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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:27 PM
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Damn it, Bert Blyleven was robbed again
One more year that he is not in the Baseball Hall of Fame!

:grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:28 PM
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1. Every time I hear Bert Blyleven's name...
do I think of baseball? Twins? Minnesota? No.

I think of Larry Blyden.

I can't help it.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:32 PM
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2. Hey did you get that pardon form yet?
You can get a print out of it from my blog. Just click on the second to top post and just follow my blogs directions and you'll be fine.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:48 PM
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15. I am printing it off tonight!
Thanks!
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 12:09 AM
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17. Oh no, Thank you!
It's people like you that give this effort of ours legs.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:33 PM
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3. If you don't make it on the first ballot
your chances drop like...





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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:35 PM
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6. That's not really true
because the BBWA guys are dumb, they like to "not vote people in on the first ballot" but reserve judgement until later. Blyleven, for instance, had been steadily increasing his vote totals until this year.

Gossage, as another example, got over 71% of the vote this year, which is by far the highest he's ever gotten--he'll probably get in next year since it's not a big year for retirees.
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gemdem Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:46 PM
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14. Gossage, Blyleven, and so far as I'm concerned,
Davey Concepcion all should be in the HOF. Davey was Ozzie Smith before Ozzie was Ozzie Smith (just without the back flip). Concepcion showed all shortstops that followed how to make plays on that damned AstroTurf. Plenty of Gold Gloves, better offensive stats than most of the SS in the HOF (including Smith), and just a touch below Ozzie on defense. Davey's just getting dinged because he was on the same team as Bench, Rose, Morgan, and Perez -- and all of those guys believe that he should be in. Screw the writers -- except for local good guy Hal McCoy, another HOFer (writer's wing) with ties to the Reds.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:56 PM
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16. You can always find examples
of players whose numbers go up. Usually they're the ones who should've gotten in on the first ballot, but some joker with a personal agenda screwed the pooch (and then invariably wrote a column to brag about it). For years after that, other writers will campaign for the player to rectify the injustice.

But I stand by what I said earlier. In the majority of cases, if a player doesn't make it in his first year of eligibility, he tends to get forgotten.

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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 01:04 AM
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18. Well, regardless of who is right in this case
I guess that's what the veterans' committee is for.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:33 PM
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4. And Goose Gossage too
stupid baseball writers
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:39 PM
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8. Stupid baseball writers is right!
:eyes:
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:33 PM
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5. How close did he get?
I heard that McGwire was not close.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:36 PM
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7. This year 47.7%
dropped from 53.3% last year.

His only "sin" was he played most of his career in flyover land.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:41 PM
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9. Yeah if he'd a played in New Yoik or Cahleeforneeea
Edited on Tue Jan-09-07 11:47 PM by bushwentawol
he'd a been in already.

Oops my bad. He did play for the Angels. But his best years were behind him by then.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 01:04 AM
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19. You mean like Goose Gossage
or Don Mattingly?

If anything, there's an anti-NY bias theseadays.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:41 PM
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10. son of a ....
that makes me so darned mad :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad:


I don't know who Bert Blyleven is, but if it's got your nuking, then I am just really pissed!!!


:hi: :nuke:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:43 PM
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12. Here
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:42 PM
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11. Bert "be home" Blyleven?
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 11:45 PM
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13. Yes!
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