Bands you hated at first, and now, years later, still hate

[Rabrrrrrr]

I'm not considering flash in the pan bands that lasted for just one to two albums, but the ones that have been (or were) around for at least a decade and have a good, solid output, so that will eliminate a lot of really bad bands, like Poison, that didn't last long enough to really be worth caring about.

First, the easy ones to toss out and condemn: Tiffany, that Tiffany Clone (can't remember her name), N'Sync, etc. etc. etc... and all those top 40 bands. Also Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, J Lo, Brittany, and I can't think of the huge number of other really bad ones. But those are easy, and not even interesting to include.

So here's my real list:

But in terms of real bands, I go with Guns 'N Roses - hated 'em the first time I heard them, and even though I've revisitied their music on occasion, still think they suck.

Also must include Bon Jovi. What a pile of merde that asswipe is. At least Guns 'N Roses attempted to rock, you know, you loser?

Was Dokken around long enough to include on this list? If so, add them.

[Crowdance]

1. ABBA

Yea, I know they're on broadway now and all that. They were vanilla mush.

[Rabrrrrrr]

6. Sadly, I liked them at first

but grew out of it before I went to college. Whew!

Still, for pop dance music, ABBA's one of the better ones, I'll give them that. I'd never buy an album, and I was offended every day I walked past the Wintergarden (where their show is playing), but I'll at least give 'em credit for writing pop with a bit more substance.

[Skittles]

18. I disagree

I know it's hip to hate ABBA but I found their harmonizing to be AMAZING.

[Elidor]

2. Funny, just the thread title made me think of GnR

Even before I opened it up. Slash is a good guitarist. But I hate GnR.

[jonnyblitz]

5. I never could stand them either

ever. :puke:

[mac56]

3. Journey, Foreigner, Styx, Kansas

That about sums it up.

[solinvictus]

11. Foreigner

Foreigner, Foreigner, Foreigner, and 1980's Genesis. Also for runners up: Styx, Phil Collins sappy solo crap, Mike and the Mechanics, and Loverboy.

[solinvictus]

12. Loverboy

On review, they suck enough to deserve their own entry. God, what a bunch of piss poor musicians wearing headbands.

[Rabrrrrrr]

15. Oh God, yes, to both Foreigner and Loverboy!

What crap bands they were.

56. believe it or not

the original Kansas was actually pretty good. They were heavily influenced by Zappa and Crimson. This band never got recorded though. All but 2 of the members left before they got picked up by a label. There was a lot of bitterness and rock soap opera surrounding it for years. I know this because they were from the town I lived in during high school & I got to see them a couple of times. Then the original members were around the area for several years.

[Printer70]

4. No snobs when it comes to music

To each, their own.

[ldoolin]

7. Madonna (n/t)

[Kat45]

8. The Flaming Lips

Heard their music, and thought they really suck. Then I went to a concert, and they turned out to be the opening band. I had to leave the hall because they sucked so bad. They're still around, and they still suck.

[Blue-Jay]

75. I'm with you on that one.

After hearing so much positive buzz about the "Lips", I bought a CD. I don't HATE it, but it was a big, boring disappointment.

[Rabrrrrrr]

9. Oh, and let me add the Beach Boys and the Monkees

forgot about them. Don't want to keep all the spite stuck firmly in the 80s. :-)

[Sandpiper]

10. Aww Come on

Pet Sounds was a great album. But, it was more the creation of just Brian Wilson than it was The Beach Boys as a whole.

As far as hated before and hated still...Elvis Presley

All the guy did was steal the sound of black musicians and give it a white face.

[Rabrrrrrr]

13. Elvis, good choice

though I like his earlier stuff, I really, really, truly, don't understand at all the hoopla and worship of him.

First off, even if I really liked him as a musician, this near-worship of him would still be just as sick and wrong. he was a singer, not the Messiah. But secondly, especially since I'm not a fan of him, I just don't get it, and I really don't think he is anywhere near as important as people like to think he is. maybe important to the garish, belt0buckle sporting country music scene, but in terms of rock, I don't think he's important at all.

