On an unrelated note, I would add the Guess Who's live version of "American Woman", from the Paramount album to the list. That one gets pretty explicit for a song of its era.
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:36 AM
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5. Come on, that song is hilarious!
I'm really down on misogyny, but I interpret that song to be tongue in cheek.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:57 AM
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6. Yeah, I think a number of these are like that
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 08:58 AM by last_texas_dem
I wasn't sure about including several of them I included in the initial post because I figured many of them to be tongue-in-cheek and not demonstrating their performers to be truly misognyist. But I guess if you consider that "Sweet Home Alabama" by Lynyrd Skynyrd has become a racist anthem to many when it's really not about that at all, a song can be considered misogynist if it's open to that interpretation. I wasn't really trying to condemn all these songs as being misognyistic (I like most of them, actually, and I'm not a misogynist) in making the post, I just like discussing controversial (or at least semi-controversial) music-related issues!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:22 PM
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44. That's not true at all.
Interpretation, if it's completely incorrect, cannot make anything something that it's not. Someone's stupidity in analysis should not condemn a work of art.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:39 PM
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51. Well
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 02:59 PM by last_texas_dem
I think we're coming from pretty much the same place on this. My post above ended up pretty convoluted, even with an edit. What I was trying to say was that I decided to include songs in my initial post that I can't say for sure whether the composer intended for them to send a misogynistic message (only the composer themself can really say for sure, and I've never heard the composers comment about most of the songs I included) but either leave a strong impression of such or have been commonly interpreted as such. My point in mentioning the songs was to discuss them; not to condemn them. I agree that misinterpretation cannot change the intent of the maker of a piece of art, but art containing elements that make it open to this sort of misinterpretation can be interesting to try to figure out what point is being made.

ON EDIT: I think the main problem with my above post (why I said it was convoluted) is the way I used the word "considered" in the second sentence. Re-reading it in a way that was not my intent when writing it, it sounds like I'm saying "considered" in the sense of "We will consider this to be settled fact" when what I meant was "We will discuss and consider this argument on its merits." Yeah, I know I should've just made this clear the first time around, but clarity isn't always the strongest suit of my (attempts at) communication!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:52 AM
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74. I didn't condemn it...anywhere...
I was a huge Guns 'n Roses fan in the late 80's and I stand by my so called "analysis" :hi:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:29 AM
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12. Come on...I'm not suggesting we ban it or anything...I'm just
saying that it's misogynistic...but no, I don't really think Axl killed and buried somebody...or would. :hi:
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:00 PM
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105. You never know!
He might have :evilgrin:
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:51 AM
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25. I don't find it to be misogynist
I've felt that way about ex boyfriends before.

Anyways, didn't Axl say he wrote it about his dog?
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:05 PM
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106. It's about his dog. n/t
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:05 AM
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2. girls
beastie boys

'nuff said
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:19 AM
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19. That's totally tongue-in-cheek
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:30 PM
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49. I laugh at that song
It's so silly, I can't take it seriously.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:16 PM
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86. Girls
to do the dishes

Girls

to clean up my room

Girls

to do the laundry

Girls

and then the bathroom!
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:28 AM
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4. "Cinderella" by Firefall
Girl gets herself pregnant and ruins a man's life.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:03 AM
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7. That's an interesting one
Its lyrics do send a pretty misogynistic message. It definitely has a different tone than their biggest hits; two of my favorite mushy soft-rockers, "You Are the Woman" and "Just Remember I Love You."
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:12 AM
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8. I always thought "Under My Thumb" was about a D/s or S&M relationship.
But I've been wrong before. :shrug:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:14 AM
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9. "Whip it good", devo
"... show those evil sluts what's what."
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:41 PM
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38. I have never heard that lyric.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:44 PM
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71. I don't see it online
I remember being so red-faced on listening to that album with my SO of
that time, really shocked that the lyrics contained such crap, i tossed
it and never respected devo since.

Now it seems i'm red-faced for even remembering that lyric... i
can't find it online, hmmm... I'm glad they erased it, it was wrong
given the group's popularity.

Apologies to DEVO for remembering their indescretions.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:46 AM
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82. That's from Through Being Cool ...
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 10:47 AM by meegbear
and the lyric is "Time to show those evil spuds whats what"

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/devo/through+being+cool_20039680.html
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 04:59 PM
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104. I was wondering what track
Thanks, i wasn't able to check it, and the ryme scheme of whipit was not it.

And some where i last heard it was in the film heavy metal,

spuds sounded a lot like sluts. Gosh, i din't read the dust jacket, and all
this time, i could have worn a flower pot! :-)

Sorry DEVO, my bad.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:16 AM
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10. don't remember the name
but what's that one by Eminem about killing his wife and hating his mom?
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:28 AM
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11. I think
he has one (that actually got a significant amount of airplay) fitting that description called "Cleanin' Out my Closet." But actually, he probably has a dozen or more songs with that same theme, from reviews I've seen of some of his albums! I really just know him for a few of his singles; I don't like him very much.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:31 AM
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13. yep
I think that is the one I had in mind...but you're right, he's got a few of those...
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:36 AM
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22. '97 Bonnie & Clyde
Tori Amos does a really haunting cover of it on her "Strange Little Girls" album.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:45 AM
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24. Nice catch!
Tori's version is frankly amazing. That's a fine album, too.
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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:19 PM
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110. Was it "Kim"?
I felt like puking when "Hard out Here for a Pimp" won the Oscar. I snarled at the TV, "It's even harder for the women they exploit, asshole!"
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:34 AM
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14. "Backstreet Girl" by the Stones. nt
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:51 PM
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98. The thing about that song...
...is that, while the lyrics are as offensive as you can imagine, the gentle, hesitiant melody (which sounds almost like an old English folk ballad) completely contradicts it in tone -- I always get the feeling that the character doesn't really mean the words he's saying, even if he can't bring himself to admit it.

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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:34 AM
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15. Bitch School by Spinal Tap

But, of course, it was written to satirize the often thinly veiled misogyny so common in 'heavy metal' lyrics.

You been bad
Don't do what I say.
You don't listen.
And you never obey.
Try to teach you.
But you just won't be good.
You won't behave the way
A big girl should.
It's time to give the whip a crack.
I'm gonna have to send you back to
Bitch School.
Bitch School.
You're a beauty.
You're the best of your breed.
You're a handful.
And I know what you need.
You need training.
Gonna bring you to heel.
I'm gonna break you with my will of steel.
Discipline's my middle name.
And no one comes back the same from
Bitch School.
Bitch School.
No more sniffling strangers, or running free at night.
You think my bark's bad, honey - wait till you feel my bite.
You got problems.
You whine and you beg.
When I'm busy,
You wanna dance with my leg.
I'm gonna chain you.
Make you sleep out of doors.
You're so fetching when you're down on all fours.
And when you hear your master,
You will come a little faster, thanks to
Bitch School.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:17 PM
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87. "That's beautiful. What's it called"
"Lick my Love Pump"
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:34 AM
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16. "Shiver & Shake" by the Cure n/t
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:40 AM
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17. "All Women Are Bad" by the Cramps
But, once again, the tongue in cheek thing.....

I also have to confess...I love the song.

:spank:
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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 09:44 AM
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18. Whats the song .."Stranglehold"?... Nugent
"I got you in stranglehold baby
I'm going to smash your face"

or something like that. What a puke.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 04:35 PM
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103. That's pretty bad
Musically, that's one of the most interesting Nugent songs I know (although I don't know very many...), but those lyrics are nasty.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:28 AM
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20. "Yankee Lady" by Jesse Winchester
"I lived with the decent folks
In the hills of old Vermont
Where what you do all day
Depends on what you want
And I took up with a woman there
Though I was still a kid
And I smile like the sun
To think of all the loving that we did
She rose each morning and went off to work
And she kept me with her pay
I was making sweet love all night
And playing this old guitar all day
And I got apple cider and homemade bread
That would make a man kneel down he would say grace
And clean linens on our bed
And a warm feet fire place
(Refrain)
Yankee lady so good to me
Yankee lady just a memory
Yankee lady so good to me
Your memories gonna have to do for me

