Who's cooler--Bogart or Mitchum?

[Arkham House]

Poll question: Who's cooler--Bogart or Mitchum?

I just saw *Out of the Past* again--and *nobody* is cooler than Mitchum. Wearing a trenchcoat, he makes Bogie look like the pampered upper-class sissie he really was...just sayin'...

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. Mitchum.

[LostinVA]

2. Definitely -- way cooler

[Starbucks Anarchist]

5. From "Out of the Past":

- "Oh, Jeff, I don't want to die."
- "Neither do I, baby, but if I have to, I'm gonna die last. "

:smoke:

[SteppingRazor]

3. Other: Steve McQueen could kick the shit out of either of them n/t

[barb162]

4. Mitchum could kick the shit out of McQueen by just looking at him

[SteppingRazor]

6. I cannot describe to you just how unbelievably wrong you are

:evilgrin:

[barb162]

14. And Mitchum could do it with just one eye :)

[SteppingRazor]

17. In response, I offer only this:

Face it: It doesn't get any cooler than flashing a peace sign for your mugshot.

[NYCGirl]

24. Here's Mitch at his booking for marijuana posession:

[enigmatic]

38. Oh what a great picture

:thumbsup:

[mitchum]

40. That one's on my wall

probably not much of a surprise...

[NYCGirl]

45. I have this one hanging near the front door of my apartment:

It's the last thing one sees when walking out the door.

And I have a self-portrait sketch Mitchum drew for a charity auction in my living room. It's incredible.

[mitchum]

49. Y'know, you'll have to remove that if...

Dorothy Mitchum ever comes to visit :)

I have a nice autographed head shot, but nothing as cool as your self-portrait sketch. Very cool indeed.

[NYCGirl]

50. Yeah, she got a little angry about that, didn't she?

:hi:

[Bridget Burke]

7. Bogie was fine, but ...

[Arkansas Granny]

8. Absolutely!

[YankeyMCC]

9. Two words

Sam Spade

"When you're slapped, you'll take it and like it."

Bogart wasn't just cool he was cool with style and not in the fancy-dandy way Roger Moore was.

Steve McQueen came close.

[azmouse]

11. Bogart was amazing in Casablanca too!

Cool. :thumbsup:

[YankeyMCC]

13. "Yes, you're right, Ugarte. I am a little more impressed with you."

Absolutely

[Taverner]

10. Mitchum. He unapologetically toked. n/t

[BikeWriter]

12. Robb

[Auggie]

15. Too close to call. They tie.

[Left Is Write]

16. I have to go with Robert Mitchum.

[Orsino]

18. Mitchum did Winds Of War...

...so it's Bogie, hands down.

[Arkham House]

19. And Bogie did "The Return of Dr X"...

...so they cancel each other out there...

[Orsino]

44. Bad movies are hardly the issue.

Winds Of War was incredibly limp, and made Mitchum the opposite of cool. And it went on and on, through the length of the miniseries.

[Arkham House]

53. I'll concede that *Winds of War* lasted as long as WWII itself--

--or so it seemed...and that Mitchum's Coolometer Reading somewhat suffered...but after all, we're talking about who was cooler at their *peak*. Mitchum still wins that contest, for me...and how cool was Captain Queeg, for that matter...?

[trof]

20. Bogey. No question. Mitchum was scarey.

Bogey was the ultimate cool in his era.

[Rabrrrrrr]

21. Bogie, all the way. No one can match him.

[Dean Martin]

22. Another one for Bogie

My favorite actor. Starter of the Original Rat Pack the Holmby Hills Rat Pack, of which Frank Sinatra was a member.

Mitchum? Please....

[Oeditpus Rex]

23. Mitchum

Ever heard of a cologne called "Bogart"? :shrug:

[NYCGirl]

25. Mitch, absolutely. Bogie wore a toupee. NT

[NYCGirl]

26. BTW, "Out of the Past" is my FAVORITE movie. NT

[Dean Martin]

27. Mitchum addressed the Repub. Convention in 1992

Politically, Mitchum was a Republican, and his son is a Repub. politician in Santa Barbara. Bogie was an outspoken liberal all his life.

No contest.

[NYCGirl]

28. Mitch wasn't at all political — and Chris is a putz (but Jim is OK).

He was persuaded by his manager Antonio Consentino, a die-hard Republican, to campaign for George Bush in the 1992 presidential election. He also narrated a biographical film of the President for the Republican National Convention, and attended a fund-raiser at Bob Hope's house in Hollywood.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower would never allow any of Mitchum's movies to be played in the White House, due to the actor's convictions for drugs.

Frank Sinatra called Mitch "Mother", and sent him a Mother's Day card every year, in thanks for Mitch's giving him a sure-fire hangover cure.

[Dean Martin]

30. Well I sure agree that McQueen couldn't kick their ass

or Sinatra's either for that matter. Sinatra didn't even back down from a casino owner that pulled a gun on him.

Mitchum probably actually has the edge on really being a tough guy over Bogie, but I like Bogie better as an actor.