[Sandpiper]

25. Chuck Berry

Had a much greater influence on the sound of Rock & Roll than Elvis did. Elvis was chiefly a cultural phenomenon.

[Rabrrrrrr]

28. Very true -

Berry did have a lot more influence.

[FunBobbyMucha]

41. Anyone associated with the song "Kokomo" is suspect.

And that includes you, Bryan Brown!

[ProfessorGAC]

71. I Learned To Loathe The Beach Boys

When i was 8 years old, i liked them a bit. (It was 1964. Not like there was that much other than the Beatles and Stones.)

The older i got, the more i realized how vapid the words were, how rotten the arrangements were, how marginal the playing was (yeah, even the Campbell, Kaye, et al stuff), and how annoying Brian and Mike Love were.

The more time goes on the more i dislike everything they ever did. But, as a young kid, i might have liked them for a while. So, i couldn't name them on this thread. But, i wanted you to know someone shares you sentiment, even if it took me until i was 12 before i figured it out.
The Professor

[Rabrrrrrr]

111. Thanks!

I'd love to see Tony Iomi club them all to death with an SG Custom plugged in and set to ten with sabbath-level distortion spraying blood on N'Stink and whitney Houston.

They really are insipid lyrics, and while their harmony is, in some ways exciting, it gets boring since it's the same on every song and loses - for me - it's effect. Just like in the 70s and 80s when every metal band's drummer felt the need to end their giant solo with a gong hit. It was cool the first time; after that, it deveolved to the point of affectation, like rappers in sunglasses and gold chains.

[sendero]

95. Hey now....

...wait just a second there hoss! The Monkees might be worthy of derision but the Beach Boys created one of the best albums of all time, Pet Sounds. Original, both lyrically and musically, and the Beatles thought it was so good they paid homage with "Back in the USSR". :)

[beawr]

14. Kiss

Toto
Journey
Bon Jovi
Van Halen

Basically, I hated and still hate Hair Bands.

[PVnRT]

30. Another vote for KISS

Boring music, no talent, and predominantly a bunch of assholes.

[Emboldened Chimp]

76. And a third vote for KISS

Easily the worst band every. All show, no talent.

[Skittles]

16. Duran Duran, Bon Jovi

absolutely overhyped, dreadful fluff

[Lostmessage]

17. Rush

:puke:

[populistmom]

20. Yes, like nails on a chalkboard

whiny, disturbing voices

[Lostmessage]

23. The beginning of Rush songs are good

When Geddy Lee starts singing it makes me go :crazy:

[ProfessorGAC]

32. Try Reading The Lyrics!

I like the songs, but boy the lyrics tend to be sophomoric philosophy lessons. Peart may be a great drummer, but his Randian lyrics leave something to be desired.
The Professor

[FunBobbyMucha]

40. Terrible, terrible music and lyrics

1982: Art School in Columbus Ohio. My friend Sheila and I sit in class next to the geek that is hot for her. He has a Rush tee on, hair in his face, complete lack of social grace. He hates me, I hate him right back. The lecturer drones on, and Geek's head cocks when he hears the phrase "...we must subdivide the chromatic values so the design is balanced." He leans towards Sheila with a knowing glance and says, head nodding, "Subdivisions!"

I wish the story ended with my T-square in his head, but alas, I was a pacifist at the time.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

94. So, is that true about Rush being right wing?

I've heard it said, but other than 'Spirit of Radio' I can't remember one damned line.

[Lostmessage]

100. I can't remember one line either

The minute I hear Geddy Lee I turn the channel but the beginning of Rush songs confuse you because they sometimes sound like other bands songs.

[progressiverealist]

107. when you honor the "genius of Ayn Rand"

you're no lefty.

"There are those who feel that they've been dealt a losing hand, The cards were stacked against them....."

