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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:06 AM
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"liberals are piss poor excuses for americans"
i'm quoting the administrator of the hot rod board i frequent,when he locked the thread about ayn rand and john galt.i don't care about him locking the thread,it has no place there,after all,it's for hot rodders to talk about cars.i like fixing up old cars,hell,we're the original recyclers. i don't want to talk about politics there though,that's why i come to DU,and if he wants he can visit freeperville for all i care.i have to admit,my signature has a link to www.bringthemhomenow.com and i update the tally of our dead and wounded.i have said that i think rush limbaugh is a big fat idiot,but only when someone else mentions him first.i sent him an email telling him that i was a liberal,and asking him to explain to me why iam a "piss poor excuse for an american" we'll see soon enough if i'm banned.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:09 AM
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1. you are SO banned. Don't worry about it. HotRodders have
lots of RW idiots, I know several.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:27 AM
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2. I know some folks in the hot rodding community.

I've never really talked politics with any of them, and that was a conscious decision. I figure, as a progressive, it's probably not a good idea to talk politics with anyone who romanticizes the ultra-conservative 1950s as some golden age of American history.

Fortunately, I have an intense passion for '50s rock 'n' roll, so finding non-political stuff to discuss with those folks is never a problem!
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:28 AM
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3. You are the patriot, they are the nazis who can only lock step
with the dictator.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:32 AM
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4. Kiss it goodbye
If you can stomach it, the freepers were gushing about Bush's recent audience granted to the NASCAR top 10 drivers. http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1032695/posts General mindset I guess. In fact, one of the freeps plans to rip off his/her bumper sticker showing support of a favorite driver because the driver is a "demoRat".

We can thank Bush and the neocons for dividing this society so deeply that every aspect of our lives seems to revolve around one's political view and the 'with us or against us' meme.
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anti_shrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:14 AM
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13. What's funny
Is either Dale Jr. or one of his crew made a comment less than celebratory about our Fearless Leader (I remember thinking he's going to get crucified for saying it) but it went without comment.

His stepmom might be a friend of the Bushies, but Dale Jr. doesn't seem to be. Then again, all his stepmom did was get Jebbie to make sure that Dale Sr's autopsy photos didn't get splashed around the net so I don't know how friendly that makes them.

Guess the freeps think anyone who visits the White house from 2001 to 2004 is a pubbie.

I love the sub-topic of that thread that since Jeff Gordon's car has a rainbow paint scheme that means he's gay, and that means he's not a *real* Nascar driver.

Freeps can't discuss ANYTHING for 5 seconds without sexism/racism/homophobia leaking in.
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:42 AM
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5. Most of us are.
As are most conservatives, libertarians, greens, and whatever else you want to throw in there. There are always exceptions, of course, and I know some people right here on DU represent beautiful, inspiring, shining examples of those exceptions. But in the mass, precious few of the nearly three hundred millions of us live up to the ideals of the Revolution, or merit the blood that was spilled for us at Bunker Hill and Gettysburg. I know I don't.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:43 AM
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6. Define "americans" then that might be a true statement :)
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:48 AM
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7. I thought that was an ann coulter quote
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:11 AM
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8. liberals are piss-poor excuses for republicans
that's all that really means.

Remember, you're either with them or you're against them.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:40 AM
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9. RePublican Delusion/ Fantasy Vs Demcratic Logic, Reason, Sanity and the
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 02:41 AM by opihimoimoi
Common Good

Its a No brainer but then we do have quite a few Morans.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:43 AM
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10. I got chased out of "FordMuscle.com" for much the same thing.
Screw 'em!

Someone should start a gearhead site for Progressives--I'm sick of being the only vocal Liberal on the sites which support my admittely stereotypically-redneck hobbies (woodworking, 4x4ing, muscle cars)...
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:03 AM
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11. it's crazy out there
it's not like there aren't ANY other liberals out there.it's a "traditional" rod and custom board,so we have guys from canada,NZ,australia,japan,germany,spain,france,switzerland,sweden,norway,england and ireland,probably a few others i've forgotten.they know what's going on in this country,a few of them have mentioned it.i doubt i'll be banned,but i'll probably get an email spouting a bunch of right wing drivel about what a "traitor" i am.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:06 AM
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12. facists are poor excuses for americans
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:15 AM
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14. Shut your mouth and wave your flag
You'll probably be banned. That's how these people think.
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Brian_Expat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:40 AM
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15. Next time. . .
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 03:41 AM by Brian_Expat
Next time someone condemns you for your politics, tell him that liberal Democrats like you made hot rods and customizable cars built! Unions worked hard to make production lines efficient, and cars high quality.

Many of the great designers of the era were Democrats.

Lee Iacocca, who gave the world the Mustang and helped save Chrysler from oblivion (so it could rise again to provide the world with the Hemi crate engine -- the most awesome engine in a box you can buy) was a liberal Democrat and is still doing innovative things today in retirement (including digital battery-assisted bikes). He gives large amounts of time and effort to big charities. And don't forget the woody cruisers and retro-style production rods that Chrysler has cranked out since -- the PT, the V-10, the Omni GLH and last (and LEAST!) the woody K-car wagon! ;-)

If you want to add "insult" to "injury," you might want to inform him that Ford's present chief accounting officer called out of retirement to help save Ford is gay and a Democrat. Make sure he knows that if you took away the "liberals" from the Hot Rod and custom scene, he'd be buzzing around in a modified AMC Metropolitan with a 2.0 litre four. :-)
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:06 AM
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16. Let's not start dissin' AMC here!
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 04:07 AM by CanuckAmok
My family had tons of AMC cars during my childhood. They are much maligned, but they were way cool at the time. We had two Gremlins (one was the X with the Levi Strauss interior!), an AMX Javelin, a Matador, a Concord, and an Eagle 4x4 wagon. My fist car was a $600 government surplus Concord wagon (in "American Racing Green") which ran for years with over 300,000 Kms on the (broken) odometer.

I wish we still had the Javelin!

Edit: spelling.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 08:47 AM
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18. My first car was a luxury model 1979 Pacer!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 08:43 AM
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17. They shut you down for a literary quote?
"rush limbaugh is a big fat idiot"

How can they ban you if he instigated the mess?

Hang in there, guy. If it gets too bad, start a periodic sub-thread in the Meeting Room. Tell Underground Railroad to post about it in her Monday Lounge thread.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:46 AM
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19. Hot-rodders are nothing...You ought to see what Ham Radio is like...
At least your average motor-head doesn't go around all the time "preparing for the BIGGUN"...Some of these radio guys are frustrated cops/emt/first-responders. Either couldn't make the physical or the PSYCH standards, so they get their radio, their EMCOM certificate, and Voila! a "Radio FIRST RESPONDER"!

Rush Limbaugh is their god and Morse Code is a commie plot to keep them off the airwaves...

I have been a Ham for over 35 years. I don't get on the air anymore because:
A.Tuning across the state-side bands is like listening to a Mike Savage/Weiner-Art Bell audition.

B. I'm embarrassed to talk to foreign Hams.

I'm glad a lot of cyclists are still liberal.
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