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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:46 PM
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want to get the DISH but the building owner says no
I called them and was told that people started messing things up on the roof so the stopped it for everyone. Can I put it in a window (regular one)? It points South, but I'm not sure if it can be done safely. Has anyone done this?
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:48 PM
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1. I've seen lots of apartments with dishes.
I think you can get away with it as long as it's not physically attached to the building and doesn't interfere with any one elses views or space.
I always see them on tri-pods sitting on peoples balconies (balcony's???)
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:49 PM
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2. call 'n ask
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 06:50 PM by rozf
my ex had his on the railing of his balcony patio. It was attached with a vise-like device - did no permanent damage 'n could B easily moved to the next location.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:52 PM
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3. no balcony
just windows. I wish I had one.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:56 PM
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5. You might try this.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:00 PM
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7. thanks
bookmarked
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:55 PM
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4. Ask the dish people about going through windows.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 06:56 PM by Tripper11
I'm sure they'll have an answer. I've seen dishes in some pretty intersting and precarious positions.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:58 PM
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6. good point
and if it falls on someone's head :) I'll blame those guys. They're brand new windows and I was warned even about air conditioners, believe it or not. There's one built in though.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:01 PM
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8. They say it should receive through glass windows
I might suggest getting the "oversized" diameter dish for extra gain since the glass will cause some loss.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:04 PM
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9. thanks
unless I'm sure it will work, I will not get it though. As much as I hate cable..
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:06 PM
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10. Your landlord might want to read over the FCC rules again
As directed by Congress in Section 207 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996, the Federal Communications Commission adopted the Over-the-Air Reception Devices Rule concerning governmental and nongovernmental restrictions on viewers' ability to receive video programming signals from direct broadcast satellites ("DBS"), multichannel multipoint distribution (wireless cable) providers ("MMDS"), and television broadcast stations ("TVBS").

The rule is cited as 47 C.F.R. Section 1.4000 and has been in effect since October 14, 1996. It prohibits restrictions that impair the installation, maintenance or use of antennas used to receive video programming. The rule applies to video antennas including direct-to- home satellite dishes that are less than one meter (39.37") in diameter (or of any size in Alaska), TV antennas, and wireless cable antennas. The rule prohibits most restrictions that: (1) unreasonably delay or prevent installation, maintenance or use; (2) unreasonably increase the cost of installation, maintenance or use; or (3) preclude reception of an acceptable quality signal.

Effective January 22, 1999, the Commission amended the rule so that it also applies to rental property where the renter has an exclusive use area, such as a balcony or patio.

On October 25, 2000, the Commission further amended the rule so that it applies to customer-end antennas that receive and transmit fixed wireless signals. This amendment became effective on May 25, 2001.

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:15 PM
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11. damn, I still need a balcony though
--snip--
Q: If I live in a condominium or an apartment building, does this rule apply to me?

A: The rule applies to antenna users who live in a multiple dwelling unit building, such as a condominium or apartment building, if the antenna user has an exclusive use area in which to install the antenna. "Exclusive use" means an area of the property that only you, and persons you permit, may enter and use to the exclusion of other residents. For example, your condominium or apartment may include a balcony, terrace, deck or patio that only you can use, and the rule applies to these areas. The rule does not apply to common areas, such as the roof, the hallways, the walkways or the exterior walls of a condominium or apartment building. Restrictions on antennas installed in these common areas are not covered by the Commission's rule. For example, the rule would not apply to prohibit restrictions that prevent drilling through the exterior wall of a condominium or rental unit.

Q: Does the rule apply to condominiums or apartment buildings if the antenna is installed so that it hangs over or protrudes beyond the balcony railing or patio wall?

A: No. The rule does not prohibit restrictions on antennas installed beyond the balcony or patio of a condominium or apartment unit if such installation is in, on, or over a common area. An antenna that extends out beyond the balcony or patio is usually considered to be in a common area that is not within the scope of the rule. Therefore, the rule does not apply to a condominium or rental apartment unit unless the antenna is installed wholly within the exclusive use area, such as the balcony or patio.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:22 PM
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12. You should be okay to use the dish through a window, however...
One more hint to think about as well, certain types of glass can cause signal degradation or block the signal altogether. You could get around this by leaving the window open and putting a piece of nicely cut plexiglass in the opening.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:36 PM
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14. I have regular glass, nothing special and will look into it
Not sure if I want to leave the window open though :think:; too much work
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:31 PM
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Lots of DISH packages
come with free, professional installation. If you call them, they'll ask you some questions about your location & with a free installation, someone will come out to install. If they can't get a good line of sight, they'll tell you it can't happen.

I hope it works for you. I went to DISH about 5 years ago, when the local cable company moved to cut back on C-SPAN, and I've been very happy with it ever since. Without WorldLink & UCTV & Free Speech, I wouldn't know how to get along............
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 07:31 PM
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13. Lots of DISH packages
come with free, professional installation. If you call them, they'll ask you some questions about your location & with a free installation, someone will come out to install. If they can't get a good line of sight, they'll tell you it can't happen.

I hope it works for you. I went to DISH about 5 years ago, when the local cable company moved to cut back on C-SPAN, and I've been very happy with it ever since. Without WorldLink & UCTV & Free Speech, I wouldn't know how to get along............
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