I loved Rush way back when, but yes, at least for a time they were (maybe still are) rather conservative.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

109. Oh dear. Ayn Rand. How anyone bought that bullshit is beyond me

[sendero]

97. I was always a huge Prog Rock fan...

... but I never could understand how anyone could listen to Rush. That caterwaul they called vocals, simplistic (for the genre) music and dime-store "thinking-man's" lyrics make me wretch :)

[adriennel]

60. least favorite band

is definately Rush. in high school many friends were into Rush, I gave it a couple tries, but I still can't stand it!!!

[shugah]

19. yes

no, i'm not agreeing (or disagreeing, for that matter). the band - yes. yuck!

[DS1]

21. Starting with the most vile band in the history of the world.

The B-52s. The Violent Femmes. The Thompson Twins.

[mr_hat]

22. Journey, Foreigner, Boston, Kansas, et al. >

Basically all the stadiun-rock dreck that the Ramones and 'Pistols saved us from.

[bif]

37. I hear ya

I hated all that crap too. Except I never got into the Ramones or Sex Pistols. I was into jazz by that time.

[ZenLefty]

24. Let's start off the list with bruce springstein

Followed by u2, then dave matthews, and coldplay right behind that.

The dokkens, gunsnroses, and bonjovis of the world pale in comparison.

[wingnut]

26. Grateful Dead

nuff said

[Emboldened Chimp]

78. No, you can't get away with "nuff said" with The Dead

They're the most successful touring band ever. And there's a reason for that: they were an incredible live band. Thirty years and 2400+ shows are a testament to that. You'll need a bit more of an argument than, "nuff said."

[wingnut]

112. OK, here's my argument

Their music is only annoying, not truly awful, but people take them waaaaaaay too seriously.

They are the John Wayne of bands. Scoff at their talent and the zealots come crawling out of the woodwork.

Kind of like Jesus. I don't have anything against him in particular, but his fans really bug me :)

btw, John Wayne was a fayg.

[tigerbeat]

101. lemme give you a "hallelujah"

cannot STAND the dead. admittedly i was instantly turned off of them by an viral college roommate who **literally** ONLY played the grateful dead on our stereo. i SWORE that if i ever heard "uncle john's band" again i would tear out his hair, rip that freaking teddy bear sticker off of his bunkbed and paste it over his pretentious piehole.

now the pain has subsided and i still think the dead are flatulant, boring noodlers.

may garcia rest in peace however.

[mlawson]

122. I remember the first time I heard them.

We had heard OF them for a long time, but the radio stations where I was then (early 1970s) never played them. So, one of our gang got hold of a Dead LP, I don't remember which one. We were all excited, finally we get to hear the fabled Dead. He lowered the needle on the first track.

----- Okay, try the next one.

----- Next one!! They can't all be that boring!!

----- When are they going to DO something??? We're wasting our HIGH, man!!!

:shrug:

[rucky]

27. Lynard Skynard, The Doors

"I'm so glad I was told to like this"

[Richardo]

29. Blue Oyster Cult

:puke:

With or without cowbell :-)

[kmla]

31. I'm sure I'll get flamed for some of these, but...

Led Zeppelin. Never liked 'em.
REO Speedwagon.
Boston.
Foreigner.
Bad Company.
Lynyrd Skynyrd.
Rush.
Triumph.
And Ted Nugent.

[stanwyck]

74. No flame from me

just complete agreement. Also, not a fan of "America" (though hesitant to say this as Rush will pickup that comment and broadcast that all DUers "hate America".

[DarkSim]

33. i think ABBA.

its the first obnoxious bang i can think of.
Its not just because ABBA is swedish and im finnish that i hate them.

[Loonman]

34. Guided by Voices

Pedestrian crap.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

36. I didn't say it, Random Koolzip, he did it, I SAW HIM DO IT!

;-)

[RandomKoolzip]

58. I avoided this thread cuz I KNEWWW Loonman wouldn't be able

to resist himself!