[mitchum]

41. Chris is also a really terrible actor

fucking horrible

[enigmatic]

29. Mitchum

No doubt about it.

[hickman]

31. Bogart. No contest.

Mitchum was another John Wayne. Lived and acted his persona. Bogart was an actor and very good at it. The only modern actor that even approached Bogart was Bert Lancaster and he was pretty lazy about it. Too much drama.

[NYCGirl]

32. Have you ever seen "The Sundowners", "Not as a Stranger", "Two for the

Seesaw", "Ryan's Daughter", "The Wonderful Country", "The Friends of Eddie Coyle", "Holiday Affair", "Rachel and the Stranger", "The Red Pony," "The Lusty Men" and dozens of other films where Mitchum did NOT play Mitchum?

[hickman]

33. Seen some not all. When did Mitchum ever play a loser?

Maybe you're right. I'm much more a Spencer Tracy fan. Never liked Mitchum because he always seemed to be playing the strong lead that could beat the crap out of everyone. If you're 4'9", thats great acting. If you're 6'2", ???

[NYCGirl]

34. I'd recommend "Ryan's Daughter" and "Friends of Eddie Coyle"

Although I agree with some critics about "Ryan's" — take a break around mid-film when Mitch is not in it. Mitchum plays a shy Irish teacher who marries a younger woman, and it's a magnificent performance.

In "Friends of Eddie Coyle" Mitchum plays a two-bit loser of a hood, a second-rate Boston gunrunner who tries to play both his mob friends and the Feds and winds up squeezed out.

Tracy is a great actor.

[hickman]

35. I'll try to find Ryan's Daughter.

But I am a Spencer Tracy snob. He was short, plain, and a chameleon. He was doing it before Marlon Brando.

"The kids keep telling me I should try this new "Method Acting" but I'm too old, I'm too tired and I'm too talented to care." Spencer Tracy

"Whenever I'm asked what my definition of a professional is in our business, I tell 'em to go talk to Spence." -- Clark Gable

James Cagney loved him like a brother even though they're political views were polar opposites.

[NYCGirl]

36. My favorite Tracy performances are in "The Last Hurrah", "Bad Day at Black Rock",

"The People Against O'Hara", and of course, "Inherit the Wind." But I also like his light comedy work in "Libeled Lady" and "Without Love." I love about 3/4 of "Woman of the Year" but I hate the ending of that movie.

[mitchum]

37. Mitchum, of course

[mitchum]

39. But William Holden was a better actor than either of them...

both Mitchum and Bogart had little bits of patented "actor business" that they would always fall back on (not that said bits of actor business weren't cool and great), but I defy you to catch Holden "acting"

[enigmatic]

42. Holden in Stalag 17 was Godly

It was his most shitck-like of all his roles but Holden was just so GOOD at that role that it didn't matter. The only one off the top of my head that was like that was Paul Newman in Cool Hand Luke..

[Lautremont]

43. I have to give the edge to Mitchum.

But it's close. Bogie was no slouch. But here are some Mitchum quotes: when he was booked for his big maryjane bust, he told the sergeant his profession was "former actor." Asked about a small mark on his arm, he told the cop it was "an obscene word too small to read." Swarmed by newsmen upon his release from the county farm, he was asked what jail life was like. "It's just like Palm Springs," he told the reporters, "but without the riff-raff."

That's pretty fuckin' cool.

[Mad_Dem_X]

46. Mitchum!

He was way hotter.

[jobycom]

47. Wow, tough choice.

Both were cooler than cool, both were the type of men men wanted to be and women wanted men to be. Mitchum seems more modern, but Bogart has more retro.

I like retro. I'd pick Bogart. But that may only be because I've watched Bogart's "The Big Sleep" more recently than Mitchum's "The Big Sleep."

[Crabby Appleton]

48. Bogey

[Smooth Operator]

52. Bogey by a mile

Try and remember a line from any of Mitchum's movies, not possible. Just in Casablanca alone:

"Here's looking at you, kid."

"Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine."

"Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship."

"If that plane leaves the ground and you're not with him, you'll regret it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday soon; and for the rest of your life."

"I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy mixed up world. Someday you'll understand that."

"We'll always have Paris."

From the Maltese Falcon

Detective Tom Polhaus: "Heavy. What is it?
Sam Spade: The, uh, stuff that dreams are made of.

I hope they don't hang you, precious, by that sweet neck. Yes, angel, I'm gonna send you over. The chances are you'll get off with life. That means if you're a good girl, you'll be out in 20 years. I'll be waiting for you. If they hang you, I'll always remember you.

[WI_DEM]

51. Bogie! Mitchum's cool too.

[CactusJock]

54. Bob Mitchum was the pimpest daddy of them all!

I never understood why Bogie was such a pin-up anyway, he looks like he's half man, half Shar Pei.

also he gave his name to drugs slang - and not good drugs slang either.

[Broken_Hero]

55. Mitchum :) nt