An autumn walk on a old country road
With a million flaming trees
I was feeling a little uneasy
Cause there was winter chill in the breeze
And she said, "Oh Jesse, look over there,
I see birds are they are all southward bound
Oh Jesse, I'm so afraid
We are going to lose the love that we've found
(Refrain)


I don't know what called to me
But I know that I plain had to go
I left that little old Vermont town
To live down in sunny Mexico
And now when I can see myself
As a stranger by my birth
The Yankee lady's old memory
To Remind me of my worth
(Refrain)


So let's get this straight: She works all day to support both of them AND does a superb job of housekeeping and cooking, while he sits around all day playing his guitar. Then all of a sudden, he just up and leaves her, but, hey, give him a break, he's really, really, really nostalgic about her. :puke:
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:33 AM
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21. "My humps"
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 10:33 AM by El Fuego
Also takes the prize for the worst pop song ever. :puke:

It sets women back hundreds of years. It sets western civilization back 100,000 years.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:39 AM
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23. Yeah, but...
...I'm still wondering just how DID she get all that ass up in those jeans? haha

You're right, though; that one is pretty bad. I think its main protection from attacks of misogyny is based simply on the fact that a woman is singing lead on it.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:00 PM
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26. But it's written by a man.
A woman ain't nothing but humps and lumps.

:puke:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:30 PM
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28. We could do a much better job of pretending they're not there. n/t
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:29 PM
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35. But you can't ...
So you're at our mercy. :evilgrin:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:19 PM
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88. then maybe it isn't so misogynistic...
if it reminds us how we are at your mercy...
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:07 PM
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27. 'Having my Baby'
a complete barf fest disguised as a song. :puke:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:50 PM
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53. I was DJing when that came out. 40 requests a night, all
adolescent girls.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:51 PM
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97. that one is ALWAYS a crowd pleaser
when i do it at karaoke.

i dedicate it to all the ladies out there.

funny, i stopped doing karaoke when i stopped drinking heavily.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:54 PM
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29. A Lap Dance is So Much Better When the Stripper is Crying
By Bloodhound gang, althought the song itself is a parody of country music.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:20 PM
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89. I looked at the milk carton, and guess who's picture I saw on it
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:07 PM
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107. LOVE that.
It's such a parody.
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BluePatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:02 PM
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30. "Stupid Girl" by Cold
OMG this song annoys the hell out of me on the radio.

Wanna love ya
Wanna bug ya
Wanna squeeze ya
Stupid girl

Wanna touch ya,
Wanna take ya,
Wanna shut ya,
Stupid girl.

*ad nauseaum*
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:04 PM
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31. I may need help with this one.
I don't even know if a song can be misogynistic. It seems further removed to me than a book or a movie, from the author's point of view that is...so hard to define. Most song don't offend me if they have this viewpoint, they're only three minutes long and I just turn them off. Some of Eminem's stuff seemed to indicate that he is a misogynist...I don't know if that's changed or not. Of course he put out that movie that kind of explains where his resentments come from, but I don't think all women should be painted with that broad brush.

Anyway, the only song that came to mind is "Bodies" by the Sex Pistols. If anyone wants to weigh in on it I'd love to hear other opinions. I just think the song is so dismissive of the woman and her circumstance and point of view that it's a little disturbing. It would make a great pro-life theme if those folks were into punk. I love the Sex Pistols otherwise and if there is some irony I'm missing here someone please clue me in.

"She was a girl from birmingham
She just had an abortion
She was a case of insanity
Her name was pauline she lived in a tree
She was a no one who killed her baby
She sent her letters from the country
She was an animal she was a bloody disgrase

Body Im not an animal
Body Im not an animal

Dragged on a table in factory
Illegitimate place to be
In a packet in a lavatory
Die little baby screaming fucking bloody mess
Its not an animal its an abortion

Body Im not animal
Mummy Im not an abortion

Throbbing squirm, gurgling bloody mess
Im not an discharge, Im not a loss in
Protein, Im not a throbbing squirm