It's okay. Doesn't uspset me. I am a rock, I am an island. Om. Om. Om....I am a child of the universe no less than the trees. Om...

SERENITY NOW!!!!!!!!

[arwalden]

35. Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Guns n Roses, Blue Oyster Cult,

AC/DC, Poison, Whitesnake, Kiss, Twisted Sister

But oddly enough I LIKE: Foreigner, Journey, Aerosmith, Boston, Styx, Kansas (does that reveal my age?)

-- Allen

[ProfessorGAC]

39. The 1st, 2nd, and 4th Choices! Shame On You, Allen

The first time i heard Sabbath (1970, i was 14) i just thought "WOW!" I loved it immediately. And how could you not like those first two BOC albums. At least you like them now, huh?
The Professor

[arwalden]

42. I Like All Types Of Music... There Are Some SONGS I Dislike

so it's a bit unfair for me to say that I "hate" an entire genre (or a group/singer) simply because I dislike a particular hit of theirs.

-- Allen

[ProfessorGAC]

44. Yeah, But. . .

. . .how could you not think Sabbath was cool immediately?

Just giving you a hard time.
The Professor

[arwalden]

46. I guess I'm still waiting to see if they catch-on

I was never one to jump right in with the latest fashion craze. I want to see if they have any longevity before I rush out and buy one of their albums.

-- Allen

[ProfessorGAC]

48. Good Answer, Allen

Can't argue with that, i think. I've always been one of those that knows immediately if i'm going to like a band or not by hearing the first couple of tunes.

I've been wrong of course. When i first heard "Welcome to the Jungle" i thought GnR was going to be incredibly good. Then i saw them live. Then they released two more albums. Yikes, did i miss the boat on that one.
The Professor

[tinrobot]

38. U2...

Bono is so full of himself...

(puts on asbestos suit)

[jimbo fett]

43. Limp Bizkit and nearly all 80s metal bands like Quiet Riot and Twisted Sis

[Cat Atomic]

73. Christ, Limp Bizkit sucks. So does Linkin Park.

One whiny guy who screams for attention while another guy does a lame rap over the top of it. Everything they do sounds identical, and it all sucks.

[XNASA]

45. My Mother taught me that if you can't say something nice.......

...about someone, don't say anything at all.

But I still can't fight the feeling to announce that I just can't stand Rush. The band that is. Oh, I hate the other Rush too.

And all those Marshall Tucker-type bands too. They can kiss my grits.

[Demonaut]

47. Metallica and Dave Matthews band

they've always sucked....lyrics are lame or unitelligible...

[CreamyGoodness]

49. Alice in Chains

I had a girlfriend once who was really into AIC, so I borrowed a few of their albums to try and see what the fuss was about. I really tried to like it, but it was just awful music. Awful.

[Rabrrrrrr]

50. Oh, and that reminds me: also can't stand Radiohead

ick.

[XNASA]

51. Loves Zappa, but can't stand RH.

Hmmmmmmm......??????

Granted, the styles aren't the same, but RH are big Zappa & Beefheart fans.

[Rabrrrrrr]

53. And I checked out Radiohead because of people on DU

who are also Floyd fans, and heard lots of good things about RH as "like Floyd and <some other band I can't remember> etc." and so I downloaded a whole slew of their music - like an hour's worth or more - and diligently listened to them all, and couldn't tolerate a single one. Then I went back a month or so later, just to be sure the first time I wasn't in the wrong mood, and still didn't like them. And then once more later, still couldn't take it, and deleted them all.

I don't know. I just didn't "get it", and didn't understand the link with Floyd at all.

[XNASA]

55. I think the RH/PF comparison is bogus myself.

Perhaps some parallels can be drawn between the Barrett era PF and RH, but certainly not the post-Syd stuff (which I myself can't tolerate).

I remember buying the second RH disc, "The Bends", and putting it on the shelf after a couple of listens, unimpressed.

