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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 06:25 PM
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What are the Great Lakes like during Winter?
Cold obviously...but besides that?

I flew over them recently and thought they were spectacular, especially from that height. And large swaths of ice covering these ocean sized lakes (or at least parts)

So on the ground level, what are they like?
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 06:29 PM
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1. Do you mean the lakes themselves, or the land around them?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 06:30 PM
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2. Both
I'm assuming there be some wicked ice fishin on them thar lakes...
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 06:43 PM
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3. I think most ice fishing is done on the smaller inland lakes
Not much of an ice fisherman myself, so I don't really know. As to how the water is, just ask the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

You will get a lot of lake effect snow off the lakes in the winter. When it's cold and the wind is coming off the lakes, it can be pretty brutal. I used to live in Milwaukee, and when you're on the shore and looking out over Lake Michegan, it can seem like you're looking at the Siberian landscape.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 07:41 PM
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8. They do ice fish on Lake Erie. Every year there are rescues
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 07:50 PM by OurVotesCount-Ohio
when the winds come and blow the ice apart and carry people away from shore.

There's at least a few of those each year.

edited to add link:

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?s=6067634

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?s=6146801


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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 06:46 PM
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4. Three words: Lake Effect Snow
:scared:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 07:31 PM
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7. Like YOU know anything about that - dufus!
signed,

Madrone (in disguise)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 07:59 PM
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12. I see the pictures!
I'm skeered. ;)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:27 PM
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14. Don't worry.
I'll protect you. ;)

signed,

Madrone (in disguise)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:28 PM
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15. That makes it all worthwhile.
:7
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:02 PM
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18. You don't even know what snow looks like, looser. I'm series!11!
Lake Effect Snow is HUGH!1!!!1!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:09 PM
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21. Yeah, I only know FIB snow.
Downstate FIB snow at that.
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 06:48 PM
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5. There wouldn't be any ice fishing
It's never cold enough, long enough for these lakes to freeze over.
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 06:56 PM
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6. Here's a pic
of Lake Michigan that I took last March.


Yes, ice fishing is done on the inland lakes. Lake Winnebago just finished it's sturgeon season.

http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 07:42 PM
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9. Like this -- at the tip of Lake Ontario
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:06 PM
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19. How deep is that snow now?
If we get over 6 INCHES here, our power goes off and every thing shuts down.
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:20 PM
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22. I don't live in Oswego
I'm in the Rochester area, so I'm not sure how much of the 6 - 7' are left. I saw a picture today of Rte 11, which runs north from Oswego to Watertown and I've never seen anything like it. The snow was so high on the sides of the road -- it had to be 30 - 40 feet. It looked like a tunnel cut through the snow. I've looked for the picture on the internet, but haven't found it.
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:22 PM
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23. Well, thanks.
What if it gets warm there all of a sudden? Could happen soon, it's March after all.

Or maybe I am thinking about March in NC...
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:36 PM
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24. It was around 35, today.
So we haven't seen a significant warm up just yet. I do believe that there could be some localized flooding when all that snow melts. If it happens fast and if it's compounded with spring rains.

I saw a news broadcast that showed this place in Oswego called the snow dump. It's where they bring all the truckloads of snow that they have removed from the streets. It is not expected to completely melt before August.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 07:53 PM
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10. It's not "good" ice.
There is a lot of wave movement, the ice never really forms solidly. It's cold and grey.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 07:56 PM
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11. They are beautiful but in a different way from the summer.
In the summer the sand can get incredibly hot to walk on to get to "your" spot. In the winter, the sand will whip into your face, clothes and shoes on a windy day. In the summer the water can be placid or testy or just plain rough. People like it anyway they can get it. Sometimes in the summer the storms that brew out of nowhere are stunning. In the winter the storms can be like giant brooding beasts that just stand over the coast and piss out snow. Or they can be horrendous, huge waves that pile ice upon ice at the shoreline. Naturally the lakes have what appears to be serene calm days when nothing much is happening but that can change in less than an hour.