Fuck this and fuck that fuck it all and
Fuck the fucking brat
She dont wanna baby that looks like that
I dont wanna baby that looks like that
Body Im not an animal
Body Im not an abortion"
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:08 PM
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33. It's the winner of the gross-out contest.
Don't think there is much more to it than that.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:40 PM
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37. but that's a point of view being expressed.
he's telling it from the point of view of the fetus and really demonizing the mother and not taking into account her circumstance. I think this was deliberate, and in some respect I think he (whomever the author of the lyrics is) makes some valid points about how the fetus might be viewed by some, but that's no reason to totally discount and dehumanize the adult female in this situation.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:06 PM
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32. That having-my-baby song from the 1970s.
The lyrics include something like what a wonderful way to say I love you or something.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:17 PM
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34. "Polly" by Nirvana, though they claimed it was satirical
I'll go with their convoluted defense of "Rape Me" as a commentary on the Bosnian-Croatian war (Chris Novislec is part Serbian, I believe, which is where the song came from), but "Polly"'s matter-of-factness towards the antogonists' brutalizing the girl of the title is pretty disturbing.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:24 PM
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45. Polly wasn't satirical - it was based on a real-life occurrance.
They played it several times at concerts benefitting rape victims.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:49 PM
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52. They never claimed it was satirical. It's based on a real rape.
From wikipedia:

According to Michael Azerrad's 1993 Nirvana biography Come As You Are, "Polly" is based on the true story of a female rape victim from Tacoma, Washington. The girl, 14, was abducted in 1987 while returning from a punk rock show, and was raped and tortured by her abductor. Cobain's only narrative flourish is that the victim manages to escape by flirting with her captor, convincing him to let her go.

In the liner notes to Nirvana's 1992 compilation Incesticide, Cobain expressed disdain for an incident which occurred after the song's release on Nevermind. "Last year, a girl was raped by two wastes of sperm and eggs while they sang the lyrics to our song 'Polly,'" he wrote. "I have a hard time carrying on knowing there are plankton like that in our audience."


Hardly misogynist. And the poster above is correct, Nirvana did perform the song at rape victim benefits.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 12:59 PM
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83. OK, clarification: SONG isn't misogynist, but the characters IN it are
The message isn't meant as misogyny, but the "characters" who are spouting the lyrics are misogynists. And by "satirical," I meant that the song was a satire of how rapists might think. (Hence the gruesome pun on the girl's name and the situation she's in.)

I read the liner notes for Insecticide as well, and they were furious--basically, they said "If you hate women or homosexuals we don't want you as fans." Bravo, Kurt.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:30 PM
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36. Oh yah, Black Betty, uh huh
Racist and Misogynistic

But at the same time, a great tune
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:21 PM
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43. It was most likely written by an African-American.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:41 PM
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39. "Every Breath You Take"
I was in a waiting room today and watched as 2 ca. 5-year-olds played. The 3-year-old brother of the girl was FREAKING OUT that he could NOT control his sister. He demanded that she STOP playing hide-n-seek and sit next to HIM. She ignored him and he SCREAMED his head off as his mother entreated him to join in the game. It was bizarre...
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:43 AM
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81. That I Don't Get
I think that song could be sung both by men or women, about the gender of one's preference and it would be equally creepy.
The Professor
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:03 PM
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84. Yes, of course you're right
what I left out was that while watching the kids the tune was doing the earworm thing... It REALLY IS a creepy song, eh?
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:43 PM
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40. big tymers--get your roll on
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 01:44 PM by Phx_Dem
oooohhhhh, what, what, what
Ooooohhhhh, yeah st

Verse 1 (Manny Fresh)
I..fuck..these...hoes
Af-ter...our shows
Big dicks... we slang
Freak bitch... do ya thang (do yo thang)
Benz...".vettes"....hummers....jets
Ro-Lex...Mo-settes
Television.....head rest
Twenty inches....nothin less
Every-day..... iced..... out
Nigga play....lights out
M...period fresh...hammer
Yo wife is my......baby mama
God.......damn mother-fucker
She's uh....good dick sucker
What...the....fuck
Hold on.....everybody (Scribbles)
Get yo' roll on