Then I listened to "OK Computer" after seeing the video to Paranoid Android and fell in love with it. After revisiting "The Bends" I found I enjoyed that much more.

Shortly thereafter I saw them live and was hooked.

Besides, how can't you not like a band that called their latest offering, "Hail to the Thief"???

[Screaming Lord Byron]

57. I prefer Radiohead to Pink Floyd myself,

particularly post 1973 Floyd.

[RandomKoolzip]

79. I don't see the connection.

Zappa is a composer in the eary-twentieth century tradition of Stravinsky who also worked in rock and roll...he synthesized doo-wop, funk, heavy metal, free jazz, reggae, extended guitar solos and improvisation with comedy, satire, sociology, metaphysics and scatology. He could jam his ass off on guitar. And he was alays funny as all hell.

Radiohead are a klatch of pale English fops with no sense of humor whose every song employs the same gimmick: glacially paced soundscapes with distant but soaring ulualted whole notes sung on top. There is little or no diversity in their grey sound, they communicate almost nothing, and are obsessed with alienation, both internally and toward their audience. Lately they have been incorporating synths and samplers in an effort to keep up with the IDM movement, a move which has depleted their fanbase.

What's the connection?

Radiohead are big Zappa fans? Well, it doesn't show. And Phish are big My Bloody Valentine fans (seriously!) but sound nothing like them, either.

[MissMillie]

52. Lynard Skynard, Molly Hatchet and

Bob Seger (yes, I know he's a progressive, but I just don't care for his music)

The Who (just not my thing)

Kiss

[ElsewheresDaughter]

54. the rolling stones

[RandomKoolzip]

59. The Smiths.

Hated them the first time I heard them as a kid - In fact, I seriously thought it was a parody of whiny sobby New Wave singers like the guy from Spandau Ballet - and I still hate their music. Johnny Marr uses a delay pedal and Whoopty Shit, all of a sudden he's a guitar genius?

And don't even get me started on Morrissey....I don't write songs based on my journal entries because I'm smart enough to know nobody gives a shit. "Oh, I died tonight, I'm sad, my hairdresser is on fire and I'm hanging the DJ, and Oscar Wilde woof woof blah blah..."

Rock or get off the pot, you foppish eyebrow farmer!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

61. Yeah, I always thought 'good band - lousy singer'

[Whitacre D_WI]

93. "Why I like the Smiths," by Vince Whitacre

The first time I heard them, I hadn't yet heard any Morrissey solo albums. So I thought they were a joke.

Seriously. I thought "Meat Is Murder" was making fun of vegetarianism. I thought "There Is a Light that Never Goes Out" was a brilliant piece of parody. Come on, nothing with such a happy guitar sound could be serious!

Then I heard solo Morrissey. And I realized that he was being serious. Oh God.

But today, I still listen to them as a joke. A VERY FUNNY JOKE! Marr's jaunty licks combined with Morrissey's self-loathing drivel makes me laugh and laugh and laugh. I can't get enough of it:

"I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour,
but heaven knows I'm miserable now." -- Genius!

"What she said: I smoke because I'm hoping for an early death
and I neeeed to cliiiing to something" -- Bravura!

"Last night I dreamt that somebody loved me.
No hope, no harm, just another false alarm." -- Huzzah!

"Ooooh, Manchester, so much to answer for" -- Encore!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Funniest. Band. Ever.

[RandomKoolzip]

98. But they sound like shit.

They're not good enough to take seriously, and not bad enough to take as a parody for me. And even if I got an appreciation for them as a parody, there'd still be that "But they sound like shit!" factor to deal with.

And Johnny Marr sucks.

[Whitacre D_WI]

99. Well, Johnny Marr sucks compare to D. Boon and Frank Zappa,

like fersure. Nonetheless, I like him as a composer of happy pop music. And I do put Morrissey's lyrics into the "so bad it's good" camp.

But those lyrics are SOOOO bad! Like "Dear Mister Jesus" bad.

And "Dear Mister Jesus" is one of my favorite songs.