Every year some fool thinks that the lakes are forgiving and will walk out onto the piers, slip, fall into the water and be dead in short order. No mercy. Or some will assume that the mountains of frozen waves that can extend out from shore for a 1/4 mile or more are safe to walk on. Little do they realize that the shoreline ice mounds will move, people do step into space and also drown/freeze to death.

So I guess you could say that the lakes are a little like a beautiful but dangerous liaision.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:16 PM
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13. They're only so so in winter.
Not bad in spring.
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:30 PM
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16. They are awe-inspiring
Not as friendly as in the summer but beautiful and majestic just the same. Frozen waves, ice stretching out to the waterline; just gorgeous.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:00 PM
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17. Frozen solid
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 09:01 PM by KamaAina
Years ago, I worked in Chicago, in the area that would now be called "River North" but at the time was just "way too far east of Michigan Ave." My office/mag tape archive (told you it was years ago), had a partial view of Lake Michigan. Which was nice. Until the lake froze over. For the rest of the winter, it was like being on Ice Station Zebra. :scared:

edit; punctuation
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:09 PM
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20. Cleveland (Erie): windy, cold and overcast.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:36 PM
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25. Nature at its best and worst.
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 10:05 PM by btmlndfrmr
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:48 PM
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26. Eerily beautiful
Or should I say Ontarioly beautiful? :rofl:
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:08 PM
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27. Majestic

Massive ice sheets piling up against the shore and 20 foot high snow drifts.

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erinlough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:11 PM
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28. Beautiful and dangerous
mostly they are deserving of great respect. I have lived next to Lake Michigan all my life and I have sailed and enjoyed these waters every summer. In my area no one would fish on the shores of Lake Michigan it is just too dangerous, the ice shifts constantly.

In the summer We have a swift and dangerous undertow which can take you out to deep cold water in the blink of an eye. People do fish for salmon in the spring but it too is a dangerous pass time because the water stays just above freezing late into the spring. We still do it, but you make sure you have a good boat.

I have been in visual sight of a pier fishing and saw a storm coming. We barely made it to the pier heads in time to get in, the waves went from flat to 8 feet at the channel mouth.

All and all I would never want to live anywhere else, and I can't fathom why anyone would want to live away from the water. The only thing that would make this area better would be mountains. I love the mountains.
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CharmCity Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:25 PM
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29. Gray on gray. Except...
when it's sunny. Then the sky is deep blue and the snow is sparkling white.
Sometimes, you don't see pavement for weeks.
When it warms up, the snow turns brown. The streets crack. Lots of potholes.

People are covered in layers of clothes for months.

I used to x-country ski across the bay in Lake Erie -- very cool. Solid, flat ice for miles, punctuated occasionally with little huts usually containing one or two very drunk ice fishermen. The holes they drill are very small, about six inches in diameter.

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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:55 PM
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30. I haven't been to Lake Michigan in a few years...
Or in the winter but I do remember when I was little how my dad took me and my sister out to see it in the winter. We all walked on the frozen ice. I do remember it being very beautiful.

Blue
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:13 PM
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31. Up here in da UP
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 11:35 PM by utopiansecretagent
on Lake Superior we just got about 2 foot of snow over the last 2 days. Snowed in.

Blizzard/Whiteout conditions. 4-6 foot drifts covering the road. Stuck snow plows. Snowmobiler's wet dream (don't forget to bring yer flask 'o brandy, either).

Ice shanty "villages" (for fishing) out in the smaller inlets/bays. Most of the Great Lakes don't completely freeze over due to currents/waves, but the bays and inlets freeze enough that some brave (or stupid) folk drive their pickups out on the ice to get to their shanties. I think I heard somewheres that the Lakes combined take about 5-6 trucks a year due to this. That's not mentioning snowmobilers who venture too far on the thin ice.

Marquette (Northern Michigan University - Go Huskies!) just had their annual version of the Iditarod, the UP 200 (240 miles) last month.

Michigan Tech University in Houghton had their annual snow sculpture contest, too.

It's been hovering around 20 degrees F lately, but last month it was -20 for several weeks.

That's winter here.

Snow, snow and snow.

And more snow.

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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:16 PM
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32. Fucking cold.
what else do you want to know?
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