(Chorus)4x
Everybody get yo roll on
Everybody get cha motherfuckin roll on
What
Verse 2 (Baby)
Beat answers...bitch please
You....know....who I.....be
Nothin else.....none other
The...number one...stunna
Nigga...I pimp hoes
Fuck....toss....flip hoes
Show them....bitches no...love
Ridin 2g lacs on......dubs
Ounces....quarters....halves...bricks
Nigga i done sold all that shit
soon as....my tour stop
Bought five Bentley Zoras.....props
TV's must...buttons must....
CMB...platinum plus
What the.....fuck...hold on
(Scribbles)
Everybody get yo' motherfuckin roll on

(Chorus)

Verse 3 (Manny and Baby together)
I...like...loud pipes
Big..rims....mo ice
V-twelves...or better
No...it's....strictly leather
Playstation....DVD's
Don't worry about yo bitch
She comin wit' me
Leavin stickers on the Bentley
To show the price
Arm out the windows
Just to floss my ice
Fresh....wait hold up
Thats that bitch....we fucked
Nigga.....what yo bank bout
Dog i've been....lost count
Pop that Kriss.....pop that moe
Slap that bitch.....punch that hoe
What the fuck....hold on
Everybody get yo motherfuckin roll on

(Chorus)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:58 PM
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41. "I KNOW you want to leave me...
...but I refuse to let you go...."

Oh?
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:18 PM
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65. Ain't Too Proud To Beg? How is that misogynist?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:45 AM
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73. Sounds like a stalker to me.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:22 AM
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75. I disagree, but even so - couldn't the stalker be either gender?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:40 AM
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76. The song is performed by a man.
Though yes, just looking at the lyrics, it could be either one.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:20 PM
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42. "Treat Her Like a Lady"
Sorry, can't remember the "artist."
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:25 PM
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46. Oh yeah, that one is pretty messed-up
"Treat her like a lady/ She'll give in to you" That's Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose. What's funny is their other big hit is the mushy love song, "Too Late to Turn Back Now." Maybe they just matured during the few months between the release of the two singles. haha
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:31 PM
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50. "Strange as it may seem...
you can't treat a woman mean." :wtf:
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:25 PM
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47. Anything by Motely crew?
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:29 PM
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48. "Wives & Lovers," "Lightning Strikes"
By Jack Jones and Lou Christie, respectively. They both make my skin crawl.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:54 PM
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54. "American Woman"
I don't know if it's the most misogynistic song I've ever heard but it it's in the running. I just never took a liking to that song.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:25 PM
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60. it seems the problem is that she's American, not that she's female.
really fucked up...yes, it's women that run this country, after all...
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:03 PM
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55. "Ho" (offensive content warning)
Highlight to view






Hooooooooo (Ho)

Youza Hoooooo (Ho)

Youza Hoooooo (Ho)

I said that youza hooooo (Ho)







You doin ho activities

With ho tendencies

Hos are your friends, hoes are your enemies

With ho energy to do whacha do

Blew whacha blew

Screw whacha screw

Yall professional like DJ Clue, pullin on my coat tail

an why do you think you take a ho to a hotel?

Hotel everybody, even the mayor

Reach up in tha sky for tha hozone laya

Come on playa once a ho always

And hos never close they open like hallways

An heres a ho cake for you whole ho crew

an everybody wants some cuz hoes gotta eat too









Cant turn a ho into a housewife

Hos dont act right

It's hos on a mission, an it's hoes on a crackpipe

Hey ho how ya doin, where ya been?

Prolly doin ho stuff cuz there you ho again

It's a ho wide world, that we livin in

feline, feminine, fantastical, women

Not all, just some

You ho who you are

It's hoes in tha room, It's hoes in tha car

It's hoes on stage, It's hoes by tha bar

hos by near, an hos by far

Ho! (But can i getta ride?!)

NO! (Cmon, nigga why?!)

Cuz youza









You gotta run in your pantyhos

Even your daddy knows

that you suckin down chocolate like daddy-o's

You hos are horrible, horrendous

On taxes ya'll writin off hos as dependents

I see tha ho risin

it aint surprisin

its just a hoasis

with ugly chicks faces

but hos dont feel so sad and blue

cuz most of us niggaz is hos too







(Ho)

Muthafuckas im so tiired of yall niggaz always talkin

bout hos this, hos that, you tha muthafuckin ho nigga

I wasnt no ho last night



(Pimp)

Ho, bring yo ass!