[sendero]

102. I got yer back...

... on that one. The "sensitive-male" thing can be taken too damn far!

Grow a pair Morrissey! Or at least put some socks in your underwear! :)

[curse10]

62. Pink fuckin' Floyd

Man, I hate that band!

[DS1]

63. I'll see your Pink Floyd and raise you a Grateful Dead

:puke:

[ProfessorGAC]

64. The Dead. That's Mine

Can't stand a thing about them. The fascination with those hacks eludes me completely. With the exception of Pigpen, not one of them could ever play a lick.
The Professor

[Screaming Lord Byron]

65. Yeah, the dead.

70. don't get mad!

can we really trust someone who Golfs?

[ProfessorGAC]

72. You Can Trust Me!!!

Trust me!! I wouldn't lie about being able to trust me! So, you can trust me! Honest! No, really!

Even so, Jerry and Bob never could play none!
The Professor

[Emboldened Chimp]

80. You've got to be kidding

Jerry couldn't play? Obviously you have no ears, or are tone deaf. Jerry was an incredibly talented and hard-working musician. The man could play circles around most other players.

[ProfessorGAC]

85. I Am Accomplished Musician

So, i'm not tone deaf. His playing was derivative, sloppy, and his tone was abrasive and barky.

His harmonic ideas were simpleminded and extraordinarily mainstream. If you have any questions about any of this, feel free to ask to be educated.
The Professor

[Emboldened Chimp]

89. I'm a musician, too

Sloppy I'll give you--but only some of the time, and later in his career. Derivative? Hardly. Simpleminded? Definitely not--his playing was steeped in too many traditions to be simpleminded (jazz, blue, bluegrass and rock all mixed together.) Mainstream? LOL! I don't care what you think about him or the Dead, but mainstream is the last thing they ever were.

I don't understand where you get the idea that his tone was abrasive and barky. I find it clear, smooth and flowing, almost like a Canonball Aderly solo.

BTW, educate me? Can you be any more pompous?

[ProfessorGAC]

105. Can I Be More Pompous? I Haven't Started Yet

Having differing influences blended badly does not make something out of the mainstream. Since rock is already an amalgam of several different styles, EVERYTHING is a blend of influences. That makes it mainstream. And playing the song longer than it needs to be doesn't remove the mainstream aspect of the basic structure. Besides, i never said anything about their songs being mainstream. I said his playing was mainstream. (aka, ordinary)

Secondly, his playing was almost entirely rooted in pentatonics. That's pretty simpleminded. There is little linearity in his playing, and he makes highly limited use of arpegiation, even when his playing is not linear. That's pretty simpeminded, too.

Thirdly, putting reverb on his guitar sound does not make it sound like smooth saxaphone playing. His tone has a shrill initial attack and an unpleasant buzz of even harmonics in the body. The initial shrill attack creates the barking tone and the even harmonics sound abrasive to me. It's pretty common with folks who use Fender amps, unless they really work the tone and get the right guitar. He sounds like a guy playing a Twin with the treble up too high.

Lastly, i believe it was you who started this. Not me! I was kidding around with another poster who chided me for being untrustworthy because i was a golfer. I don't think much of Jerry's playing so i took that extra shot, as a jibe. You then accused me of being tone deaf. You insulted me first! If you can't take the chill, don't dive into the water!
The Professor

[Rabrrrrrr]

88. Gotta disagree with you, Manco

I love the Dead, but let's face it - Jerry WAS sloppy, and we wasn't a virtuoso. He was a great player for the Dead's music, but I would never agree that he could "play circles around most other players". In a list of top 100 guitarists, I wouldn't put Jerry in there. In a list of top 100 psychadelic groovin' guitarists who make you feel like you're flying through space at warp 9, he'd be at the top.

I respect as a musician who could put out wonderful Dead-sounding music; but not so much respect him as a guitarist.

