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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:37 PM
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Will reason win out in the end?
And even if it does, are we going to continue devolving before we hit the downward curve of diminishing returns?
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:39 PM
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1. In the end yes...
But who the fuck knows when that will be? :shrug:
Duckie
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:45 PM
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3. 'S what I'm afraid of
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 08:46 PM by Taverner
Poor Hypatia was burned in Alexandria, after a period of reason...
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:40 PM
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2. No. And yes.
Simple answers. Big question is what happens after.

Redstone
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:46 PM
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4. Well if reason is our dictum
Then we would have all the resources needed to solve the human condition
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:02 PM
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5. We should indeed, but first we have to get through the other assholes''
greed, politicking, self-interest, blind determinism, Republicanism, and general dick-headedness.

If it were just US, we would fix things. But there's always THEM to deal with, more's the pity,

Redstone
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:08 PM
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6. why would it, it never has before
reason is not natural to animals, even human animals, and since few are capable of it, we're inevitably out numbered

this is why democracies are always temporary and fragile but there have been monarchies and despots for 10,000 years

sorry we do the best we can but in the end the only winner is the 2nd law of thermodynamics
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:50 PM
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9. What if society, from the beginning, were structured differently?
Say an educatocracy, where we are innundated with education from infancy all of our lives?
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:13 PM
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7. No.
Reason has never won in history except in very brief windows, and even then it wasn't really winning - more like an occasional touchdown by the losing team in a blowout game.

I see no evidence reason will ever win, though it doesn't mean I won't do my part in the fight.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:29 PM
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8. chaos always wins out in the end
but then again, every ending is a new beginning...or something.
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belladonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:52 PM
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10. I used to think it might
Now it seems as though every day we fall deeper and deeper into the abyss :(
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:53 PM
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11. Death will win in the end.
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:14 PM
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12. If you listen to what Devo's all about, devolution will hit rock
bottom before we start to bounce back. :( I have no idea when that will be, but the world has bounced back from dark times before. I just hope it's soon.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:23 PM
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13. Never totally.
History is littered with periods of "good" followed by periods of "bad", followed by periods of "good" and so forth.

Reason is no perfect answer, because it fails to incorporate completely the human condition...I've never found anything approximating to a complete incorporation of humanity, until that happens (which I suspect will be never) we'll have to muddle through with better and worse patches as time passes.
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