(Ho)

Ok, hold on


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Mr. Blonde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 02:26 PM
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100. I always took this as pretty tongue in cheek
And of course at the end he says men are just as bad.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:12 PM
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56. AMG - "Bitch Betta Have My Money"
look it up yoursef. the lyrics sites are all blocked here at my work.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:19 PM
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57. "Only Women Bleed?"
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:26 PM
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61. I think that one's
actually a sort of oddly feminist song, upon close examination of the lyrics. But it's definitely one that could be interpreted as such (the fact that Alice Cooper was singing it probably encouraged this idea) and I think it got into some controversy over the question of what AC's intention was upon its release.

Here are the lyrics:

Man's got his woman to take his seed
He's got the power - oh
She's got the need
She spends her life through pleasing up her man
She feeds him dinner or anything she can

She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

Man makes your hair gray
He's your life's mistake
All you're really lookin' for is an even break
He lies right at you
You know you hate this game
He slaps you once in a while and you live and love in pain

She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

Black eyes all of the time
Don't spend a dime
Clean up this grime
And you there down on your knees begging me please come
Watch me bleed

Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:57 PM
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66. You're right; on re-reading the lyrics, I guess it's an indictment of men.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:24 PM
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58. Geto Boys' "Gangster of love"
the lyrics are to explicit to post.


for those interested:
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/g/geto+boys/gangster+of+love_20059825.html

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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:05 PM
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67. roflmao
'tis like an x-rated nursery rhyme...

"To take off my shirt
And pull down my britches
If shes got big titties
I squeeze em and holdem
While she suck my d*ck and lick my scrotum..."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

there was a time when this gangsta rap had some bite but now it's just comical, I think after people like Lil Kim started rebutting this stuff it became ridiculous and laughable. I don't feel insulted by it, I just feel embarassed for the singer, but I am impressed by the imperfect rhyme of 'hold 'em' and 'scrotum' which is one I wouldn't have thought of...

Not Tonight -- Little Kim

"The moral of the story is this
If you aint lickin' this,
you aint stickin' this
And I got witnesses, ask any n***** I been with
They aint hit sh*t till they stuck they tongue in this..."

and so on and so forth.

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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:24 PM
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59. You can't beat "Strangulation" by FEAR
Gonna strangle me a bitch
Gonna leave her in a ditch
Gonna have a few fits
I'm gonna chop off her tits
She's gonna put up a fight
Gonna scream all night
I'm gonna jam her with my axe
I'm gonna cause a few facts
Gonna mess with her head
Gonna tie her to the bed
Strangulation
Mutilation
Humiliation
Gonna knock on her door
Gonna through her on the floor
Gonna try to keep it shut
She ain't nothin' but a slut
Gonna jam it in her face
Gonna knock it outta place
I'm gonna stick it up her ass
I'm gonna throw her in the trash
I'm gonna mess with her head
I'm gonna tie her to the bed
Strangulation
Mutilation
Humiliation
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:52 AM
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78. I think we have a "winner"
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:53 PM
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62. Pretty much anything by 2Live Crew
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cedahlia Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:10 PM
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63. "Stranglehold" by Ted Nugent immediately comes to mind...
also "Smack My Bitch Up" by The Prodigy

and probably anything by those pieces of shit Insane Clown Posse

I know there's a hell of a lot I'm forgetting...I'll have to come back later after giving it some more thought!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:16 PM
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64. How Can I Miss You When You Won't Go Away?
Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:07 PM
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68. Fun Fun Fun by the Beach Boys.
It's all about a woman who is independent and strong, and because of that the other girls hate her. But after her father takes away her power and puts her back in her place, she's eligible to be enjoyed by a suitor--because girls who step outside gender norms are unlovable.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:41 PM
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70. I hated "little surfer girl" by them, or whatever it was.
they give me the heebie jeebies

:puke:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:22 PM
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91. I never looked at that song that way
Its sorta like,

"Hey, you got grounded cause you were abusing your car privileges (it happens to guys too), but I still have a car. Let's go!"
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 07:40 PM
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69. Most A.C. and Mentors songs
"I Got An Office Job For The Sole Purpose Of Sexually Harassing Women"
"Woman, Nature's Punching Bag"
"I Convinced You To Beat Your Wife On A Daily Basis"
"All Women Are Insane"
"Woman From Sodom"

Those are the ones I can print on here.