Maybe it was the heroin; maybe if he were sober, he could have played to his full potential, and perhaps you've heard him play at his full potential. But I didn't. Still love his playing, though. The sloppiness is what entrances me to his style.

[Emboldened Chimp]

91. I agree that he was sloppy

I said as much in another post--and the heroin definitely messed him up. However, he was a brilliant musician who played some of the most amazing music I've heard. I'd take him over Beck, Clapton or Page any day (especially Page, who was sloppier than anybody I've ever heard--including myself.)

I guess it's all subjective. I dig it.

96. I think you're starting to get at the issue

I was lucky enough to see the Dead in 77, 78 & 79. At that point they were really tight and despite long jams it didn't come across as noodling. Between 79 and 84 I saw them a few times and they were beginning to fall off. By 84 it was clearly discernible that something was not working. It wasn't public yet but later I found out that this is around the time Garcia got heavily into heroin. So the band stopped gelling. Makes me think of a Fripp quote where he said he didn't mind if the band (King Crimson)was on drugs as long as they were on the same drugs because otherwise it was impossible to organize anything related to time signatures. Seems to me this started to happen with the Dead. Funny thing is that around the time this happened with them is when they actually started getting popular and all this adulation grew up around them where they could do no wrong. I can remember when you could get tickets to the shows the day of the show. After around 83, they were always sold out ahead of time. The adulation even disgusted me who had been into them, so I'm not surprised that people that were never into them respond the way they do these days. Also once Garcia went into his diabetic coma, his playing was never the same again. Apparently he lost a lot of memory, only had muscle memory (and also developed really bad Carpal tunnel syndrome which made it painful to play with the fluidity he had had before)and he had to gradually relearn everything.
Regarding Weir, even the Dead didn't have a high opinion of his technique for a long time. They almost kicked him out of the band in the early years a couple of times because of this.
I wrote this in another thread once -- Lesh was classically trained, degree in composition before he joined the Dead, played trumpet in San Francisco or Oakland (can't remember which) Symphony when he was a teenager. He knew his stuff.

[Rabrrrrrr]

118. I was surprised at the sudden fame the Dead received, too

because I felt that the stuff they were doing when all of a sudden they were famous and radio hits was quite bad. What was that awful song, "Shades of gray" or something? I can't think of the name. Awful, and totally unDead-like.

When I think of the Dead, I think only of the Dead before the early 80s, which I love. I totally love my bootleg concerts. Incredible stuff. And unlike ProfessorGac, if I'm reading him correctly, I totally am into the long jam music - that's what I love about the Dead, and other bands like Yes, and Floyd, and other 60s and 70s psychadelic stuff, is the really long songs with the enxctended instrumental jam stuff. Give me more!!

But, the Dead were incredible only in the realm of jam music. I would never place in the realm of highly technical or exacting or brilliant musicologically. And that is neither an insult nor a compliment. The Dead's music is in a different - but compltely equal - realm to Yes, Stockhausen, and Zappa.

[Emboldened Chimp]

81. You probably like KISS

[ProfessorGAC]

86. No. Wrong Again

The Professor

[sendero]

103. Seriously...

... if you were as whacked out as they were could you play? :)

(This is a drug reference in case it is not clear)

[ProfessorGAC]

106. Charlie Parker Could

The Professor

108. ditto for

Miles.

...which gives me another chance to play... when Miles opened for the Dead at Fillmore, Lesh says they were standing around backstage watching him and going "we're not worthy, How are we supposed to go on stage after that????"

[sendero]

119. Touche'

Maybe its the variety of drugs.

I will go way, way out on a limb here and mention something I decided a couple years ago.

Of all the bands/musicians I like who messed with heroin, every single one of them did their best work while a slave to the junk.

I would never go so far as to say that the drugs "enhanced their creativity" or whatever, it could be a simple matter of "misery breeds good art", but I've noticed it over and over and find it interesting. Actually, I find it a bit spooky.

