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Taverner
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:17 AM Original message |
Christian DU'ers - How is it like to argue with fundies over the bible? |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. they quote the 2 lines about abomination and gays. |
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Lars39
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. They haul out 'the poor shall always be with us' to excuse their behavior. |
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Taverner
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. To me that would translate as "we'll always have work to do" then |
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Lars39
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Me, too, but they see it more as futility. |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. That's how all the good commentaries see it. nt |
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noonwitch
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. I don't really argue with them, we discuss scripture and different interpretations |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. Most of the fundies I know argue in favor of the Old Testament |
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LaurenG
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. That is so true! |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Not so fast--I just finished a year-long course on the Old Testament |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Since fundie preachers don't necessarily have to take any training and |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. My point was that the fire and brimstone God was a product of the |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Thank you! |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I think you misunderstood what I wrote. |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I've still gotta disagree with it being "a product of the OT" |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. But my point is, you don't see that side of God in the NT. |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Sure ya do. |
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Dukkha
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. so the New Testament with Jesus is basically |
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Bassic
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
64. As a Catholic myself, |
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zanne
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
7. Can't you just make things up? |
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hfojvt
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. they would just ask for a chapter and verse |
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sakabatou
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
8. Here's a whole site of them |
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myrna minx
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. Holy buckets! |
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LibertyLover
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. That was one of the more painful things I've read in a long time |
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Bassic
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
65. Holy crap! |
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azmouse
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
9. I like to stir them up by telling them the Rapture is a lie |
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zanne
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Do tell me about the Millerites. |
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azmouse
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. ??? |
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zanne
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. You mean the Millerites were real? |
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azmouse
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Would I do that to you? |
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Taverner
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Ahhh a Preterist! |
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azmouse
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. I had to look up 'preterist'. |
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Taverner
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Well basically a preterist is one who thinks that all things described in the bible |
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azmouse
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Interesting. |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Actually started by John Nelson Darby |
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azmouse
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I've just always thought it a shame that people |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I find it best not to argue doctrine. Just be kind to people |
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EstimatedProphet
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. My experience is that they usually don't/can't interpret the passages |
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slj0101
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Unless it's one of the prophets, or the book of Revelation. |
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EstimatedProphet
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. Seriously, not to a lot of them |
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Redbear
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. Like, banging your head against a wall |
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youthere
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. This is what it's like... |
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Orsino
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
17. How can you argue with someone who hates gays, loves war... |
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LaurenG
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. It's simple, just get another contradicting verse and lay it on them |
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Arugula Latte
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. Isn't this like Santa Clause believers arguing with Easter Bunny believers? |
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zanne
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. That was beautiful! |
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Arugula Latte
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Thanks! |
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T_i_B
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. I agree more with them on religious matters then you actually |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. Calvinism doesn't deny free will |
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Bill McBlueState
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
53. Have you tried starting a topic like this in R/T? |
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BreweryYardRat
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. Futile. The real idiots won't listen to anything you say. |
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LanternWaste
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
27. every discussion is a bit different... |
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RegimeChange2008
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
28. The very term "Christian Fundamentalist" is usually a misnomer |
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Midlodemocrat
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Agreed. |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Actually, many conservative churches practice weekly communion, |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. Actually, the term "fundamentalist" refers to The Fundamentals: A Testimony of the Truth" |
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bullwinkle428
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
31. Tossing money-changers from temple = "Rambo Jesus" |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. It really looks lie he was trying to free animals being used for sacrifice |
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Taverner
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Wed Jan-31-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I always saw it as justification for vandalism |
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Critters2
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. The OT God is also a socialist communitarian, at least affording to the prophets |
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xchrom
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:36 AM Response to Reply #34 |
63. i think of them as a different religion as well. |
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Dukkha
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. talk to this |
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rug
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
58. It's like that old story about three blind men describing an elephant |
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sasquatch
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
60. It's like argueing with a robot that is programmed for circular logic |
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madrchsod
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
61. i gave up a long time ago |
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regnaD kciN
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Thu Feb-01-07 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
62. Actually, it can be quite a bit of fun... |
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