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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:46 PM
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72. Song for the Dumped by Ben Folds Five
Give me my money back, you bitch.

Those lyrics just ooze love . . .
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:23 PM
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92. hey, that's real emotion
I wish I hadn't
bought you dinner
right before you
dumped me on your front porch


Give me my money back,
Give me my money back,
Give me my money back, you bitch.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 08:46 AM
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77. "Smack My Bitch Up"
Prodigy
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 05:09 PM
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108. Technically that's S&M..
but if you're not into that scene I guess it qualifies.
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:57 AM
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79. Does "I wanna be a homosexual" count?
(Screeching Weasels)
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tsakshaug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:19 AM
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80. not as violent as the above but
If you can't be with the one you love
love the one you're with
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:46 PM
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95. yeah, CSNY hated women...
LOL.

Songs like that could be singing to men or women.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:14 PM
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85. Gangsta Misogyny


http://www.albany.edu/scj/jcjpc/vol8is2/armstrong.html

GANGSTA MISOGYNY: A CONTENT ANALYSIS OF THE PORTRAYALS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IN RAP MUSIC, 1987-1993*

Journal of Criminal Justice and Popular Culture, 8(2) (2001) 96-126

excerpt:
Too $hort (1993a) hurled this tirade:

You fuck with us, bitch, something gettin' broken
Your leg, arm, jaw, nose, pick a part.

In N.W.A's (1989a) "A Bitch Iz A Bitch," money-hungry or stuck-up women are subsumed under the same solution: "Slam her ass in a ditch." Too $hort slaps women who act "shitty" (1988b) or bold (1992b). Responses to mental slowness are equally harsh. Bushwick Bill (1992c) kicks a woman's ass if her "brain don't click." By choosing the wrong friends, "bitches" either "need stitches" (Willie D 1992b) or get drop-kicked (Ice-T 1993). Personal characteristics also induce violence. In "Punk Bitch," Too $hort (1990b) expresses his desire to slap all bald-headed women. Ice-T (1991b) pushes a woman to the floor because "she looked like Godzilla." Because a woman had "more crabs than a sea-food platter," Eazy-E (1988e) "slapped the ho" and proudly proclaimed himself a "woman-beater." The Geto Boys (1993d) handed down comparable excesses when they threw an "unsanitary bitch" into a ditch.




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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 02:02 PM
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99. I always felt there was a homosexual undercurrent to it.
I don't know why...it just seems to be protesting way too much...all that 'girls are icky' stuff just kind of makes me wonder, plus that exaggerated male bond that defies explanation: "You fuck with us bitch, something gettin' broken..."
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 02:28 PM
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101. well you have powerless people trying to act powerful
and the only ones who have less power than them are the women. Pretty brutal outlook on life.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:22 PM
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90. Pretty much anything by the god-forsaken Eagles.
:grr: :nuke:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:24 PM
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93. "If You Wanna Be Happy" is an AWESOME song
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 01:25 PM by ComerPerro
I love it.

"Hey man"

"Yeah"

"I saw your wife the other day"

"Yeah?"

"Yeah, she is uggggllyyyyyyy"

"Yeah, she's ugly but she sure can cook"
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:46 PM
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94. "In the Summertime", Jerry Mungo
One line sticks out that I have always hated:

"If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal
If her daddy's poor, just do what you feel"


Not sure if its misogynistic or just classist
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 01:50 PM
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96. "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks"
by snoop and dre.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 02:46 PM
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102. Jewish Princess
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 02:46 PM by VancSouthpaw
by Frank Zappa. Guess he got in a bit of trouble for that one..


Edited to fix title i screwed up. :)
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bluedogyellowdog Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:21 PM
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109. "Devil Woman" by Cliff Richard
That's what comes to mind right away. But it's not the worst. Does anyone remember the Mentors?
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