This observation is not intended to:

1) condone heroin use in any way
2) insinuate that if you are a musician, getting messed up on it will make you better. it could just as easily make you dead, as it is known to do.

[curse10]

84. Oooh! The Dead! I agree!

fuck the Dead and their damn hippie music!

[Cat Atomic]

66. Smashing Pumpkins and Live

They both really bug the shit out of me for some reason.

*edit* Added Smashing Pumpkins

*edit* Oh crap- forgot one- but it's worth it's own post so...

[Screaming Lord Byron]

67. Live? - god, yeah.

[ProfessorGAC]

68. Pumpkins Yeah. Live, I Like

But, if i hear Billy's whiny voice on another record, i'll scream.
The Professor

[Cat Atomic]

69. CREED!!!!

[sendero]

104. no kidding..

... and after seeing Scott Stapp on Celebrity Poker, I can assure everyone that the rumors that he is an asswipe are well founded :)

[Draven]

77. Any bands from the '80s and today's top 40 bands...

including boy bands and any other of that whiny shit.

[adriennel]

82. Bob Seager

never liked him and since he's from MI they play him all the frickin' time on the radio! drives me crazy

[Zuni]

83. Phish, Dead, almost all Rap and hip hop, most non british euro-garbage

I cannot see how all this stuff got so popular. Give me some Otis redding, some Muddy waters or even some Black Sabbath (which unfortunately is one of the most hated bands on this thread, but I love 'em)

[Fleshdancer]

87. Hootie and the Blow Fish and...

I'll probably get flamed for this, but I never liked Bruce Springsteen either.

I also don't like Rod Stewart. He sounds as ugly as he looks.

[bobthedrummer]

90. KISS, Boston, Grateful Dead, Black Sabbath, Wings, the majority of Rap,

and late 70's early 80's corporate stadium rock acts-many already mentioned.
Still can find one or two fairly good tunes by all these folks that I really can't stand to hear-music is like that, the best bands are usually playing at your local club anyway--support them!

[MrSlayer]

92. Red Hot Chili Peppers, Creed, Live, Foo Fighters, Korn, Limp Bizkit......

Almost everyone from the 90's and today absolutely suck.

[phillybri]

110. Nirvana and Pearl Jam....

THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!

[ronnykmarshall]

113. Huey Lewis and the News.

:puke:

[jpgray]

114. How can anybody hate the Beach Boys?

There are songs in there you'll like; odds are you just haven't heard 'em. Like the Beatles, I think there is something in the Beach Boys' catalogue for everyone.

[mlawson]

115. Eagles, The Band, Marshal Tucker, Pure prairie League, Lynyard Skyn

yard, Fleetwood Mac (with Stevie Nicks), Stevie Wonder, plus

any top 40 from NOW, especially Linkin Park and Creed.

And Matchbox 20, 3 Doors Down, and all that whiny ass shit.

[Rabrrrrrr]

117. Ooh, Stevie Wonder, good choice

While I don't discount that his musical skills are actually really quite, I just plain old dislike his style of music. Always have, always will.

I'll always consider him a very fine musician. He's just a pedantic and uninteresting song composer.

I bet he would have been incredible if he'd teamed up with someone like Bowie or Robert Fripp, or even David Gilmore, and if he didn't always try to do that weird 70s easy-listening kinda-funk-kinda-not "thing" he did.

[Zomby Woof]

116. screw these hate threads

But if someone is too stupid to spell Lynyrd Skynyrd correctly, then they are too stupid to know good music. :nuke:

[Blue-Jay]

120. Who?

Wasn't that the kid that got ptomaine poisoning last night after dinner?

[neebob]

121. Hootie & the Blowfish

and Dave Mathews ... ugh! Sorry. I don't hate the Dave Mathews Band as much as Hootie, though. I really, really hate Hootie. Oh, and Blues Traveler and Creed. Blech! And Nickelback - do they have enough albums to qualify?

[shanti]

123. bread, chicago

yecchhhhh! elevator music! :thumbsdown: