How do you get hard water deposits off your dishes?

[XemaSab]

/most boring post ever

[Random_Australian]

1. MOST BORING POST? HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT!

Ok, lets think about this problem.

First question: Are you talking about the effect you get when you have been using soap/detergent in hard water, and the residue left on the dishes?

P.S. I think this is awesomely interesting! No-one had better steal my damn thunder - you hear that DA?

[Random_Australian]

2. Answer already XemaSab! Don't leave a lad in suspense!

[Random_Australian]

3. That's it. I'm starting a one man thread hijack until Xema returns!

[Random_Australian]

4. Well, perhaps with the next post.

[Random_Australian]

5. Hmph. You've not the guts.

[Random_Australian]

6. Perhaps we should assume an answer in the affirmative?

[Random_Australian]

7. Yep. Ok Xema, here is what is happening. Hard water is hard because Mg and Ca form solids that are

[Random_Australian]

8. insoluble in water. However, it is a little difficult to undo this process.

[XemaSab]

9. I know what causes hard water

[XemaSab]

10. I blame the local lithology

[XemaSab]

11. as well as Ronald Reagan and Michael Jackson

[XemaSab]

13. but don't leave me in suspense here

[XemaSab]

14. How do you undo it?

[Random_Australian]

17. So it is indeed the soap scum, rather than the salt deposit (scale)?

[XemaSab]

21. It's scale, not soap scum

[XemaSab]

22. If it was soap scum I wouldn't be blaming MJ and Reagan

[Random_Australian]

24. Ok then, forget the baking soda and just vinegar the stuff.

White vinegar, of course.

For small buildups. If this does not work, just say so and I will tell you or some more 'persuasive' chemicals.

[XemaSab]

27. Word

[Random_Australian]

29. Free assocition about 'Word"? Sure!

[Random_Australian]

Microsoft Works

[Random_Australian]

31. Oxymoron

[Random_Australian]

34. Mensa. Men are dumb, I don't care what those stupid feminists say.

[Random_Australian]

36. Whatever, meatbreath marxist.

[Random_Australian]

37. Oh yeah? I still say that people who live in states with 3 or more vowels in the name, SUCK!

[XemaSab]

38. Yeah, whatever Mr NSW

[Random_Australian]

40. Ryyl Wales to you. That has only 2.

[XemaSab]

42. Oz only has states because they want to be like the US

:eyes:

[Random_Australian]

44. The only similarity that we have is that both of our euro populations loathed Britain.

We got first pick, a couple of hundred years after you.

[XemaSab]

46. You're wannabes... you don't even have REAL hard water

[XemaSab]

47. No, but seriously, I really want to go down there

:D

Oz envy, ya know.

[Random_Australian]

48. Oh yeah? AT LEAST WE HAVE REAL BEER!

:D

Flamewar time! :rofl:

[XemaSab]

49. I just had a Red Nectar

http://www.nectarales.com/

Good stuff.

[Random_Australian]

50. Probably, but that is hardly controversial. How about I say Americans eat buffalo? Whole?

[XemaSab]

51. I saw some ground buffalo in the grocery store today

It's YUMMAH! :9

At least we don't eat kangaroo. :eyes:

[Random_Australian]

52. I saw some air buffalo, so there! And we only eat kangaroos after we ride them to school.

At least we don't have the famous baptists' logic:

Logically, hurricanes are caused by:
a) A spiral of warm air rising and cool air falling
b) People holding a Mardi Gras for the 29364th city-time. (And at no other time, no other Mardi Gras)

So there! All Americans think like that!

:P ;)

[XemaSab]

53. It's true

[Random_Australian]

54. And you put coca-cola on your popcorn! As evidenced by that smilie!

And you're all naïve!

[XemaSab]

55. How are we naive?

:shrug:

[Random_Australian]

57. It was irony, because I said that the smile had coca-cola popcorn.

Sp, how are you? Got anything special happening this week?

[XemaSab]

58. Eh, I've got work going on

Tomorrow I need to go check some swallow nests, make some graphs, and generally Take Care Of Business.

What have you got going on? :shrug:

[Random_Australian]

59. First week of uni! (Second year) Awesomely cool, though I need to

touch up on my math, especially my trig.

How about the weekend? Still going to dump atheism into the NY water supply?

[XemaSab]

60. What's your major subject?

This weekend I have no plans so far... I am trying to save money to go to Florida at the end of next month for birding.
:woohoo:

I thought about going out to the Channel Islands today but decided I needed to be responsible and save the cashola. :P

What are you doing on the weekend?

[Random_Australian]

61. You'll be blown away with the precise nature of my answers.

1) I don't have one yet. I don't know what I will major in, but I hope a double major in physics and chemistry can be done.

2) What's a cashola?

3) I don't know - I think I will..... actually, I plain don't know.

This might be goodnight. Just in case, goodnight and lovely dreams!

[XemaSab]

62. Cashola = money

:D

Physics and chemistry, that's hardcore. Sounds like a party though. :D

[Random_Australian]

63. It is, sort of. Some of the chemicals freak the freak out of me though.

Not so much the equations of physics! :rofl:

[XemaSab]

64. Chemicals are fun

:D

My company does site remediation for contaminants. It's good times. :D

[Random_Australian]

65. Uh, some chemicals are not fun. Pyridine springs to mind.

So does oleum.

At least we don't handle HF or COCl !

[XemaSab]

66. There's nothing quite like walking into the bathroom

and seeing one of your colleagues changing. While she's stacking her dirty clothes on the counter, she happens to mention that she's changing out of the clothes because they have PCB's on them.

Good times. :D

[XemaSab]

67. ps I am going to sleep now

Good night! :hi:

[Random_Australian]

68. Goodnight!

[Random_Australian]

15. (This is assuming that this is what you are talking about, rather than CaCO3 buildup)

[XemaSab]

16. I'm guessing it's carbonates of some sort

[Random_Australian]

18. You mean scale? Not soap scum then?

[Random_Australian]

19. Still, I say the old paste of vinegar and baking soda should do ok.

I dunno what ratio to mix it in, though.

[XemaSab]

20. Vinegar and baking soda cleans EVERYTHING

[Random_Australian]

23. It doesn't clean oleum. In fact, oleum will pull them atom-from-atom.

Nutso stuff, that.

[XemaSab]

28. Righton.

[XemaSab]

30. They didn't cover that in soil chemistry

[Random_Australian]

32. Because they're a buch of pyridine avoiding bass-snorters.

And because oleum is from industrial chemistry.

[Random_Australian]

35. And because they couldn't eat cow if it was made of steel.

[Random_Australian]

56. But they could eat steel if it was made of cow.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

12. I visit this site:

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/fcs/housing/pubs/fcs397.html

[Random_Australian]

26. Gasp! You're one of THEM!

:)

Edit: You should be a luddite like me. Check it out - www.ludditesworld.com

[GoddessOfGuinness]

69. Your link isn't working for me...

Mr GoG is a bit of a luddite. I have to tell him to answer his email every few months, so he doesn't lose his box. And he got a pay-as-you-go cellphone for Xmas which he has yet to activate.

:D

[Elidor]

25. Reggae music

Played loud enough to thump the water off the dishes

[Random_Australian]

33. You misread the question. There are not 'water' deposits per se,

THERE ARE ORANGE FLYING PENCILS OF DOOM AFTER XEMASAB! RUN! RUN!

[XemaSab]

39. Also Reggae sucks

[Random_Australian]

41. And to be loud enough to shake water off dishes, you would need speakers

made out of an exploding hippapotamus.

[XemaSab]

43. I'm one step ahead of you

http://www.perp.com/whale/video.html

[Random_Australian]

45. I'm one million steps ahead of bieng steps ahead of you.

http://www.allaboutscience.org/big-bang-theory-video.htm

[LSK]

70. by buying new dishes?

:shrug: