The guy that plays George O'Malley on Grey's Anatomy

[kay1864]

Really really REALLY deserves an Emmy. Or a Screen Actor's Guild award. T.R. Knight is IMHO the best actor on the show. He makes the most minute facial expressions showing his character's underlying emotions, and is quite amazing to watch.

To date he's received only nominations for "Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series" (Screen Actor's Guild), and no Emmy nominations.

Patrick effing Dempsey gets a Golden Globe nomination. Ellen effing Pompeo gets a Golden Globe nomination. Katherine Heigl gets a Golden Globe nomination. Out of the three, you could argue that Heigl deserved one. But Knight gets nothing?

Ah well the Golden Globes are a joke anyway.

Last year, Sandra Oh and Chandra Wilson were Emmy-nominated (lost to Blythe Danner); no male nominees. Sandra Oh was nominated (and won) a SAG award last year; Patrick effing Dempsey was nominated and lost to Jack Bauer.

This season, however, Knight has really shone. If he doesn't get an Emmy or SAG nomination, it will be surprising.

[Midlodemocrat]

1. I completely agree. I love George.

He's such a 'real' person. (as real as someone on the tube can be, obviously)

[Hosnon]

2. I agree. He really does a good job of taking you along with him.

I really felt for the character last episode.

Edit: I can't speak to the other performances...

[RevolutionaryActs]

3. I completely agree with you. I love George!

He's my favorite character on Grey's. T.R. Knight is precious. hehehe

[Shakespeare]

4. Another George fan here; something you might want to consider, however....

The Globe nomination process was completed before George started his really impressive run this season--in fact, I believe the nominations cover LAST year's shows. So, I'm not offended in the least (and the Globes aren't really a joke, not sure why you think so).

Now, if he's ignored NEXT year, then I'll be offended.

[kay1864]

5. The Globes are a joke because of the sponsoring organization

The Hollywood Foreign Press Association (HFPA), comprised of foreign journalists who work in the film industry. However, to be a member, you must publish one (1) article PER YEAR. This qualifies you as a "journalist". It's basically an in-group of wannabe journalists.

According to the New York Times, the HFPA

functions like an exclusive club, admitting a maximum of five new members a year, though more often...accepting only one. Any single member may object to a new member, making it extremely difficult to join. The association does not represent internationally renowned publications like Le Monde or The Times of London -- indeed, it has repeatedly rejected applications from a Le Monde correspondent, while accepting applications from freelance writers from Bangladesh and South Korea

The HFPA was bribed in 1982 to give a Golden Globe to Pia Zadora, which was a huge embarrassment at the time. Since then, they've gotten smarter, but still, the nominations don't come from peers (as with the Oscars) or from respected organizations like the Director's Guild or NY or LA Film Critics Associations.

Like I said, they're smarter nowadays, and they pick more mainstream. But really, they're no more qualified to give awards then me and a group of my movie-loving friends. They also tend to go towards popular choices rather than those with merit. Case in point: For Grey's Anatomy, Patrick effing Dempsey has received ONLY Golden Globe nominations and Teen Choice nominations.

[Shakespeare]

6. Um, I live in Hollywood and work "in the industry."

I'm quite aware of who the HFPA is. They're not as prestigious as the Oscars (but are, in fact, considered a good barometer for who the Oscar winners will be), but they are hardly a joke. You want to talk "joke" awards, then let's hash out the ridiculous "People's Choice" awards.

And it sounds like your issue is more with Dempsey than it is with the HFPA....

Edited to add (and repeat, since you didn't address it): Do you honestly think McKnight should have been nominated for LAST year's shows? I don't. I think he's a marvelous actor, but didn't really come into his own on GA until this season.

[kay1864]

8. You might be aware, but other DUers may not be

As for being a barometer for the Oscars, so what? My film buddies and I are a barometer too. We just don't have dinners where Oscar hopefuls have to suck up to mediocre journalists. Doesn't change the fact that the HFPA itself is a joke, and hence their awards are too.

And no, I'm just using Dempsey as an example. He's an OK actor. The fact that he's received only GG and Teen Choice nominations speaks volumes.

Agree that Knight shone more this season than last.

Show-business insiders already know the story laid out in "The Golden Globes: Hollywood's Dirty Little Secret," which debuts on the Trio cable channel Sunday night, four days before the Golden Globe nominations are announced.

But casual viewers of the annual awards show might be surprised to learn that a relatively small group of foreign journalists hand out the Golden Globes and that many are only part-time entertainment reporters for obscure print or online outlets.

"It's an emperor-has-no clothes story," said Vikram Jayanti, the documentary's director-narrator. "We all think it's like an august organization with hundreds of really reputable film journalists and critics."

In reality, the group behind the Golden Globes, the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, has about 90 members, and many have reputations more as star-struck fans and moochers than serious reporters, the documentary says.

Interviewed for the documentary, L.A. Weekly film critic John Powers said the group's members are "essentially just bottom-feeders around the industry, who've somehow been inflated to this point where their judgment is supposed to be very, very important."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/12/goldenglobes.ap/

Also: http://www.moviecitynews.com/columnists/poland/2003/021219.html

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/01/14/Floridian/A_cynic_s_guide_to_th.shtml

[Shakespeare]

10. Here's the difference: Industry press uses the Globes as a barometer.

They do not use you and your buddies as a barometer.

The reason I ask about your feelings about Dempsy is the way you refer to him; "Patrick Effing Dempsey" indicates that you're not particularly fond of him.

And if you want to get into a real discussion of Hollywood awards shows, I'd rank their integrity this way:

1. The craft awards (SAG, DGA, WGA. etc.)

1.5 The Spirit Awards

2. The Academy Awards

3. The Golden Globes

As part of the whole awards season here, I take them the least seriously, but I do not consider that a joke. Is that too fine a point for you, or would you like to throw some more (pointless) links at me?

[kay1864]

11. No need to be nasty about it

The press certainly didn't use them as a barometer in 1982, now did they? They were a complete laughingstock. The GG's were off the air for 14 years after CBS yanked them. No real changes since then--the underlying group is STILL as qualified (or unqualified) as me and my film buddies. Only difference is, now they have flashy dinners and a flashy award show. Surely you would agree that the HFPA itself is a joke.

If you'll look at my OP, I also said "Ellen effing Pompeo"--nothing against Dempsey in particular. Both are average actors. Neither deserves a nomination for that show.

I would agree with the order of your rankings, except the GG's (relative to the Oscars) are about a 6.

And what makes those links "pointless"?

[Shakespeare]

13. They've come a long way since 1982, but if you want to make that an absolute...

...that applies from now until forever, be my guest. They made serious strides after that to conduct their nomination process with more integrity, and it shows. As I said, I don't find them the greatest of awards shows, but neither do I consider them a joke. And they've ALWAYS had the flashy dinner and flashy awards shows (honestly, the GGs are the most fun to watch, because everybody ends up trashed before they even start giving out awards, which can make for some very interesting stage appearances).

I find the links pointless, because I could toss out just as many that take issue with any of the awards shows. There's a certain amount of backlash that they all endure, and sometimes with good reason. But that still doesn't make any of them a "joke."

[kay1864]

15. As I said originally...

they've gotten smarter since then (they didn't have much choice, now did they?). Still doesn't change the nature of the underlying organization, or their members. One article a YEAR? What a joke.

Yes please, do post links that put the HFPA in the same light as the AMPAS, the SAG, the NYFCC, or the LAFCA. I'd be interested in reading them.

[Flaxbee]

7. I'm Grey's Anatomy deprived these days b/c of Sinclair

-- holding my cable company hostage for huge rate increases. So they've pulled ABC, which means I don't get GA or even more tragically, Boston Legal. :cry:

I agree, though - Knight, when I got to see him on TV - was very good. Patrick Dempsey annoys me, as does Ellen Pompeo peering out from under these long stupid limp bangs and hangy hair. Hate it.

[kay1864]

9. I think you can see both of those shows on ABC.com

They keep the most recent 1 or 2 episodes. :hi:

[Flaxbee]

12. I know they definitely have GA, but I'm unsure about BL -

need to check, though.

thanks :hi:

[Flaxbee]

14. bastards! They have GA, but not BL!

why not?!?!??! noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[kay1864]

16. Gee that sucks

Maybe it's because Shatner's ego won't fit on their webpage :rofl: